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Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 1:33:34 PM)


Thats not the reality of what occurred in Minneapolis back in 2008 at all

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/rnc-protests.html

But Im never surprised by your ridiculous "spin" these days

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
I remember old people being physically accosted at the RNC convention in Minneapolis, for example.



Ah yes the Ron Paul supporters, outside and inside the convention, I remember it well too. It made all the papers. After the rabid right demonized the democrats for it in the media a few days until it was found that they were Ron Paul supporters, then you could have heard a pin drop, instead of apologies.  But the rabid right has never bothered with fact. 

Unless you are talking about the republican that was busted in an airport bathroom for trying to suck off some other republicans but got a cop instead, but that was for cause he got roughed up,  and he was guilty. 




Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 1:35:53 PM)


Sure

Thats all Ed Schultz and "Chris "Tingles" Mathews ever talk about

All the violent antiwar protests that are still going on

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
You need to get out more.

The antiwar movement is alive and well and targeting Obama.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 1:38:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


But Im never surprised by your ridiculous "spin" these days





These days???????




Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 1:43:49 PM)


Years ago he showed some spark now and again

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


But Im never surprised by your ridiculous "spin" these days





These days???????




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 1:45:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Years ago he showed some spark now and again

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


But Im never surprised by your ridiculous "spin" these days





These days???????



Before I got here, then.




Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 1:57:01 PM)


Yeah

He and I were even friends at one point, he was even cordial






Musicmystery -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 3:16:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sure

Thats all Ed Schultz and "Chris "Tingles" Mathews ever talk about

All the violent antiwar protests that are still going on

[/sarcasm]

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
You need to get out more.

The antiwar movement is alive and well and targeting Obama.


By the real world, I don't mean TV world.

News hasn't been news for a long time now.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:24:14 PM)

Since the Libya campaign started Ive seen exactly 1 report on anti-war Protestors, TV, news and magazines combined. That was an interview with Cindy Sheehan on Fox.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:28:49 PM)

Well, they're certainly on the streets around here, regularly.

No one much is listening, but they are there.

ETA--I just Googled "anti-war protest Libya," and there are about 7,780,000 results.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:30:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, they're certainly on the streets around here, regularly.

No one much is listening, but they are there.


City? Upstate? LI?

I haven't seen any in CA (Orange County and Im occasionally in LA), CO, NV or HI.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:31:54 PM)

Upstate--central NY.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:35:26 PM)

Here ya go.

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134920040/the-root-why-few-support-obamas-libyan-mission

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/19/134696559/protesters-urge-withdrawal-from-iraq-and-afghanistan

and also....

http://www.npr.org/2011/04/15/135391188/whatever-happened-to-the-anti-war-movement




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:41:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here ya go.

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134920040/the-root-why-few-support-obamas-libyan-mission

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/19/134696559/protesters-urge-withdrawal-from-iraq-and-afghanistan

and also....

http://www.npr.org/2011/04/15/135391188/whatever-happened-to-the-anti-war-movement


wtg NPR....becoming fair and balanced under new leadership? or out of fear of defunding?




mnottertail -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 4:50:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats not the reality of what occurred in Minneapolis back in 2008 at all

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/rnc-protests.html

But Im never surprised by your ridiculous "spin" these days

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
I remember old people being physically accosted at the RNC convention in Minneapolis, for example.



Ah yes the Ron Paul supporters, outside and inside the convention, I remember it well too. It made all the papers. After the rabid right demonized the democrats for it in the media a few days until it was found that they were Ron Paul supporters, then you could have heard a pin drop, instead of apologies.  But the rabid right has never bothered with fact. 

Unless you are talking about the republican that was busted in an airport bathroom for trying to suck off some other republicans but got a cop instead, but that was for cause he got roughed up,  and he was guilty. 



Well, you are the ridiculous spin as usual.  Those things did happen and the democrats were accused.

Additionally, you said:

I remember old people being physically accosted at the RNC convention in Minneapolis, for example.

The air was thick with leftists demonizing and openly reviling anyone even remotely Conservative

There is maybe one (thats right, read your article provably leftist demonstrator).  There is no proof that he physically accosted anyone.

There is nothing about demonizing, thats what you do, and open revulsion, shit, there is open revulsion for the lawless republican thugs and goons in Wisconsin and several other places that seem to think that being 'conservative' means fuckin the poor and seeing that america bows to corporations.  And don't smear decent conseravites like Dwight David Eisenhower with that crap.

This is the widespread lawlessness of the 'conservative' thugs and goons trying to murder children:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5pdwTQ4xA8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr-0088ZLno
http://gawker.com/5501717/tea-party-vigilantes-out-for-liberal-blood
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/20/code-red-gun/
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/20/code-red-gun/




Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 5:06:06 PM)


Those links have nothing to do with your bullshit claims about the 2008 GOP Convention violence

And the sources are laughable besides








mnottertail -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 5:15:42 PM)

Lies. Lies and more lies.  Do you know people can click those and see you lie?

Those are conservative violence by lawless republican thugs and goons, the first one tried to kill a 10 year old girl and her father. The last one is real republicans fearing for their life from their own party.

Or do you mean you want me to cite the paul supporters thing,
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news101.htm

or Craig getting busted in the airport bathroom?




Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 6:00:57 PM)


Thanks.

From your links:

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An anti-war protester takes part in a demonstration in front of the White House over the weekend,...



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More than 100 anti-war protesters, including the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers, were arrested outside the White House on Saturday in demonstrations marking the eighth anniversary of the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

The protesters, some shouting anti-war slogans and singing We Shall Not Be Moved, were arrested after ignoring orders to move away from the gates of the White House. The demonstrators cheered loudly as Daniel Ellsberg, the former military analyst who in 1971 leaked the Pentagon's secret history of the Vietnam War that was later published in major newspapers, was arrested and led away by police.

In New York City, about 80 protesters gathered near the U.S. military recruiting center in Times Square, chanting "No to war" and carrying banners that read, "I am not paying for war" and "Butter not guns."



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It happened in 2007, when tens of thousands congregated on the National Mall and heard actors Sean Penn, Jane Fonda and Danny Glover speak out against President George W. Bush and the war in Iraq. It happened in 1991, when throngs rallied against U.S. involvement in the first Gulf War. And it has happened more than a dozen other times since the March on Washington for Peace in Vietnam in 1965.

Now, despite the U.S. military's concurrent and costly entanglements, the National Mall is quiet and the streets of Washington are pretty much protester-free.

The lack of noise and the apparent nonchalance raises the question: Where have all the protesters gone?


So, an antiwar protester, a hundred, and eighty now, with very little media coverage

vs. tens of thousands during the Bush years complete with actors with megaphones and plenty of very favorable media coverage

Only serves to underscore my point, dont you think?


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here ya go.

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134920040/the-root-why-few-support-obamas-libyan-mission

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/19/134696559/protesters-urge-withdrawal-from-iraq-and-afghanistan

and also....

http://www.npr.org/2011/04/15/135391188/whatever-happened-to-the-anti-war-movement




Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 6:08:00 PM)

Tea Party protests are a different thread mnot, thats a complete non sequitur. Are you lost? That has nothing to do with what I posted or with the thread in general.

And Ron Paul supporters being "treated harshly" has nothing to do with what you claimed earlier, either.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Lies. Lies and more lies.  Do you know people can click those and see you lie?

Those are conservative violence by lawless republican thugs and goons, the first one tried to kill a 10 year old girl and her father. The last one is real republicans fearing for their life from their own party.

Or do you mean you want me to cite the paul supporters thing,
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news101.htm

or Craig getting busted in the airport bathroom?




mnottertail -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 6:13:41 PM)

It has everything to do with what you claimed, originally. This violence is being perpetrated by rightists, real goons and thugs, we see it all over.  Leftists are peacful and sociable.  

Ellsberg would be a rightist, since he was military, and you have assured us the military is republican.


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Sanity -> RE: Obama signs Patriot Act (5/28/2011 6:16:08 PM)


Youve done nothing to disprove the LA Times information I posted mnot

Youve managed a distraction, a crazy little derail, I will give you that


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It has everything to do with what you claimed, originally. This violence is being perpetrated by rightists, real goons and thugs, we see it all over.  Leftists are peacful and sociable.  

Ellsberg would be a rightist, since he was military, and you have assured us the military is republican.


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