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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 1:19:39 AM   
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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 1:22:43 AM   
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I know my body and my mental health.  I'm on close terms with both.  I know that if i get a cold, within 3 days it'll be bronchitis and then I can head to the doctor's for antibiotics.  I wait or they don't believe me until I show back up a few days later.  I did the same with naproxen, found out the hard way when I took one and my throat closed, I couldn't breathe and I was covered in a rash.  Had to call an ambulance for that one.  I can tell when a migraine's coming on and I know the difference between that and sinus infections.
I know when I'm going into a dark hole,  when I'm going to have an anxiety attack, when I'm too stressed.  I know I'll be medicated for the rest of my life, my brain's wired differently and doesn't fire on all cylinders if you will.  Might explain that I'm halfway around the bend but haven't gone the full way.  I'm also that most special of nuts, the honey-roasted pecan.


I'm more of a generic salted peanut, Poohbear....but I so understand what you're saying!  It is so frustrating when I go to the doctor's office, tell them what is wrong with me and they just refuse to believe that I know more than they do about my body.  They may have done 8 years of med school, but I've had this beat up body for 50 years..I know what makes it tick and tock, and when the springs and cogs are loose!

And yep, I'll take maintenance meds too....for depression and my thyroid and diabetes.  I'll never give up my meds for the depression......the person I was without them versus the person I am with them runs along the lines of Jekyll and Hyde....literally!  I refuse to go back to that torture.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:06:04 AM   
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Although I will agree that an awful lot of females seem to have mental issues that the BRAG about. Way more than I recall as a child. It is as though you cannot be one of the 'cool kids' without a script from your shrink.


I dunno, maybe it is more accepted now and carries less of a stigma? For our parents and grandparents depression was something that honest hard work cured... I agree it's much more en vogue now to have something odd, though I had to laugh when I told somebody I can't have hazelnuts, they asked me if I am sure and I am not imagining it - a bit hard to imagine that your throat swells up so much that you actually can't breathe anymore... I mean the last time I imagined it, I woke up with a tube down my neck - wish I could forget that bit of my imagination...

Maybe I'm a bit of a cynic, but a close friend of mine is suffering from serious PTSD, yet won't admit it as it's not something "a man" has, I rather have a bunch of bimbos bragging about their mental problems if that means some people who actually need help are getting it...



Naw. Depression has become too mainstream. It seems that being bi-polar is the cool thing now. As I recall, about ten or eleven years ago it was 'border-line personality disorder' that was cool.

I am sure that the number of folks diagnosed is up. Doctor's are getting more specialized and better at doing the diagnoses, tests are getting better, all of that. Much like autism being on the rise.

My point had more to do with the frequency of people telling you about it. Especially females. At least in my experience. Ladies that I am only going to deal with a couple of times or less have informed me of their medical issues. It is crazy.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:15:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys

Hey you guys got some right...I'll be damn. Medical degrees here we come.



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That's amazing. I say we do away with doctors all together.


What in the world. Why does this bother you? Is your solution that we should just all drop by the docs office once a week for a check-up? We should stop all those silly waiting periods for colds and such to be over and make a doctor's appointment right away? Or better yet, use the ER? Do you think that a female that has had a UTI in her life cannot diagnose when she has one again?

The next time that you get a paper cut, you had better head to the ER to make sure that it gets the band-aid put on properly.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:20:23 AM   
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I'm fairly certain that I have thyroid issues, but the only time I've been able to have any blood work done the reports came back right down the middle normal. Or at least that's what I was told. I did make sure to get the actual numbers for the different things tested and checked myself to see if that was, in fact, normal. Despite those tests, I'm not convinced that I DON'T have thyroid problems. I know too many people who fought with their doctors for years, sometimes decades, before testing proved them right, and I have too many of the symptoms associated with hypothyroidism for me to dismiss it as just my imagination. This self diagnosis I have not attempted to treat, aside from diet and exercise (which has only a limited effect), as it can be at least as dangerous to attempt to self medicate as it is to go without any medication.

The other thing is some form of chronic depression. I COULD get diagnosed, probably quite easily, and I've been coping with this since my earliest memories of childhood. But I don't want to be professionally medicated for this one, as most of the people I've known who were on prescribed anti depressives were... happy zombies. No. Not for me. I have found one thing that seems to work fairly well to keep me stable and functional without turning me into a zombie, and that's a low daily dose of St. Johnswort extract. The dose I use is low enough that it's entirely possible that the effect is a placebo effect, but it works, and that's the part that matters to me.

As for the rest... I don't suffer from insanity. I'm enjoying it quite a lot, thank you.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:23:00 AM   
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It does sound a bit strange if people are talking about mental issues to almost strangers, maybe that's a mental issue in itself...

Though most of the really good doctors will tell you to monitor yourself, if you got the feeling there is something wrong with you, there often is, they can only diagnose you regarding to what they consider the norm, unfortunately our bodies aren't machines and don't always work in quite so simple ways, a doc will run tests and see you for a brief moment of time, you live in your skin 24/7 and if something doesn't feel right, well, you might know before the doc does.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:25:59 AM   
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What in the world. Why does this bother you?

Surely you've self-diagnosed yourself with brain damage lately..Otherwise, why would you assume it bothered me? Maybe you should check yourself in, immediately.

Should I also assume that it bothers you that I make comments and posts? Use your noggin.


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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:31:12 AM   
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Go see an endocrinologist if you believe your thyroid is not working properly. Primaries will only go by the TSH.

I resent the characterization of people on SSRIs as happy zombies. Happy pills are the benzos; Xanax and Valium and that ilk. If on SSRIs and you haven't any energy, then you aren't on the right dosage. Not the fault of the meds, fault of the prescribing physician. Which is why you should be overseen by a psychiatrist or better yet a psychopharmacologist and not a primary.

I will say that I've had enough sinus infections over the years that I can feel it when it starts, which is always a day or two prior to the symptoms being severe enough that a nurse practitioner or PA will prescribe for it. At which point I simply tell them I'm not leaving till I see my doctor. He'll look at my chart, see I'm in three times a winter for these and give me the damned Bioxin.

And after a while, we got good at knowing when the horse had Lyme's and would tell the vet to take the titers and prescribe the doxy. If it happens enough, you recognize it.


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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 12:12:03 PM   
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DesFIP, that's what most MDs with a bit of a clue will say, that you know your own body and changes...

As for thyroid and endos, not that easy, what might be the norm for most people might not be alright for you and can cause depressions, period problems from such severe cramps that you are fainting to cysts and all other sorts of nice stuff, the docs have scales of what is "acceptable" with most people, if by some sort of weird accident of birth you might produce enough tyroid hormones but your body can't proceed with them, you fall through and you do need to poke and prod the docs to have a closer look, that is where self diagnosis comes in.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 12:36:23 PM   
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Doctors are the biggest pervs...

I had to have an appt. one morning because of pain on the right side.  They (the nurses were trying to call me to reschedule the appt)  when I arrive, one hand own the right side and crying.

I collapse right there on the spot.  The doctor on the phone said to get me there (hospital).  Luckily the hospital was next door to the office.  Got a room, disrobed and ultrasound about 30 minutes later.  When the tech did my gallbladder sound, they realize that I had stones & sludge.  Told them that I knew I was full of it.

Did the surgery that evening and back in my bed.  When they took the 'boots' off, I was in a cleaning mode.  I got so much relief...


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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 1:37:51 PM   
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I have said I was OCD a couple times, and the meds dr said it's anxiety not OCD, but I think it's OCD.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 6:23:37 PM   
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Mynx, I went thru the gamut of thyroid tests with several docs, and my numbers were always on the low side of normal.  Finally, I found a doc who didn't like the "feel" of it, and ordered an untrasound of my thyroid.  Lo and Behold, we discovered that I had a 3" goiter on the left lobe of my thyroid.  The reason it wasn't obvious before was that it was growing IN, not out as most goiters do.  They did a regular one and then came back and did one that showed up in color.  I take synthroid now.

For the record, thyroid issues in general, and in women specifically, are one of the most frequently undiagnosed conditions out there.  I don't usually recommend doctor shopping, but find one that will agree to the ultrasound.  Numbers don't mean squat.  My blood sugar alone has spiked at well over 350, and I've been walking, talking and upright at the time.  My dad's spiked at 510 after gall bladder surgery and all he wanted to do was go home.  The point is that in most people, sugar that high should have put them in a coma......it didn't for either my dad or me.  Sometimes, docs put too much emphasis on numbers instead of follow thru.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 6:34:11 PM   
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I can usually tell if I'm getting a sinus infection from the feeling in my ears and throat.  If I catch it soon enough, I can self medicate with Sudafed and Nyquil, and avoid an infectoin.  The trick is to keep the crap draining so it doesn't build up so the infection can take hold.  But sometimes, I would just wake up and *BANG* the infection was right there.  I'd go to the doc, get my penicillin, and in a few days, be fine again.

And I'm one of those who refer to my maintenance meds as "happy pills".  But they don't make me happy, they simply even out the chemical imblances caused by the lack of seritonin in my brain. My mom and sis take meds too, and it doesn't alter their moods in any particuliar manner, it just makes it easier to function.  For instance, in my case, I'd get angry.....I'm talking a serious hair trigger, and it didn't take much to make me go.  A slow computer, feedback in my ear thru the radio...the phone ringing, and I'd be yelling at the computer, throwing things at the monitors, slamming things on my desk. I wouldn't get angry at people, but I was always on the edge of just going postal.  That is no way to live.  On my meds, nothing bothers me....not anything mentioned above, not the stoopid people I interact with, all the petty little dramas of the workplace.  My co-workers who knew me before meds and then after meds will tell you that I am in a much better place on the meds.  There is absolutely no way in Hell I'll give them up.  Period. 

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 6:46:09 PM   
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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:10:48 PM   
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no but my daughter does this every single day. Everyday she has a new illness that she found on the internet. She drives me crazy with it.

My best friend does this...

She also does stuff like obsess on every little freckle, etc.

She has called me in the middle of the night (literally) because she was afraid she had breast cancer, because they biopsy her breasts which are really cystic. The first couple of times this happened I was concerned, but it happens all of the time because she has lumpy boobs. I told her finally.. "quit borrowing trouble, the doctors keep telling you they do it only to cover their ass, start believing them!"

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/22/2011 9:55:58 PM   
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I'm fairly certain that I have thyroid issues, but the only time I've been able to have any blood work done the reports came back right down the middle normal. Or at least that's what I was told. I did make sure to get the actual numbers for the different things tested and checked myself to see if that was, in fact, normal. Despite those tests, I'm not convinced that I DON'T have thyroid problems. I know too many people who fought with their doctors for years, sometimes decades, before testing proved them right, and I have too many of the symptoms associated with hypothyroidism for me to dismiss it as just my imagination. This self diagnosis I have not attempted to treat, aside from diet and exercise (which has only a limited effect), as it can be at least as dangerous to attempt to self medicate as it is to go without any medication.

The other thing is some form of chronic depression. I COULD get diagnosed, probably quite easily, and I've been coping with this since my earliest memories of childhood. But I don't want to be professionally medicated for this one, as most of the people I've known who were on prescribed anti depressives were... happy zombies. No. Not for me. I have found one thing that seems to work fairly well to keep me stable and functional without turning me into a zombie, and that's a low daily dose of St. Johnswort extract. The dose I use is low enough that it's entirely possible that the effect is a placebo effect, but it works, and that's the part that matters to me.

As for the rest... I don't suffer from insanity. I'm enjoying it quite a lot, thank you.


It's good the St Johnswort helps your depression. I tried it & it didn't do squat. In fact nothing helped me until a Dr put me on an anti-depressant in 1987 & I've been taking them ever since. Like Soul, I am a much better, happier person on them. I don't think anyone would describe me as a "happy zombie". I'm happy, yes but I am also energetic & passionate. I don't know that zombies feel too much passion.

On the other hand, if you do get treatment for a thyroid disorder, I'm assuming that you will take the pills they prescribe, right? So why not for the depression? Although, perhaps with thyroid treatment your depression will lessen or even go away completely.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/23/2011 12:03:26 PM   
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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/28/2011 9:06:11 AM   
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I am not one to run to my doctor for every small thing so when I went and saw her with a really vague sense of feeling unwell, as well as hard to explain tummy problems that I felt needed exploring she (thankfully) took me seriously and 6 months later, after a lot of tests over 70% of my liver was removed. 

I had been thinking it was my gall bladder but instead it was a liver tumour.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/28/2011 9:48:28 AM   
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So glad it worked out for you Wanders, it took them 2 yrs to diagnose my mom's bladder cancer and by then it was too late.   She passed away a year later even with chemo and radiation therapy.  Her damn GP took almost 2 yrs to send her to see a urologist.  My dad still won't let me go to any of his appts to see said GP because he knows I won't be able to keep my mouth shut.  Oopsie.

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RE: Have you ever self-diagnosed? What did you give yo... - 5/28/2011 9:52:54 AM   
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I'm fairly certain that I have thyroid issues, but the only time I've been able to have any blood work done the reports came back right down the middle normal. Or at least that's what I was told. I did make sure to get the actual numbers for the different things tested and checked myself to see if that was, in fact, normal. Despite those tests, I'm not convinced that I DON'T have thyroid problems. I know too many people who fought with their doctors for years, sometimes decades, before testing proved them right, and I have too many of the symptoms associated with hypothyroidism for me to dismiss it as just my imagination. This self diagnosis I have not attempted to treat, aside from diet and exercise (which has only a limited effect), as it can be at least as dangerous to attempt to self medicate as it is to go without any medication.

The other thing is some form of chronic depression. I COULD get diagnosed, probably quite easily, and I've been coping with this since my earliest memories of childhood. But I don't want to be professionally medicated for this one, as most of the people I've known who were on prescribed anti depressives were... happy zombies. No. Not for me. I have found one thing that seems to work fairly well to keep me stable and functional without turning me into a zombie, and that's a low daily dose of St. Johnswort extract. The dose I use is low enough that it's entirely possible that the effect is a placebo effect, but it works, and that's the part that matters to me.

As for the rest... I don't suffer from insanity. I'm enjoying it quite a lot, thank you.


"Normal" is a baseline... nothing more. Its like blood pressure or body temp or a heart rate... what is normal for you may not be "normal" according to the experts. My dads resting heart rate is 54, and he isnt an athlete. My moms TSH levels are all "normal". She finally found a Dr who would listen, and it took two years, but they realized that while he results were in the normal range, her ranges were falling and put her on meds.

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