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because every guy frequenting a prostitute is one guy who isn't molesting his or someone else child - it is a victimless crime, how she got to be a prostitute is not directly the fault of the John, it's a straightforward transaction, a
I saw the other replies to this post, but I have to address this myself...
What you are saying is because some guy didn't have sex with his own daughter, or his neighbor's daughter, it is okay for him to go and have sex with a stranger's daughter... that is what you are talking about, since basically you have stated (probably correctly) that men want to pay to have sex with young teenagers... this is something that they should not be arrested for, even though if they had sex with their own child, or a neighbor's child they would be not only arrested, but facing life as a registered sex offender...
This is the attitude that shows that this country truly needs to wake up and realize that their attitudes towards women are not any better than any other region of the world. We have MBMN earlier not acknowledging that these are VERY often kids selling sex on the street, coerced by pimps, and then you saying it is better to use a strangers kid for sex... as long as you aren't using your own...
Truly flabbergasting 
Eh? I wasn't talking about teenagers, or underage prostitutes, I was talking about a hypothetically decriminalized prostitute, which solution I consider a better alternative to the proposed solution I was addressing there, which was to arrest the Johns.
To avoid confusion I'll rephrase: there have been exactly Two solutions proposed here, either legalize prostitution or crack down on Johns - if there are adult women (or men) available, then there is far less incentive to violate someones rights, no?
If there is no legal alternative, then people will choose the illegal one, and in for a penny, in for a pound, once having broken the law, it often makes very little difference if you compound it, you've already crossed the line. It works just exactly like the drug trade: if they can give you 20 years for dealing ganj, you might as well move horse 'cause the risk is the same, but the profit margins are much higher.
Absolutely, there are always going to be men who will deliberately seek out underage girls, but the current situation feeds that because it's easier to coerce underage girls, as more become available, prices fall, supply and demand, increasing demand for more girls, i.e., as prices fall, volume increases, more girls are coerced, etc., etc.
All the Johns know is, "there's a girl that will fuck all of us for $100" nobody asks a pro for her ID. A.) you cannot tell a human trafficking victim from a consensual prostitute by looking at them, B.) you pay for sex, not to hear her life story, that's the business, and she wouldn't tell you if you asked.
If they are underaged, prosecute 'em, by all means, what I'm saying is that most of these guys just want some crazy sex, and they're going to get it however they can. Back in the 80's it was all coke sluts and date rape, girls would anything for a couple of lines, you could get roofies anywhere.
I'm not that lame, I got game, believe it or not, but I worked in bars and shit, I knew what was going down, those were the times.
You know, guys who hit the pros don't go taxi driver all that often, they want a date, and it's nice to dream but it's been going on for Thousands of years, all over the world, it isn't going to just magically change overnight, you're gonna have to come up with practical solutions, not wishful thinking.
And when it comes to that, why do women need drugs and alcohols to lower their inhibitions? Wouldn't be because they've had those inhibitions beaten into their heads to begin with?
Get rid of the inhibitions, nobody needs drugs or alcohol - teenagers in monogamous sexual relationships have dramatically lower incidence of other at risk behaviors, drug and alcohol abuse, unprotected sex, promiscuity, etc., it's a fact.
< Message edited by xssve -- 5/18/2011 9:23:15 PM >
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