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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 11:33:54 AM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		Okay. Here are the factors which the GOP needed to overcome:

1. The Chris Lee scandal turned off some voters, I assume.
2. The Tea Party candidate split the vote.
3. The Ryan proposal split off the seniors.

The fact that a Dem won was just part of the concern. Even if the Republican had won a squeaker, it should have been grounds for concern.



The Ryan plan is radioactive. If the GOP tweaks it now, they may survive 2012.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 11:41:44 AM   
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Does he not have credibility ??????


roflmfao

No he does not!





Well pardon me If I don't take your word for it

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 11:44:49 AM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_3313610/tm.htm

Here is a minor demonstration of why he lacks a credibility, (note that this was on the date that the issue was resolved) and his drawing people of like credibility parrotting him is not something that anyone possessing facts or reason and logic would gravitate towards.  Laughable idiot is all he is.





Try again. Keep in mind Rush will say absurd things to either make wise cracks or illiterate other absurdities.  I'm not going to read that entire thread at the moment  so I'll have to get back to you.  

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 11:52:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL.  Yeah, he is a fuckin absurd shiteater, no doubt about that.  Try again my ass.

I would like to see something credible he has done, replete with credible fact and citations.

Oh......................doesn't exist.

how many sockpuppets are out here now on the rabid right? 

What ever happened to the guy who doesnt know what an FFDL is and is 'schooling' me on it even as he is an expert in the lacsidasial and rather simplistic nature of the nursing profession because his wife lets him take the bedpan test that she administers to old peoples home employees, and he aced it.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 11:55:23 AM   
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Okay. Here are the factors which the GOP needed to overcome:

1. The Chris Lee scandal turned off some voters, I assume.
2. The Tea Party candidate split the vote.
3. The Ryan proposal split off the seniors.

The fact that a Dem won was just part of the concern. Even if the Republican had won a squeaker, it should have been grounds for concern.



The Ryan plan is radioactive. If the GOP tweaks it now, they may survive 2012.





Bottom line: The so called tea party candidate handed the election to the democrats. And it had little to do with the Ryan bill, except that the democratic candidate misrepresented the bill to an aging audience. The bill does not affect anyone over 55, which is the majority demographic up there.


  Worse, the democrats continue to misrepresent and continue to demagogue the bill. They repeat, over and over, that the Ryan plan will kill medicare, when in fact, it is a medicare fix bill. It is a typical scare tactic that works. People just don't know and haven't read it, and then the press won't call out the democrats on their demagoguery. The reason medicare and social security haven't been reformed is the democrats do a very good job scaring and demagoguery. And when you do that incessant;y, you don't get anything fixed.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 11:56:26 AM   
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Even Rush talked about it earlier in his program today. That in and of itself gives it credibility, right wing or not.


Rush has credibility??????


Definitely caught my eye and caused my eyebrows to shoot upwards an inch or so. Perhaps......incredibly.......as in incredibly annoying.


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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 12:05:19 PM   
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Bottom line: The so called tea party candidate handed the election to the democrats.


Repub "fixes" for Medicaid are proposals to eliminate or dilute it.

Bottom line per your conspiracy paranoia--the Democrats here aren't that smart. But the Tea Party is that stupid.

Republicans are going to have to actually solve a problem. Tax cuts aren't going to bury this one.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 12:09:21 PM   
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Republicans are going to have to actually solve a problem. Tax cuts aren't going to bury this one.


But actually solving a problem is what is going to bury them.  It ain't there, when we need rubber on the road. The largest part of the problem is they refuse to educate themselves, and rely on misinformation and ineptitude or simpleminded ideologic claptrap to be the fix. 

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 1:04:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Does he not have credibility ??????


roflmfao

No he does not!


Well pardon me If I don't take your word for it




Its credible to make fun of a man with parkinson's disease on web cam.

Its credible to take drugs for years and lie about it repeatedly, only owning up to it when he knows he is about to be caught.

Its credible to have an addiction while repeatedly slamming others who did.

Its credible to possess a prescription that was not in his name.

This is what you call "credible"?

Don take my word for it... look it the hell up!


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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 1:24:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I found it both ironic and amusing that after this Democrat won in New York, the number of Republicans and conservatives came forward to state "This is nothing major or news worthy". If any of you recall the upset by then, Scott Brown, against his Democratic opponent, Martha Coakley, the Republicans came out strong with "This is a new era for America! We are showing those liberal elite that we are taking back our country" (and all that other baloney). There are a few on this very board that cheered Mr. Brown's election on, but now (or soon will) try to down play this Democrat's victory in New York.

Ironic and Amusing....

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 1:32:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, allow me to be the first Democrat who says...

This is a new, new era for America!

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 1:37:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

Does he not have credibility ??????


roflmfao

No he does not!


Well pardon me If I don't take your word for it




Its credible to make fun of a man with parkinson's disease on web cam.

Its credible to take drugs for years and lie about it repeatedly, only owning up to it when he knows he is about to be caught.

Its credible to have an addiction while repeatedly slamming others who did.

Its credible to possess a prescription that was not in his name.

This is what you call "credible"?

Don take my word for it... look it the hell up!




There is more context to all of that but why should I bother to get into it. It won't change your opinions and mostly trivial as far as I'm concerned. I know he gets under your skin and crawls around till you guys start having tizzy fits. If Rush says this guy Davis is a tea party fraud I'll bet on it and take my money to the bank.


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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 1:40:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, I agree with you being a Ditto head... your every post here has proved it.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 1:42:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I am sure there is some salient facts about this fuckin asshole that mitigate his disgusting fuckin personage.

But there aint a goddamn thing in the galaxy that makes any of his shit credible.  Thats a real pile in the bank there.


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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 2:05:54 PM   
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oh that sounds so familiar
SO ashamed of the "wonderful tea party gonna be great for america", LMFAO
Now saying the  dems are planting double agents.
just like all the misspelled tea party signs were held up by dems in disguise?
They STILL just cannot take responsibility for their own dumbassery????



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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 2:20:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is hardly a 'Crat 'upset.' Between the Republican candidate and the "Tea Party" candidate (and I use the term loosely as Jack Davis generally runs as a Democrat), the conservative side of the issue got 52% of the vote. 

Medicare will be a winning issue for the GOP moving forward, mainly because the choice that's being offered is between reduced benefits (the Republican/Ryan plan), or NO benefits in a few years because Medicare as it is currently designed will no longer have the resources to fund all the baby boomers medical needs. 

National Journal/Charlie Cook

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 3:22:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the Tea Party is now part of the Republican party? Or do you only include them when its convenient.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 3:50:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

Even Rush talked about it earlier in his program today. That in and of itself gives it credibility, right wing or not.


Rush Limbaugh on Barack Obama:

quote:

So the popular opinion has been, the consensus has been, "Yeah, he was born in Hawaii, isn't any big deal." They still can't prove it. This is stunning to me. Still can't prove it.


Putting aside the fact that he's a known prescription drug addict, and that you can never trust a junkie, Rush Limbaugh HAS NO CREDIBILITY because he's just another one of those people who are so stupid, crazy and/or racist there is simply no way a black man can legitimately be President.

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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 4:03:38 PM   
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Okay. Here are the factors which the GOP needed to overcome:

1. The Chris Lee scandal turned off some voters, I assume.
2. The Tea Party candidate split the vote.
3. The Ryan proposal split off the seniors.

The fact that a Dem won was just part of the concern. Even if the Republican had won a squeaker, it should have been grounds for concern.

The Ryan plan is radioactive. If the GOP tweaks it now, they may survive 2012.


Bottom line: The so called tea party candidate handed the election to the democrats. And it had little to do with the Ryan bill, except that the democratic candidate misrepresented the bill to an aging audience. The bill does not affect anyone over 55, which is the majority demographic up there.

Worse, the democrats continue to misrepresent and continue to demagogue the bill. They repeat, over and over, that the Ryan plan will kill medicare, when in fact, it is a medicare fix bill. It is a typical scare tactic that works. People just don't know and haven't read it, and then the press won't call out the democrats on their demagoguery. The reason medicare and social security haven't been reformed is the democrats do a very good job scaring and demagoguery. And when you do that incessant;y, you don't get anything fixed.


You don't get it.  By all rights, the election should have been a GOP landslide, not even close.  If you add votes for the Tea Party candidate and the Republican, it's pretty close.

The GOP has not found any way to deal with criticism of the Ryan bill.  Even if it doesn't slice anyone off at the knees if they're above 54, it still slashes Medicare while giving tax breaks to the wealthy.  It's so easy to say that it's taking money from Grandma and handing it over to the rich bankers, etc.

I'm absolutely amazed that the GOP didn't draw up a defense for the utterly predictable attacks on this bill by now.


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RE: DEMOCRATIC UPSET - New York Special Election: Medic... - 5/25/2011 4:07:03 PM   
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Even Rush talked about it earlier in his program today. That in and of itself gives it credibility, right wing or not.



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