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spanking properly - 5/12/2006 11:24:22 AM   
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Can all of you help me.  My mistress just wants to jump right in and spank with all her might, and cannot understand why I say it is too hard of  a spanking all the time.  Isn't there a step-by step increase or gentle-to hard approach which helps the person taking the spanking an ability to build up tolerance or deaden the feeling?
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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 11:33:03 AM   
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I can recommend a book if you feel brave enough to buy them for her as gifts or suggest them to her.

"The Compleat Spanker" by Lady Green from Greenery Press.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 11:46:58 AM   
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tammy jo I have that book it was only like a 20 page or so book.:)

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 12:04:07 PM   
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Have you tried talking with her and letting her know that you need an initial warm up before the spanking gets too intense? Let her know you arent objecting to hard spanking just that you need some form of lead in so that you can be ready for more, so that you can please her by being able to tolerate the pain in a more comfortable manner. Also have you set up any kind of safe words so that if things progress to quickly you can call a middle safe word so that she knows its too much to fast and can back down a bit..... If you havent spoken with her yet on this in full, I would like as just a general reminder to all to say that your partner cant read your mind. In order to get anywhere with anything the first thing you must do is communicate and be open and HONEST with them.
 
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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 12:04:44 PM   
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Twenty pages on spanking seems like more then enough to me?
Unfortuneatly for you, your Mistress has her techinique in place, it just doesn't "sit well" with you.

I can only suggest that you let her know your handle isn't "rawhide" and to break you in slowly.....Then Run!   Kevin


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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 12:08:47 PM   
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Well fastlane it's not the amount of pages I object to. It's often the price. It's like charging 5 bucks for a 2 buck item haha.  I am generaly frugal anyway* this last 6 months not counting*

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 1:22:47 PM   
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It is worst when you buy a book online and you cant see the thickness of it, I would open the packaging thinking “Ooooooo soon I can marvel at and delve into a literary world of spanking” and when you get it open you think “pffff is that it, I will read it when I have a spare 2 mins”.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 2:53:04 PM   
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Can all of you help me.  My mistress just wants to jump right in and spank with all her might, and cannot understand why I say it is too hard of  a spanking all the time.  Isn't there a step-by step increase or gentle-to hard approach which helps the person taking the spanking an ability to build up tolerance or deaden the feeling?


You would be correct. My personal suggestion would be speaking with her directly. Barring that I would check your local dungeon and see if there is a play night or demo that you might bring her too. Some ideas have to be planted and fertilized.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 3:31:30 PM   
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Isn't there a step-by step increase or gentle-to hard approach which helps the person taking the spanking an ability to build up tolerance or deaden the feeling?


There is, but nowhere is it written that she's required to follow that method.  If you're telling her you want a gradual buildup and she's still starting hard and heavy, it's probably because she simply wants to do it that way, particularly if she's a sadist.  She may well be enjoying the fact that you think it hurts too much, and if she's your owner, isn't it her right to do with you as she chooses? 
 
This may not be the popular opinion, but... since a spanking isn't likely to cause any permanent harm, I'd say suck it up. 

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 8:14:50 PM   
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I always do a warm up before laying into a hard spanking. In fact I do intervals of hard, softer, hard, softer to give him some time to recoop before the next set starts. Thats just how I do it and some may not like that. But a warm up is important I think. You don't just go out and run a mile without doing a warm up either

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RE: spanking properly - 5/12/2006 8:56:41 PM   
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Dear oyknee1, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Lass, there are many ways to spank to which, the passive or soft hand is kinder than a disciplinary hand.  I really hope that you negotiate with your Mistress.  It seems in your post, it is really something that you are not ready to take in her view of what is a step up or ladder increase.
 
I have a 16 page handout for those attending my workshop, that has anatomy education as well.  And, perhaps I can give some tid bits on what you can do as a slave to help with the impact, if anything else.
 
Here is an excerpt of my copyrighted work on spanking, that is given out in my workshop in spanking, paddling and caning.
 
[Excerpt]...
Positioning the slave is important to the delivery, the comfort or lack of comfort for the slave and the one who administers a spanking.
 
For those who are more “weighted” than most, the lap will not be comfortable for the dominant or slave. It is recommended they rest against a spanking horse. If one is not available, one may use pillows as to stack them under the slave’s hips as to make the bottom as north as possible and the crown of the buttock’s cheek the tip of the position. Arms of couches or love seats work well. Standing is an option however; when the slave leans, it will provide a more round target that will fit the hand better.
 
For those who have a lap and are able to go over a lap, there are several positions that can be done.
 
The classical English spanking over the knee has the individual across both legs, the slave’s hands grabbing the ankle of the dominant, as the spanks. At times, a dominant may have to use a stool as to keep their legs level and not have the slave slide off.
 
The modern English spanking position over the knee, is where the individual is over one leg of the dominant, to which the dominant takes his leg and ‘traps’ the slave’s legs under and the arm of the slave the furthest away from his body is placed behind their back and held in place.
 
The Classical English Caning position, although used for caning will work wonderful for spanking and paddling as well. By having a person stand, with legs apart and bent over, as to put their hands onto the seat of the chair to support and steady themselves, will allow a stronger hand or stroke to be applied to the slave’s buttocks. 
 
Standing Supported position, is where the slave stands, is either in bondage equipment or against a wall or table, and is spanked.
 
Standing Unsupported position is freestanding spanking, where they stand on their own and are spanked. Much like a child being spanked in a store.
 
Flat or Prone Position. In this position, a slave is laying on their belly, usually on a rack or in a bed. Their buttocks are not lifted by pillows or sleeping bag rolls.
 
Dealing with disabilities. Another area which is not discussed or taught is spanking with disabilities. Regardless if you are a dominant or submissive, disabilities will govern how a person is spanked. There are options that those with disabilities can use as to enjoy spanking.
 
Those who are wheelchair bound can be lifted out and placed upon a stool, steadied by a table, wall or something solid. By positioning their buttocks back as to slightly overhang on the stool, the “sweet spot” is exposed as well as the buttocks cheek.
 
For those dominants in a wheelchair, spanking still can be done from their wheelchairs and other options may be for the slave to stand in position in front of the chair and adjust their position in freestanding position as to allow a fluid spank stroke by the dominant to occur. The slave can also bend over and place hands upon a chair seat as to offer a spanking position in this manner.
 
Those who are bed bound dominants, a slave can prop their Master’s pillow up into a seated position or inclined moderately. Then lay across their lap to be spanked. The slave’s buttocks should be positioned as to be on the edge of the Master’s hip or thigh and not so the Master’s hand has to move across their body.
 
Those who are sight disabled can be helped into a position as dominant or submissive, as to spank in a variety of ways. The main key is free slaves that can position and adjust to the dominant’s technique and leaving the dominant’s technique unchanged. This works with whips and any other corporal administrations.
 
Those with hearing issues, still have their sight. However, there may be an occasion where an individual is deaf as well as blind. Being positioned and comfortable is most important. Free slaves can adjust again to the technique of the blind and deaf dominant, which leaves the dominant’s technique undisturbed as well.
 
The major summary of working with disabilities, is to not alter the technique of the one who is disabled. Only the one who is able adjusts.
[Excerpt]
 
I will add, that when you have thighs closed the pain will be more than when you have thighs open.  A relaxed neck, head and body will absorb the impact better than stiff body but, as I notice lass, you're tensing up as you know what is coming, so it just makes it even more punishing on you physically, as well as mentally and emotionally, as you dread the experience.
 
Respectfully submitted,
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RE: spanking properly - 5/13/2006 9:37:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

tammy jo I have that book it was only like a 20 page or so book.:)


It is short (85 pages), it is an introduction.

Like most Greenery Press books it gives you the basics, makes suggestions for practice and then offers other resources.

Spanking is not that complicated but having a book might help the OP feel more comfortable bringing things up. Plus he's offering suggestions not just saying "You are doing this wrong".

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RE: spanking properly - 5/14/2006 4:53:21 AM   
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I think that the role-play or fore-play leading up to spanking is essential. IMO most spankers are seduced by the mental fucking. This doesn’t mean that you rip into their flesh but continue the mental fucking throughout the course of the spanking. Teasing, building and drawing out the whole experience.


  I did not read the book but I can see where a book would give ideas. After all there are so many scenarios & implements that can deliver various densities.  There’s a big difference between a leather gloved hand then a cane. I may start off with one and end up with the most extreme.


  If I had more time I’d love to give examples but I just don’t. maybe someone here can.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/14/2006 10:15:39 AM   
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I am sort of with the poster who said "suck it up" but I would change it slightly.
 
Sucking it up means you are resisting, enduring....try to find a mental mindset that relaxes and enjoys it.
 
This is not easy, it is a practice and a skill, but I think it will serve you a lot longer and better then hoping or hinting that she would change...and I think you will get more out of your submission by mastering this skill set, and will make you more valuable to her.
 
I suggest deep breathing before and during, I suggest being really quiet not groaning, not crying out and lastly relax your body to a "dead weight" exactly how it sounds, imaging your body with no life in it, this is a great way to facilitate a type of sub space where you leave your body altogether and just float around the room...

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RE: spanking properly - 5/14/2006 7:44:26 PM   
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Explain to her how going in short sets (say 20 at a time) can allow your bottom to warm up to the point where you can take harder and longer spankings. Its your fantasy, if she cant meet you half way on it find someone else.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/15/2006 7:42:11 PM   
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There are many ways she can go about it.  My Domme usually gently brings me up.  Two nights ago...not so much.  She beat the hell out of me.  By far the wrost I've ever received.  She had a point to make, and made it.  I didn't realize it at first but she was determined to make me say my safe word.  I resisted, it was only when I relaized that's what she wanted that I reluctantly said it.  Still very sore with plenty of bruises.  All in all, it was great. 

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RE: spanking properly - 5/15/2006 8:02:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

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Isn't there a step-by step increase or gentle-to hard approach which helps the person taking the spanking an ability to build up tolerance or deaden the feeling?


There is, but nowhere is it written that she's required to follow that method.  If you're telling her you want a gradual buildup and she's still starting hard and heavy, it's probably because she simply wants to do it that way, particularly if she's a sadist.  She may well be enjoying the fact that you think it hurts too much, and if she's your owner, isn't it her right to do with you as she chooses? 
 
This may not be the popular opinion, but... since a spanking isn't likely to cause any permanent harm, I'd say suck it up. 


Yes.  This is it.  The only thing that would make this reply any better would be to remove the  question that I've bolded and make it a statment....
 
She is your owner and it's her right to do with you as she pleases.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/16/2006 1:34:15 AM   
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She is your owner and it's her right to do with you as she pleases.
 

What utter nonsense. Everytime I see people post ridiculous comments like this it makes me want to puke. How it is that people can take something wherein a sub offers themselves up into the care and attentions of a domme/dom and twist it into their being reduced to something on par with a shoe or piece of gum is beyond me. There is a reason why "John Q. Public" thinks people into S/M are all stark raving lunatics and its exactly these type of posts, messages, articles and attitudes that make them so. If I wasnt on the "inside" I would want to outlaw, ban, arrest and incarcerate "those/you" people too.
It seems like we just went through this but the sub controls the scene/relationship (as it applys to S/M) 100% of the time, with out fail nor qualification. This "ownership" nonsense is a fiction of people imagination. If anything it is either a gift/offering, "rental/borrowing" or what have you. Fantasy is great, reality is something else altogether. There should be a disclaimer on this site that states that the opinions of some "experts" should be disregarded as fantasy. People look to those with experience and may (sadly) take some of this advice.
"She is your owner and its her right to do with you as she pleases". Great, next week she will castrate you and make you eat your balls and you have no right to question this.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/16/2006 5:45:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress
She is your owner and it's her right to do with you as she pleases.


What utter nonsense. Everytime I see people post ridiculous comments like this it makes me want to puke. How it is that people can take something wherein a sub offers themselves up into the care and attentions of a domme/dom and twist it into their being reduced to something on par with a shoe or piece of gum is beyond me. There is a reason why "John Q. Public" thinks people into S/M are all stark raving lunatics and its exactly these type of posts, messages, articles and attitudes that make them so. If I wasnt on the "inside" I would want to outlaw, ban, arrest and incarcerate "those/you" people too.
It seems like we just went through this but the sub controls the scene/relationship (as it applys to S/M) 100% of the time, with out fail nor qualification. This "ownership" nonsense is a fiction of people imagination. If anything it is either a gift/offering, "rental/borrowing" or what have you. Fantasy is great, reality is something else altogether. There should be a disclaimer on this site that states that the opinions of some "experts" should be disregarded as fantasy. People look to those with experience and may (sadly) take some of this advice.
"She is your owner and its her right to do with you as she pleases". Great, next week she will castrate you and make you eat your balls and you have no right to question this.


I'll also note that the OP did not say they had an owner-slave/property relationship. He used the word "Mistress" which could imply several different arrangments.

I think the OP should talk to her about it, offer her information on other ways to spank, and then, if she won't compromise, ultimately he has to decide if he is willing to suffer for her in this way.

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RE: spanking properly - 5/16/2006 6:23:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: oyknee1

Can all of you help me.  My mistress just wants to jump right in and spank with all her might, and cannot understand why I say it is too hard of  a spanking all the time.  Isn't there a step-by step increase or gentle-to hard approach which helps the person taking the spanking an ability to build up tolerance or deaden the feeling?


By all means, there are various techniques that One can use--I do not use a warm up for discipline--it's to prove a point, not to have fun--the strokes are severe and the duration short--however, for long term spanking, I have learned that a warmup as well as periodic slowdowns allow for more long term endurance--and I am proud that no matter how intense or length, I produce minimal bruising----and that is key as well--bruises may be fun to look at but "blood pockets" are not and they are dangerous---I agree, you need to speak to Mistress--any good Dominant will want to take extreme care of their property---AND She needs to remember everyone has a different threshold to pain---that all has to be factored.
 
I have a killer right arm and haven't met anyone yet who could take what it has the ability to deliver----smiles---its all part of the communication--speak to Her before you get hurt.

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