xssve
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I can tell you it's going to go from bad to worse, it's an economic thing: desperate times make desperate people.
Indeed.
I can't say I'm convinced by the alleged economic origins though - Neanderthals ceased being desperate when they became extinct many millennia ago. Nonetheless, I can understand your sense of desperation. Many people mistakenly feel that resistance to change is natural.
The good news is that it's a malady that some concentrated informed thinking by an open mind will cure .....
I'm sure you're horribly wise, but this is still wishfull thinking - it's a statistical thing, and it's largely stress related, homes fall part, parents argue and divorce, dreams die. Test scores begin to fall and crime rates begin to rise roughly Three years after a recession sets in.
The crime rate here, in the Eighties, rose to appealing levels, the murder rate broke the previous record set during the Great Depression, kids murdered each other over basketball shoes and Leather Jackets.
Expectations of the future and a pehenomena called perception of inequality have a lot to do with it - didn't help that the Eighties were when all the rules changed, it was no longer enough to just "work hard", and we began shifting into the Two tiered economy, and you had people living on the street and egregious displays of "conspicuous consumption" side by side - it's like rubbing salt in an open wound - you will get a reaction formation. It's never wise to tease a cornered animal, if you don't give them a back way out, they'll go through you.
The young typically have the hardest time with this, they haven't experienced economic cycles, they don't think very far ahead, they mostly accept what they see immediately as reality, again, lacking the experience to put it into perspective, and they adapt to what they see.
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You’ll probably find it saves an awful lot of time if you accept that a need doesn’t equate to an entitlement in this area, and that this ‘need’ is neither paramount over the rights or humanity of others, nor mandated by biology. Whether by accident or design, that is the underlying position conveyed by your posts to me.
I don't have a position, not the way you perceive, this is just human behavior: and its predictable, but only in a rough statistical way. The incidence of homosexuality is roughly stable for instance, and has probably been stable for thousands if not millions of years, it has remained stable in spite of repeated attempts to eradicate it, of which there have been many - it's an adaptation, a relatively benign one, it serves or served some adaptive purpose, it's biology, it's not amenable to modification by social means.
Rape, I think you'll find is also a remarkabley stable statistic, across cultures, but it can go up or down depending on the attitudes of a particular culture. Psychopathy is an adaptation, and it has well known psychological and physiological triggers, i.e., it too probably has a stable incidence, but can rise and fall depending on conditions, and it's a long term problem, as it may be heritable.
Some things never change is what I'm telling you, it's part of the behavioral diversity of humans, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it, except not actively encourage it to spread, and try to channel the less desirable adaptations into more productive areas.
< Message edited by xssve -- 5/19/2011 7:46:30 AM >
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