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Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:20:44 AM)
Seriously taz, youre not making sense. Not an attack, I wish you well also. quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Im sure you wont blame me if I say you are full of shit, willbe.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:24:20 AM)
and that list of non sequturs have what to do with your crap? you're in a no spin zone dizzy. http://news.antiwar.com/2011/05/23/sens-kerry-mccain-push-resolution-to-support-libya-war/

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:24:29 AM)
quote: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3163457 quote: Page Not Found The page you are looking for has either moved or is no longer available, but you may be interested in the content below. As for the other "references"... I wasn't talking about racism... I was talking apoplectic people... look up the word. On a side note, it is humorous to be that you would judge the entire peace movement on the actions of anarchists, yet you give the tea party a pass on the actions of Larouche's gang... very interesting indeed

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:34:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Seriously taz, youre not making sense. Not an attack, I wish you well also. quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Im sure you wont blame me if I say you are full of shit, willbe. Thank you. And, yes, rereading it, I can see how its confusing. The war I speak of is with the largest, and most powerful, voting block in this country... the Baby Boomers... 80 million strong. The Republicans are bringing that war to their doorsteps... politically its suicide. I am in no way suggesting the Democrats have it all correct. There are many problems with the health care law that has nothing to do with death panels or increase cost. From the 2008 election... The popular vote was 69,456,897 to 59,934,814, respectively Its widely believed, and I cannot prove otherwise, that the Boomer generation had alot to do with the 2010 tide that hit congress. They will feel betrayed by the current bills being presented by Republicans. And rightly so considering how many of those bills have taken a direct aim against their own population segment. This is the war I am referring too.

Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:35:09 AM)
There was very little that was real with the fanatic anti-Bush "peace movement" What you had were were leftist political operatives using the "peace movement" title for purely political purposes A fact that has become abundantly clear, especially considering the developments weve witnessed in the past couple of months quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3163457 quote: Page Not Found The page you are looking for has either moved or is no longer available, but you may be interested in the content below. As for the other "references"... I wasn't talking about racism... I was talking apoplectic people... look up the word. On a side note, it is humorous to be that you would judge the entire peace movement on the actions of anarchists, yet you give the tea party a pass on the actions of Larouche's gang... very interesting indeed

hot4bondage -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:36:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle It's only a secret if you haven't been paying any attention since July of 2008. I'm not sure what you're referring to. Here's a quote from someone who has been reporting on the Patriot Act for some time. "The recent fiery floor speeches from Sens. Wyden and Udall are the first time widespread attention has been drawn to this issue—but it was actually first broached over a year ago, by Sen. Richard Durbin and then-Sen. Russ Feingold, as I point out in my new paper on Patriot surveillance."--Julian Sanchez, 5-28-11

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:36:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Im sure you wont blame me if I say you are full of shit, willbe. Wrong again. I was serious. There is only one person on these boards I seriously wish ill. In that case, I am sorry and will say thank you for the well wishes.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:41:57 AM)
quote: What you had were were leftist political operatives using the "peace movement" title for purely political purposes Pot Kettle Black http://www.freedomworks.org/ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704407804575425061553154540.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2010/02/05/DI2010020503095.html Dick Armey From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Dick Armey Dick Armey in 1997 22nd Majority leader of the United States House of Representatives In office January 3, 1995 – January 3, 2003 Speaker Newt Gingrich (1995-1999) Dennis Hastert (1999-2003) Whip Tom DeLay Preceded by Dick Gephardt Succeeded by Tom DeLay Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Texas's 26th district In office January 3, 1985 – January 3, 2003 Preceded by Tom Vandergriff Succeeded by Michael C. Burgess Born July 7, 1940 (age 70) Cando, North Dakota Political party Republican Spouse(s) Susan Armey Profession Economist Richard Keith "Dick" Armey (pronounced /ˈɑrmi/; born July 7, 1940) is a former U.S. Representative from Texas's 26th congressional district (1985–2003) and House Majority Leader (1995–2003). He was one of the engineers of the "Republican Revolution" of the 1990s, in which Republicans were elected to majorities of both houses of Congress for the first time in four decades. Armey was one of the chief authors of the Contract with America. Armey is also an author and former economics professor. After his congressional career he worked as a consultant, advisor and lobbyist.

flcouple2009 -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:42:13 AM)
Poor Sanity I know it's just bugging the hell out of you that as you were trying to make an issue of the War Powers Act running out an agreement from Congress just popped out of the air. Almost like Obama already knew it was going to happen.

Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:43:52 AM)
Oh, I get it now You are trying to claim that the reason that "antiwar" leftists who were absolutely apoplectic during the Bush years have fallen silent now about Libya, and the continuing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the invasion of Pakistan to kill OBL, and the fact that GITMO is still open, and the supposedly inhumane treatment of Private whats-his-name who facilitated the Wikileaks scandal, and Obama autopenning the Patriot Act... Etc etc etc... Is because McCain and Kerry are pushing said resolution. That sounds slightly less crazy, I suppose quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail and that list of non sequturs have what to do with your crap? you're in a no spin zone dizzy. http://news.antiwar.com/2011/05/23/sens-kerry-mccain-push-resolution-to-support-libya-war/

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:44:51 AM)
quote: I'm not sure what you're referring to. Probably the fact that Obama never promised to get rid of the Patriot Act, and even talked about making it better during his campaign... but you would only know that if you had been listening to the opposition, which you probably weren't http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama:_U.S._presidential_election,_2008/On_renewal_of_the_Patriot_Act

mnottertail -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:48:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Oh, I get it now You are trying to claim that the "antiwar" leftists who were absolutely apoplectic during the Bush years have fallen silent now about Libya, and the continuing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the invasion of Pakistan to kill OBL, and the fact that GITMO is still open, and the supposedly inhumane treatment of whats-his-name who facilitated the Wikileaks scandal, and Obama autopenning the Patriot Act... Etc etc etc... Is because McCain and Kerry are pushing said resolution. That sounds slightly less crazy, I suppose No, you dont get it now. Do not put words in my mouth, or attribute any line of reasoning to me you decide to flame me with. First and formost, you aren't intelligent enough to do it, and will be caught out and laughed at even more than you are now. You are at the level of you can see russia from your house sorta guy.

Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:48:53 AM)
Thats one of the main reasons you gave for your supporting Obama over Hillary though, julia... It was important to you then, but not now? Why the change of heart?

Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:51:27 AM)
Whatever... believe anything you want to believe mnot... [:D] quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail No, you dont get it now. Do not put words in my mouth, or attribute any line of reasoning to me you decide to flame me with. First and formost, you aren't intelligent enough to do it, and will be caught out and laughed at even more than you are now.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:56:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thats one of the main reasons you gave for your supporting Obama over Hillary though, julia... It was important to you then, but not now? Why the change of heart? Actually, neither obama or hillary voted for the original patriot act, but Hillary did vote to authorize force in Iraq, which is a larger issue for me politically speaking. In light of the "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" guy, Obama seemed much better... The Patriot Act was the reason I supported Dennis Kucinich in the primaries....

mnottertail -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:57:43 AM)
I don't know why not, you certainly do, in spite of massive credible evidence to the contrary.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 10:59:58 AM)
My posting history with my support of Kuninich and why I supported him

flcouple2009 -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 11:35:07 AM)
FR Personally, I never had problem with Afghanistan, The only issue I had was the lack of a real plan. With the focus back on Afghanistan that has gotten better but not great. Iraq had bad ideal written all over it from the start. It only got worse form there. Libya I thought we should have stayed out of. Why Libya? Do we now jump and help anybody who revolts against a leader we don't like? GITMO is just a mess. Where to hold the prisoners has been a major hold up. I may not like it being open but how to deal with the mess is just a problem that I can wait to see dealt with. The Patriot Act? I was never a huge fan nor did I think the sky was falling because of it. It has been around long enough that the resigning is not goign to create the same protest it once did. Manning, please. I am supposed to get upset because the little traitor had to sleep naked or is in solitary? Shrugs, I guess some of us don't have an understanding what the meaning of "everybody" is..

tazzygirl -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 11:42:17 AM)
quote: Manning, please. I am supposed to get upset because the little traitor had to sleep naked or is in solitary? When you brag about being able to kill yourself with the elastic from your underwear, naked it how you are going to be. The kid was being a smart ass... the result was based upon that. If he had even attempted to go through with his "joking" threat, the uproar would have been just as deafening.

Musicmystery -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 12:07:32 PM)
quote: "antiwar" leftists who were absolutely apoplectic during the Bush years have fallen silent now about Libya, and the continuing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the invasion of Pakistan to kill OBL, and the fact that GITMO is still open, and the supposedly inhumane treatment of Private whats-his-name who facilitated the Wikileaks scandal, and Obama autopenning the Patriot Act... You need to get out more. The antiwar movement is alive and well and targeting Obama.

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