xssve -> RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it in their Pants? (6/28/2011 11:13:44 PM)
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Let's start at the beginning. Rape is not a "success[ful] reproduction strategy". It has very little to do with reproduction - only in those horrible cases where the woman becomes pregnant after being raped are they linked. This might occur in a tiny minority of rapes - whether the number is even statistically significant is unclear. The connection is tenuous. As neither party has planned or seeks the pregnancy how it can be described as a "strategy" is beyond me. The level of objectification of women required before one can conceive of rape in these terms is frightening. To murmur positive comments about such brutality speaks for itself. The entire notion is truly sick perverse and obscene. The vast majority of men don't commit rape. A tiny number of women commit rapes. There is nothing inherent in masculinity or male biology that causes rape. So please stop trying to dress this putrid trash up in the language of science - the only 'science' that might be relevant here is the grotesque kind performed by Mengele in the death camps. This is doing an enormous disservice, it is insulting to both males and science. Rape is crime of violence. Period. Pretty speech, but you think a guy that would rape a woman really cares what your opinion of him is? It's sort of implicit that he doesn't give a shit what you think, no? Does it result in pregnancy or not? I've seen a lot of violence, a lot fights between men, I can't recall even one that ended in rape - probably happens in prison frequently, but then there are no women there. It's all sex, people who have sex reproduce, people who reproduce pass on the traits that led them to reproduce, and the trait is passed on exponentially - it's how natural selection works. If it results in pregnancy, it's a reproduction strategy, regardless of how you feel about it, how violent or horrible it is. Right an wrong have nothing to do with it as a biological strategy, "rape as violence" is a political meme, not a scientific theory - might have something to do with it, but the emotional states of either rapist or victim have nothing to do with the biology of reproduction in the basic, biological sense - as for planning, when has that ever been an obstacle to reproduction? Go back and read my previous post in this thread on the subject, I covered all this at length. It's r, not K strategy, and r strategies are all about quantity over quality, it's not the most successful strategy by a long shot, it's a pretty piss poor one, with a few notable exceptions, but it's too stable statistically, across all cultures and demographics, to not have some biological basis. I don't "condone it" by a long shot, I had a good friend raped and killed, another barely survived, but it happens, acknowledging that is not the same as condoning it - believe me, if they ever let him loose, I'll personally pop his fucking grape as a service to humanity, Jesus can forgive him - but people have been calling it "awful" and worse for centuries, doesn't seem to have been a very effective strategy for curbing it. If what you're doing isn't working, and then you might consider doing something else - it's hard to fight phantoms, and sacrificing the occasional goat, while it might make you feel better, is not known to be very effective either.
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