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RE: Think what you eat is killing you? - 5/29/2011 7:34:55 PM   
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Why cant we/THEY stop poisoning our food and our planet?


The simple answer is: because it remains profitable to do so.

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RE: Think what you eat is killing you? - 5/29/2011 10:26:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
There's also this craziness that everybody's body should be a certain way, two people with the same height can have completely different shapes and bone structures, the right weight for one could be overweight for the other or too thin, but we grow up that we have to look a certain way, which leads to a lot of eating disorders.




Indeed. There are both slim and somewhat larger framed people in my family. When my niece jumped on my (skinny) back at age 12 after us not seeing each other for ~ 10 months or so she said "guess what uncle Ed, I weigh 120 now!" She was big for her age, but kids at that age 'growth spurt' in different ways and stop just as suddenly, 2-3 years different from each other. Three years later, @ around 15-16, she kept getting slimmer and slimmer, to the point I started wondering if she was taking active measures to cause that. Thankfully at age 18-19 she started looking 'normal' again. Now she's 21 and looks perfect to me. I don't know her weight now (130-135 as a guess, 5'9") but if she'd stayed at the rate as from when she was 12 she'd be a lot larger than she is now. In any case she was not meant to be petite, and she would look odd to me if she were anything other than what she is now.

(I didn't reach 135 till I was 35, and I actually gained 15 pounds during my ~10 years as vegetarian after that, though I don't know that that wouldn't have happened any way from age alone.)


Humans and their particular digestive systems and metabolic rates, etc.,  have evolved over 2-3 million years and diverged somewhat along the way to where they were ~ 100,000-200,000 years ago, with some minimal change and further diversion since. People were adapted to the environment surrounding them, and today with modern mobilization of either people or 'foreign' foods to stationary societies, many people are eating some things they are not adapted to.

Give us another 20,000-120,000 years and we'll probably be just fine with loads of trans fats and high fructose corn syrup and all sorts of preservatives and processed foods with a shelf of 100 years even with the box left open and unrefrigerated, and GMOs and ...  well, not sure about that last one.




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RE: Think what you eat is killing you? - 5/29/2011 11:32:09 PM   
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OK- just to be a contrarian- anybody wanna explain the Eskimo's diet and how those folks aren't keeling over from heart disease by age 35? Essentially no vegetables, very high fat-no grains either...



Peoples native to the arctic regions eat a lot of blubber and other fat, mostly raw or frozen, as much as 75% of the diet. The fat in all cold water sea animals contain high levels of Omega-3 fatty acids, which prevents the fat from congealing or becoming solid in such cold temperatures. The steak you take out of the fridge to cook is 'marbled' and only softens when heated, indication of no Omega-3 or -6 fatty acids.

Whale blubber also has high amounts of vitamin D, a good thing in an area having long spells w/out sunlight. Omega-3 (and also Omega-6) are essential fatty acids, meaning the body cannot synthesize them. They are effective plaque dispersants in the cardiovascular system, and significantly lower both triglycerides and VLDL cholesterol. Beef and pork fat and sugar do the opposite. Long story short, animal fats are vastly different from each other depending on type of animal and the region/habitat it is adapted to.

This along side the fact that the arctic folk eat plenty of vegetables and nuts as found in the region when in season, as HK pointed out.


Looking much further south, both the skin and the seeds of grapes have loads of anti-oxidants, hence the benefits of red wine, but I'm sure you already knew that.







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RE: Think what you eat is killing you? - 5/30/2011 8:14:14 AM   
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Think what you eat is killing you?


Yes, along with the stress and toxins we absorb from our environment.

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