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Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 9:56:12 AM)
Despite the great admiration some people have for this guy, he seems to be spot on with some of his statements. We'll wake up one day and these things will be truth, then what will you do. Next stop..social conditioning. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 12:31:47 PM)
Security risk?

pahunkboy -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 12:34:24 PM)
I really don't understand why there isn't more of an outcry over this- then what there is.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 12:37:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy I really don't understand why there isn't more of an outcry over this- then what there is. In my view it's social conditioning. Keep pushing people till they expect it and you've won..some people just roll over. What's that saying? You either stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:00:08 PM)
What I think is a major point here is the fact that this will set a precedence for future issues. Is this what's going to happen on other political concerns that the states may address? So the Feds would be willing to close down transportation of a whole state to get their way? If you're not angered by this, you might as well kill yourself because all you're doing is taking up space. FFS stick your fingers in the nearest electrical socket so you jolt those feelings will ya?[:D]

pahunkboy -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:03:44 PM)
It would back fire- for the fed to close down all flights from Texas. It would draw more attention to the we must grope you- thing- the small group of people who do not like this- are pretty vocal-- everyone else is afraid - thinking a bomb will go off 24-7. That someone wants to harm specifically them- and now and spend trillions to do so.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:26:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy It would back fire- for the fed to close down all flights from Texas. It would draw more attention to the we must grope you- thing- the small group of people who do not like this- are pretty vocal-- everyone else is afraid - thinking a bomb will go off 24-7. That someone wants to harm specifically them- and now and spend trillions to do so. Am I wrong for kinda hoping they do it and the Feds do what they say?[:D] Man what a shit storm that would be. Maybe it would wake a few people up.

pahunkboy -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:29:13 PM)
^ that is what I mean- it would cause quite a stir.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:46:22 PM)
Here's another link. http://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/tx-vs-tsa-doj-threatens-to-cancel-all-flights-in-and-out-of-texas-tx-caves/

SilverMark -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:49:15 PM)
I hate to break up the love fest here, but I do fly often enough to make time to get through such inconvieniences as the TSA, since 9/11, it is just part of life. Each and everyone of you whinning about the searches, would be the first to blame the Federal Government if another 9/11 were to arise. Especially you pa, only you'd claim they actually planned it, and implimented it in some distraction from the price of gold. Yes, occassionally individuals probably take it too far, but so do your local police officers,school teachers, the DEA and the FBI, and when they do they are called out for it. 9/11 isn't fresh enough in your minds to understand the security measures in the new world we live in? If you don't wish to be subjected to the new rules of flying, DRIVE. Alex Jones, is just another fire starter with a really bad hairpiece.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 1:59:57 PM)
quote: 9/11 isn't fresh enough in your minds to understand the security measures in the new world we live in? If you don't wish to be subjected to the new rules of flying, DRIVE. I remember exactly where I was on that day as I'm sure many others do. Don't use 9/11 as a way to justify constitutional rights being taken away. And for the driving bit? As an American I and many others have the right to fly AND change the rules as we see fit. It isn't if you don't like it..do something else bud. it isn't if you don't like it..leave or any of the other bullshit lines people wanna drop on you because you speak out. You're okay with it? Fine by me but the state of Texas and soon to be many others that are getting on the bandwagon aren't okay with it and it's their right to make those changes without having to "drive" and make due. I'll give you $5 if you'll sign over your rights..looks like that's all it's worth to you anyway and the rest of your freedoms.

SilverMark -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:07:20 PM)
You have the "RIGHT" to fly? Then you no longer have to buy a ticket? You no longer have to abide by the rules of the airlines? You no longer have to wear a seatbelt? You don't even have to raise your tray table? I think you have a slight issue understanding the difference between a "RIGHT and a "Privilege". Find some other way to express your discomfort over some other rights loss you perceive, it would make much more sense.

joether -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:17:23 PM)
If you have a problem with the TSA, don't fly. There are these invetions called: cars, trains, and boats. They don't require TSA pat downs (although you better hurry up with trains....). You want the convenience of getting to your destination faster, well, you get to live with the regulations that come with it. I find the 'Alex Jones' crowd complain so much about this, but as Silver Mark put it, another '9/11' would be blamed on the US Goverment. They (the Alxe Jones crowd) want it both ways: complete freedom with none of the responsibility. Dont like the TSA but want to fly? Then present a system and plan that is proven to work that maximizes the following criteria: A) Speed of passangers on and off planes B) Safety for all persons related to the airports, aircraft, and in the 'path' of said oncoming jet C) Cost Efficient D) Is based on sound and proven counter terrorism techniques E) Will cost less hassle, issue, and probems for the flying public, the Goverment, and all the employees who deal with both on a daily basis. Funny how Alex Jones or the rest of you can't offer up such a well thought out plan of action. Not smart enough? Not educated enough? Not patient enough? Not....wise....enough?

outhere69 -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:25:55 PM)
The complaint number is 0.0004%. Pat-downs are not done on everybody. I've flown about 200,000 miles and had 1 pat-down because something in my clothing set off a magnetometer. I think it was too sensitive, since the "something" was my jeans zipper! My objection to TSA stuff is that it many ways it's cosmetic, while far far less attention is paid to ramp workers. They are in the position of doing a lot of damage. BTW, pa, the fact that someone is TSA certified and working a prom doesn't mean that the TSA is doing prom security. They are moonlighting, just like off-duty cops. Texas really makes me laugh sometimes - the leg rants about states rights, until they need fire response. (Or disaster response after hurricanes.) Then they rant about not getting help, even though they already had a whole bunch of fire help from the feds. The state benefits from a large number of military installations, and is home to Lockheed-Martin, a leading defense contractor. In addition, a bunch of other defense contractors are there supporting Lockheed. So yeah, let them go all the way and shut down all federal influence to the state.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:29:03 PM)
quote: I think you have a slight issue understanding the difference between a "RIGHT and a "Privilege". So everyone who doesn't support a certain thing loses that ability? I have the right to access the same things you do in this country, regardless of whether you agree with it or not. Blacks weren't allowed to eat in the same locations as whites at ones time..should we tell them that if they don't like it that they can cook at home? No you've lost perspective. Sure if I do something wrong and deserve to be on a no fly list then I can understand but telling thousands of Americans that if they don't like it they can do something else..Well that's just ignorant. "Privledge" is government talk for the weak minded who are willing to fall in place and not make waves while they get screwed.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:33:45 PM)
quote: If you have a problem with the TSA, don't fly. There are these invetions called: cars, trains, and boats. They don't require TSA pat downs (although you better hurry up with trains....). Yeah and what happens when they start doing it at traffic stops and large events and every other thing under the sun? Is it going to be okay with you then? I'm not willing to roll over for anything they send down the pipe in the name of security. I'm not a terrorist and I don't need to be subjected to pat downs. No I won't drive as the end all alternative. I'll make a stand along with the many others who are tired of all the regulations and the stabs at the very thing we're suppose to be about.

SilverMark -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:38:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: I think you have a slight issue understanding the difference between a "RIGHT and a "Privilege". So everyone who doesn't support a certain thing loses that ability? I have the right to access the same things you do in this country, regardless of whether you agree with it or not. Blacks weren't allowed to eat in the same locations as whites at ones time..should we tell them that if they don't like it that they can cook at home? No you've lost perspective. Sure if I do something wrong and deserve to be on a no fly list then I can understand but telling thousands of Americans that if they don't like it they can do something else..Well that's just ignorant. "Privledge" is government talk for the weak minded who are willing to fall in place and not make waves while they get screwed. You are really confused, when you buy a ticket, it is a privilege, a contractual agreement. To exercise that privilege you must abide by the set rules of those with whom you have the contract that in buying the ticket you agree to. How you can possibly tie this to a civil rights issue leads me to believe you are a bit deluded in your thinking. Protest whatever it is your little pea picking heart desires, you have that right, but do not confuse "right" with privilege. You have the right to free speech, you have the right not to buy a ticket from an airline that will not make you go through a TSA screening, it is called chartering a private plane, at a small airport. If you wish to Fly Southwest, Delta, American etc. you get screened as part of buying the privilege to your seat. Aside from all of that, your comparison of TSA screening the civil rights of balcks is a bit laughable!

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 2:51:43 PM)
quote: You are really confused, when you buy a ticket, it is a privilege, a contractual agreement. To exercise that privilege you must abide by the set rules of those with whom you have the contract that in buying the ticket you agree to. How you can possibly tie this to a civil rights issue leads me to believe you are a bit deluded in your thinking. Protest whatever it is your little pea picking heart desires, you have that right, but do not confuse "right" with privilege. You have the right to free speech, you have the right not to buy a ticket from an airline that will not make you go through a TSA screening, it is called chartering a private plane, at a small airport. If you wish to Fly Southwest, Delta, American etc. you get screened as part of buying the privilege to your seat. Aside from all of that, your comparison of TSA screening the civil rights of balcks is a bit laughable! Fourth Amendment and ensure that each person enjoys the right “to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures” — a right which the U.S. Constitution mandates “shall not be violated.” Now you can say they also have a right to implement law that says different..They do but to play dirty like that where they have no jurisdiction is bullshit. I think what this is really about is the usual problem..They want to control what goes on in every state and in every home of that state..so much so that they'd be willing to shut down a states transportation in order to do it. What I have a right for is to not be blocked against flying because I refuse to give up my fourth amendment constitutional rights..under those I still have a right to fly. if by going against those is an attack on them. Truthfully though, I pay taxes so that those fuckers at the airport can afford to keep their airports open or at least they've most likely taken bailout money at one time or another. So why then is it a privilege and why should I let them touch my wille?[:D] I get the bit about they have a right to decline people..They own the company..just like I own my business and I have a right to refuse people but it even that has limitations. You're so used to the being told what you can and can't do that you've lost what it means to be free, I think.

Aneirin -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 3:01:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin Anyway, I still stand with the idea of the kinky against the TSA, negate the humiliation by enjoying the contact, as a good groping is not to be missed when one can get it. I think you're right. The next time it happens, I'm gonna ask if they wouldn't mind cupping my balls while they do the rest..It makes me feel safer or how about..Could I get your number while letting fly a few moans and comments "Oh yes..you've got soft hands. Do you use Jergens?" Lemons into lemonade it is. [:D] I am of the mentality, if one can't beat them, fuck them up, make them think they are doing you a service. So the pat downs, people enjoy it and be audible in your pleasure.

Icarys -> RE: Rage Against The TSA: Protesters Storm Texas Capitol Alex Jones’ spontaneous decision calling on (5/26/2011 3:03:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin Anyway, I still stand with the idea of the kinky against the TSA, negate the humiliation by enjoying the contact, as a good groping is not to be missed when one can get it. I think you're right. The next time it happens, I'm gonna ask if they wouldn't mind cupping my balls while they do the rest..It makes me feel safer or how about..Could I get your number while letting fly a few moans and comments "Oh yes..you've got soft hands. Do you use Jergens?" Lemons into lemonade it is. [:D] I am of the mentality, if one can't beat them, fuck them up, make them think they are doing you a service. So the pat downs, people enjoy it and be audible in your pleasure. In a demented way the idea of this is humorous as hell but in reality it's no laughing matter.

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