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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:06:44 AM   
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Just because this isn't your kink, it doesn't mean that other people don't get off on it, and they should be allowed to do so without others putting them down. Your kink is OK and all that.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:07:41 AM   
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Then maybe you can explain to me why that is any different than being a prostitute
I don't really care about the fact that you feel financial domination=prostitution. I no longer wish to marry everyone I consider having sex with either. I wasn't looking for a man who submitted financially, but he did, and the relationship was M/s, as long as it lasted. My dad gave my mother everything he thought she wanted/needed. I never heard him call my mother a prostitute for accepting...

I don't know that a kink can be explained to you, if you're mind is already made up. I know of men who ingest urine, or feces. If I were submissive, I would gladly submit financially, before I submitted to scat/watersports. Should I dump a guy who submits completely, because otherwise, I may look like a prostitute? Is it prostitution because he submits financially, and I dominate every decision he makes? Is it prostitution because the men submitting aren't married to the women dominating? I've never put a price on me, or anything I do; but if being treated well is prostitution, I'll take it. Thank you very much.

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As person A I can go to the local strip club and have all of my desires met by offering the right amount of money.
Yeah you! You're a lucky guy, if all of your needs are met at the local strip club. Having never been to one, I don't know what they provide. I've also never been called out of my name. *shrugs* M

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:08:32 AM   
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I dont believe financial domination is wide spread. I do believe there are many who fake it simply as a means to get money. I do believe those who are "into it" do so with their minds on the kink and not the dollar signs.


There is the difference right there, I don't believe it is a kink.  I believe it is a lot guys getting exploited by greedy bitches.

And if you don't think it is widespread try popping onto the red profiles.

It will open your eyes.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:14:29 AM   
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There is the difference right there, I don't believe it is a kink. I believe it is a lot guys getting exploited by greedy bitches.

And if you don't think it is widespread try popping onto the red profiles.

It will open your eyes.
Wow! I'm shocked! I'm very surprised... And saddened by having my eyes opened, in this instance. M

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:16:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Then maybe you can explain to me why that is any different than being a prostitute.

As person A I can go to the local strip club and have all of my desires met by offering the right amount of money.


My Owner and I practice financial domination. My Owner is not a prostitute, and I am not paying for his services. It is a means of extending power and control over me and dominating me in a way that is mutually consensual.

Why does it bother you so much what other people find enjoyable and works for them? You probably would do lots of things I disagree with but that's your right. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. You resent the idea that a Dom/me would want to do something you don't enjoy, and it bothers you that there are other subs who are willing to. But that's your problem, not theirs.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:17:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SexyBossyBBW

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Then maybe you can explain to me why that is any different than being a prostitute
I don't really care about the fact that you feel financial domination=prostitution. I no longer wish to marry everyone I consider having sex with either. I wasn't looking for a man who submitted financially, but he did, and the relationship was M/s, as long as it lasted. My dad gave my mother everything he thought she wanted/needed. I never heard him call my mother a prostitute for accepting...

I don't know that a kink can be explained to you, if you're mind is already made up. I know of men who ingest urine, or feces. If I were submissive, I would gladly submit financially, before I submitted to scat/watersports. Should I dump a guy who submits completely, because otherwise, I may look like a prostitute? Is it prostitution because he submits financially, and I dominate every decision he makes? Is it prostitution because the men submitting aren't married to the women dominating? I've never put a price on me, or anything I do; but if being treated well is prostitution, I'll take it. Thank you very much.



Let me ask you something.

You consider yourself a dominant woman, correct?

So as a dominant shouldn't you be taking care of your submissive rather than the other way around?

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:24:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		What you have, isn't unusual. I've almost always dated, and married men who made less money than I. I've never thought them assholes, or gigolos for sharing who I am, and what I had.
It's women who are are whores, or money hungry bitches, when the situation is reversed. The sad thing is, I would expect those statements from many men on here; but rml would have been among the last people, I'd have expected that statement from.

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rulemylife
Let me ask you something.
You consider yourself a dominant woman, correct?

So as a dominant shouldn't you be taking care of your submissive rather than the other way around?
I do take care of my submissive. What does money have to do with taking care of him? Are you suggesting I should only date men who make less money, so he can submit?! M

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:31:51 AM   
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My Owner and I practice financial domination. My Owner is not a prostitute, and I am not paying for his services. It is a means of extending power and control over me and dominating me in a way that is mutually consensual.

Why does it bother you so much what other people find enjoyable and works for them? You probably would do lots of things I disagree with but that's your right. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. You resent the idea that a Dom/me would want to do something you don't enjoy, and it bothers you that there are other subs who are willing to. But that's your problem, not theirs.

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Because I'm guessing your owner could manage to get by on his own without dominating you financially.

Reverse the genders.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:36:02 AM   
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What you have, isn't unusual. I've almost always dated, and married men who made less money than I. I've never thought them assholes, or gigolos for sharing who I am, and what I had.
It's women who are are whores, or money hungry bitches, when the situation is reversed. The sad thing is, I would expect those statements from many men on here; but rml would have been among the last people, I'd have expected that statement from.



Sorry, but I've been in the position too many times to not comment on it.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 1:45:24 AM   
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I do take care of my submissive. What does money have to do with taking care of him? Are you suggesting I should only date men who make less money, so he can submit?! M


No. what I am suggesting is that the majority of dommes expect their submissive to provide for them.

It's not really an alternative lifestyle, only the same old lifestyle being recycled.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 2:40:04 AM   
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There is the difference right there, I don't believe it is a kink. I believe it is a lot guys getting exploited by greedy bitches.

If I'm not mistaken, just last night you posted rather indignantly in response to a male Dom who believes that male submission is a defect, not a kink. What makes him wrong and you right, other than your personal opinion of what is and isn't an 'acceptable' kink?




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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 3:16:29 AM   
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My Owner and I practice financial domination. My Owner is not a prostitute, and I am not paying for his services. It is a means of extending power and control over me and dominating me in a way that is mutually consensual.

Why does it bother you so much what other people find enjoyable and works for them? You probably would do lots of things I disagree with but that's your right. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. You resent the idea that a Dom/me would want to do something you don't enjoy, and it bothers you that there are other subs who are willing to. But that's your problem, not theirs.

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Because I'm guessing your owner could manage to get by on his own without dominating you financially.

Reverse the genders.



I see, so you are saying women cannot get by without a man's financial assistance? And you are saying that dominant women, in particular, could not get by without the financial assistance of submissive men? I think you are wrong. The majority of women are more than capable of meeting their own financial needs, I know I was for 10+ years before I met my Owner. Most dominant women seem very well placed to get by in the business world, due to their assertive, confident personalities and their willingness to take charge.

If there is anyone who has a need that they cannot satisfy, it is more likely to be submissive men. There are many submissive men fighting over and desperate for the attention of a smaller number of dominant women. I think it bothers you that submissive men need dominant women and that dominant women can capitalise on this to choose submissive men who most fulfill their own fantasies - i.e. to financially dominate a man. But once again, that is your problem, not theirs.

The fact that your opposition is gendered tells us everything we need to know about your prejudice. You're not opposed to financial domination, you're just opposed to women financially dominating men. When a man financially dominates a woman, that's okay, but when a woman financially dominates a man, she's a prostitute! Talk about double standards.

If all people who financially dominate their partners are prostitutes, then most men have been prostitutes since the dawn of capitalism. Funny how it only bothers you when women do it?

Of course, what is missing in all of this is any analysis of the submissive men who enable Dommes to fulfill their financial domination fetishes. If it's so morally and ethically wrong, why aren't you rallying against them and their weakness at consorting with 'prostitutes'? Or is it only women that aren't supposed to benefit from it?


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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 3:17:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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Is it a scam if that is someone's kink? By someone, I mean the person paying it.


It's not a kink, though the purveyors of it like to present it as such.

I don't think you will find many guys who are on here begging someone to take their money.

They do so out of desperation.






Please go and tell that all the idiots who spam me with Cmail asking me to take their money... I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who gets pestered by them, the best way to get rid of them is to ask them to donate to charity and scan the receipt for it in, then they disappear...


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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 4:57:10 AM   
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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 5:09:19 AM   
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No. what I am suggesting is that the majority of dommes expect their submissive to provide for them.


The majority of women want someone *capable* of providing for her. Many women won't date a man who nakes less than she does, just as many women won't date a man shorter than she is. The societal pressures about this go both ways. A vanilla friend of mine used to date men who made less, and *they* had real problems with that, jealousy, as though she was sleeping around. She recently told me never again.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 6:16:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		There seem to be some genuine dommes that are into financial domination and male subs into it. It must have something to do with men "paying" for women, being used/not worthy etc. but I think it is open to exploitation like anything to do with money. At times it's also a way for men who probably don't have this fetish but have become desperate, to attract women. The fakes are easy to spot IMO, da young 20 somethings who don't sound authentic and have YM addy's on their profile.

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In fact it, even exists in vanilla relationships where the Dude comes home and hands the paycheck over to "the boss". Think about it for a moment. How many men have you heard refer to the women being "the Boss".

Surely the boss should pay her employee, not da other way round?

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 6:55:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wants, there are "how to be a camgirl" sites that encourage young women to put up profiles places like Alt and collarme to drum up business. There are also findomme message boards and communities, much like this one, though smaller, where women share tips and tricks. To a newbie domme, the idea of a website full of men who want to submit to her can sound like a gold mine. The reality, though, is that findomme requires a lot of work (not kidding) and the risks are high. Disgruntled ex subs stalk you, report you, etc.

Certainly many of the profiles you mention are operated by men running a scam. But a lot of them are operated by young women trying to make the rent, who are too new, or too unskilled, to be featured someplace like MeanGirls.com.

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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 8:02:11 AM   
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No. what I am suggesting is that the majority of dommes expect their submissive to provide for them.


The majority of women want someone *capable* of providing for her. Many women won't date a man who nakes less than she does, just as many women won't date a man shorter than she is. The societal pressures about this go both ways. A vanilla friend of mine used to date men who made less, and *they* had real problems with that, jealousy, as though she was sleeping around. She recently told me never again.


Having had that problem once, I can relate, and it's usually not the woman who has the problem of earning more, it's the guy's ego who gets dented a bit that a woman earns more, which is damned stupid... The only time money and income comes up in my relationship is if one of us is considering to change jobs or received another job offer which we consider, and it's more in terms of "Well, the money might be better but would you be happy...." or when we consider buying a new car/have another bath put in/new furniture, etc., how much can we spend on it without feeling a pinch. I couldn't tell you how much my other half makes exactly and I'm seriously not interested, he'd tell me if I'd ask but why would I want to know? Wouldn't matter, we share the running costs and mortgage, put something aside for emergencies and the rest is disposable income but his disposable income is none of my business, nor is mine his business, we do with it what we like.

Now what I find amusing is that the guys who really are always pissy about not getting their kinks for free just expect to be "serviced" by dominant women, they should have the equipment, set the time aside, learn how to fulfill the kinks and educate themselves on safety and what not, but heaven beware that the guys actually contribute anything. I think they are actually worse than money dommes, money dommes say outright they are only interested in money, those guys pretend to be submissive, they're only submitting to their own kinks. In any relationship there is a give and take, but those guys are just takers, or freeloaders!



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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 8:38:24 AM   
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attey I have been notching a new trend of female Dom's posting on there profiles about financial domination. I would like to know is when did this start and why would a sub would do send there own money to a Dom they never see in person before?


Because that's their fetish. Or one of them.

You ARE talking about a Domme relating this to subs and not a Dom relating this right?



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RE: Financial Domination WTF?!?! - 5/28/2011 8:40:17 AM   
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No, it is a scam and nothing less.

And anyone that falls for it is a complete idiot.
I disagree.
I would caution anyone against submitting financially to anyone he/she isn't in a relationship with. I would not agree that it's idiotic, if person A is getting desires met by person B, for a cost person can afford to pay. If person A is of sound mind, when person B demands money, or even if person A is not, being financially dominated is hardly a sign of decreased mental capacity. M

That's a lot of ifs but I know not every financial dominant cares what the answer to some or all of those ifs are. Probably the average person wouldn't condemn it if there wasn't the impression left that financial dominants often manipulate the foolish out of everything they need to survive. They also would not condemn it if the impression wasn't created that the submissive was left with buyer's regret, a whole heap of self recrimination and on the whole emotionally worse off after the venture had ended.

It's not good for some, it's good for others. Like everything here very hard to judge.

Edit: Apostrophication (if there was such a word this is how you'd spell it.)

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