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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 11:35:39 AM   
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On a serious note though, just because I have a 5 year Naval career, as a 2nd Class P.O. ... anyone thrugh a military period would get their minds "straightened up" so to speak. Even under the seemingly horrible ways the military uses for countless years. And, to be perfectly honest, We had several roughneck types during my time, all of which resigned quite fast. O.P., no offence meant, but you really need to get the real you in display, not only here, on a BDSM forum and personals site, but in every aspect of your life. Being Z"Cool" and "Tough" is really neat, and cool, but it will not get you really far, trust this old fart here.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 11:47:07 AM   
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What if that is the real him? Sometimes what you see is what someone is.

Anyway, I love these threads where the OP never makes an appearance.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 11:48:32 AM   
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What if that is the real him? Sometimes what you see is what someone is.

Anyway, I love these threads where the OP never makes an appearance.


I really want to believe that it's not the real him... or there are some people who are bound to get in serious trouble when they meet with our friend. And I say this in the literal, bad meaning of trouble.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 11:49:07 AM   
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I would assume he ran like the wind. All things considered.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 11:58:46 AM   
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Honestly I a so damn tired of seeing all this BS about "treat me with respect and get to know me" on your profiles!! Why it is when a guy does try to do that 9/10 females ignore him?? I am really tired of getting deleted and ignored but yet 9/10 ten females also bitch about guys that come at them like billy badass! So if you will please....... Tell me what is going on here??


OP, in addition to what everyone else said, you joined 11 days ago. How can you be "tired" of anything?

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 12:50:49 PM   
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lose the hat.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 1:37:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: douchebagfirefox

Honestly I a so damn tired of seeing all this BS about "treat me with respect and get to know me" on your profiles!! Why it is when a guy does try to do that 9/10 females ignore him?? I am really tired of getting deleted and ignored but yet 9/10 ten females also bitch about guys that come at them like billy badass! So if you will please....... Tell me what is going on here??


To address your actual question, a lot of submissive women with ads on Collarme look for any reason or excuse to reject a man who writes them. The majority do this, I personally believe, because they are giddy on the power trip of all these male dominants supplicating them for attention and trying to catch their eye. They love the feeling of rejecting somebody: it makes them feel powerful and special and far more attractive than the probably are in real life. Nowhere in real life does a woman get the quantity of flattering attention that she gets on an online dating site. All that flattery all too frequently goes to a submissive woman's head and she forgets that she's actually on here to find a man to control her. No matter how well-written your email is, a good majority of these women will find a way to reject it because of this intense inflation of ego that's going on. They'll nitpick it until they find one tiny thing: a misspelled word (the guy must be an illiterate idiot), an approach that was too aggressive, that wasn't aggressive enough, that was just right but he didn't mention my favorite fetish right off the bat so we must not be compatible, etc. ad nauseum.

I believe the profile itself, which has become the focus of this thread, is fairly irrelevant, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to pay some attention to it. If you really are writing nice emails to submissives that attempt to get to know them, chances are your lack of success is, in part, the bitches' faults, not yours. Their overweening pride at their "popularity" will often cause them to reject even men who would be perfect for them. Nevertheless, if I were you I'd follow some of the suggestions made here to improve your profile. If you ignore the nastiness with which the suggestions have been delivered, and look for the repeating pattens (i.e. there were a lot of comments about exclamation points) you will find the lowest common denominator of things that people find "difficult" or off-putting about the profile. I do think this is secondary, however, and that even after you clean up the profile, you're still going to get little to no response. It's just that bad here. There are lots of ways to catch a submissive woman's attention and stand out. Sometimes these techniques are talked about in "Ask a Submissive" in threads with keywords like "email" in them.

Asking questions a good technique and makes you stand out from the crowd. Read each profile you write to and ask a few interesting specific questions about it. Ask things that you think would be fun to answer if you were her, not boring things or obvious questions comments that anybody would think of to ask. Don't forget humor, when you can pull it off. It relaxes the reader and make even start her liking you. Women tend to appreciate men who seem "different" from the other men around them, so anything you can think of to say that will not be the standard ordinary stuff that that anyone would think to say to her is also good. It takes practice to become non-obvious or non-cookie-cutter "sounds the same as all the rest" in an email, but it can be mastered with practice.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 1:45:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: douchebagfirefox

Honestly I a so damn tired of seeing all this BS about "treat me with respect and get to know me" on your profiles!! Why it is when a guy does try to do that 9/10 females ignore him?? I am really tired of getting deleted and ignored but yet 9/10 ten females also bitch about guys that come at them like billy badass! So if you will please....... Tell me what is going on here??


Your profile is not only in severe need of growing up, but you have to remember that 9/10 "females" on this site, particularly the really hot looking ones with only one photo and two lines of text, are in fact men. Add these two problems together and you'll be in limbo here for a very, very long time.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:32:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: aromanholiday


quote:

ORIGINAL: douchebagfirefox

Honestly I a so damn tired of seeing all this BS about "treat me with respect and get to know me" on your profiles!! Why it is when a guy does try to do that 9/10 females ignore him?? I am really tired of getting deleted and ignored but yet 9/10 ten females also bitch about guys that come at them like billy badass! So if you will please....... Tell me what is going on here??


To address your actual question, a lot of submissive women with ads on Collarme look for any reason or excuse to reject a man who writes them.

Right. It couldn't be that the emails we all get are inappropriate, or just not appealing to us. Because, ya know, no one is allowed to have preferences in your world.

The majority do this, I personally believe, because they are giddy on the power trip of all these male dominants supplicating them for attention and trying to catch their eye. They love the feeling of rejecting somebody: it makes them feel powerful and special and far more attractive than the probably are in real life.

Speak for yourself. I am sorry you don't feel attractive or powerful enough and have to project this insecurity onto other women.

Nowhere in real life does a woman get the quantity of flattering attention that she gets on an online dating site.

Again, speak for yourself. Are you nuts? I have been getting attention since puberty in real life as do my friends. You do realize you are speaking of yourself and projecting, right?

All that flattery all too frequently goes to a submissive woman's head and she forgets that she's actually on here to find a man to control her.

Right. And your way is everyone's way. Everyone is here because of an assumption that you have made. Cool.

No matter how well-written your email is, a good majority of these women will find a way to reject it because of this intense inflation of ego that's going on.

Sure, and it couldn't be things like...oh I don't know, being too far away, not meeting specific needs like being married or wanting poly, or a myriad of other factors.

They'll nitpick it until they find one tiny thing: a misspelled word (the guy must be an illiterate idiot), an approach that was too aggressive, that wasn't aggressive enough, that was just right but he didn't mention my favorite fetish right off the bat so we must not be compatible, etc. ad nauseum.

Again, perhaps you reply to every email that you get and you find every man who writes you to be potentially perfect for you. Good for you. Some women are actually discerning.

I believe the profile itself, which has become the focus of this thread, is fairly irrelevant, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to pay some attention to it. If you really are writing nice emails to submissives that attempt to get to know them, chances are your lack of success is, in part, the bitches' faults, not yours.

I love it; the women are all bitches for having preferences. You are batting a thousand here, sparky.

Their overweening pride at their "popularity" will often cause them to reject even men who would be perfect for them.

I find it interesting that you keep harping on feeling popular on a website. Most intelligent people realize that no amount of online attention is worth anything. Really. The only attention that is valid is the one you receive from someone you are interested enough in to actually meet in real life. Perhaps you only live your life online so this is news to you.

You would have to be a vapid, insecure sad person indeed to get your validation from anonymous emails on a kink site or any dating site.

Nevertheless, if I were you I'd follow some of the suggestions made here to improve your profile. If you ignore the nastiness with which the suggestions have been delivered, and look for the repeating pattens (i.e. there were a lot of comments about exclamation points) you will find the lowest common denominator of things that people find "difficult" or off-putting about the profile. I do think this is secondary, however, and that even after you clean up the profile, you're still going to get little to no response. It's just that bad here.

Then why are you here if it is so bad?

There are lots of ways to catch a submissive woman's attention and stand out. Sometimes these techniques are talked about in "Ask a Submissive" in threads with keywords like "email" in them.

Finally, some helpful advice to the OP without bashing the entire submissive female population.

Asking questions a good technique and makes you stand out from the crowd. Read each profile you write to and ask a few interesting specific questions about it. Ask things that you think would be fun to answer if you were her, not boring things or obvious questions comments that anybody would think of to ask. Don't forget humor, when you can pull it off. It relaxes the reader and make even start her liking you. Women tend to appreciate men who seem "different" from the other men around them, so anything you can think of to say that will not be the standard ordinary stuff that that anyone would think to say to her is also good. It takes practice to become non-obvious or non-cookie-cutter "sounds the same as all the rest" in an email, but it can be mastered with practice.


Well, that was fun.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:38:31 PM   
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No red, we're all just horrible bitches and it's a conspiracy against horny guys who sent us nasty mails, we just don't understand their intent or our place...

Please make a note for future reference, every cock shot you have in your mail can't be deleted, but you have to gush over it and be amazed, no matter how tiny or misshaped...

Suitably impressed replies you can find here

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:42:01 PM   
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quote:

All that flattery all too frequently goes to a submissive woman's head and she forgets that she's actually on here to find a man to control her.


Damn, could have sworn... why yes... the Man already controls me. I dont have to look anywhere for it.

quote:

No matter how well-written your email is, a good majority of these women will find a way to reject it because of this intense inflation of ego that's going on.


I deliberately put that I am in a relationship somewhere in the middle of my profile. Quickly weeds out the morons who decide that because its not the first sentence, I must be available.. In other words, it doesnt matter how well written the email is, its not going to work.

quote:

I believe the profile itself, which has become the focus of this thread, is fairly irrelevant, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to pay some attention to it. If you really are writing nice emails to submissives that attempt to get to know them, chances are your lack of success is, in part, the bitches' faults, not yours.


I want to highlight that phrase yet again....

quote:

the bitches' faults


So, because we dont fall head over heels for your first, second, 24th attempt to get a woman, then we are "bitches"?

And you wonder why these men are having no success?

quote:

If you ignore the nastiness with which the suggestions have been delivered, and look for the repeating pattens (i.e. there were a lot of comments about exclamation points) you will find the lowest common denominator of things that people find "difficult" or off-putting about the profile.


I can assure you no one will forget your nastiness.



< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 5/31/2011 3:43:00 PM >


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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:46:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

I believe the profile itself, which has become the focus of this thread, is fairly irrelevant, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to pay some attention to it. If you really are writing nice emails to submissives that attempt to get to know them, chances are your lack of success is, in part, the bitches' faults, not yours.


I want to highlight that phrase yet again....

quote:

the bitches' faults


So, because we dont fall head over heels for your first, second, 24th attempt to get a woman, then we are "bitches"?

And you wonder why these men are having no success?





You gotta understand, oh you're so cruel, I mean he used bitches and not c*nts - aren't you flattered? Clearly he read Miss Manner's book.... Stop being unreasonable

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:51:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: aromanholiday



Well, that was fun.





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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:54:15 PM   
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LC, I never claimed not to be a bitch. Im just not a bitch because of a few men that I turn down... repeatedly... after telling them over and over that I am in a relationship.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:54:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

I believe the profile itself, which has become the focus of this thread, is fairly irrelevant, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to pay some attention to it. If you really are writing nice emails to submissives that attempt to get to know them, chances are your lack of success is, in part, the bitches' faults, not yours.


I want to highlight that phrase yet again....

quote:

the bitches' faults


So, because we dont fall head over heels for your first, second, 24th attempt to get a woman, then we are "bitches"?

And you wonder why these men are having no success?





You gotta understand, oh you're so cruel, I mean he used bitches and not c*nts - aren't you flattered? Clearly he read Miss Manner's book.... Stop being unreasonable

<searches frantically for the "sarcasm off" button>



I am glad that Lady Constanze saved me the need to apply more sarcasm in this thread.... because I would be literally venomous. I think we've all been trolled here by our cowboy friend. Best we let it go, and get buried under the new threads that will be more worhty of our time.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 3:55:45 PM   
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quote:

I am glad that Lady Constanze saved me the need to apply more sarcasm in this thread.... because I would be literally venomous. I think we've all been trolled here by our cowboy friend. Best we let it go, and get buried under the new threads that will be more worhty of our time.


I adore sarcasm. Why do you have to hate?

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 4:02:26 PM   
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the contrary... I love good, bitter, painful sarcasm. I just don't find this cowboy worth getting any from me.

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 4:03:00 PM   
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LC, I never claimed not to be a bitch. Im just not a bitch because of a few men that I turn down... repeatedly... after telling them over and over that I am in a relationship.


You see, it's all your fault, I just have been informed (about 5 minutes ago) that if I am not looking, what the hell I am doing on CM, I must be a whore and said guy wouldn't allow me that if I was his (btw he identifies as a submissive)...

Clearly he has a point, I mean as women, which right do we have to talk to other people, shouldn't we be busy in the kitchen and all that?

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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 4:07:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

You know. There was a sale on red peppers at the store today. Oh yes, and the yellow peppers. And the orange peppers. I have a very colorful kitchen. I'm roasting veggies right now. My place smells all kinds of yummy.

While roasting veggies is a worthwhile past time, it is not terribly... erudite. :) Ergo, I was utilizing the 3 brain cells that submissive women are permitted to have and realized how glad I was that he chose the right screen name.


My question for submissive women is what are red bells selling for these days?  Cause they are wicked expensive here in our little part of the world.  Last summer, I could get them for as little as $.68 each...now, they average between $1.50 and $2.00 each.

Sunshine?  What about Korea?  Are they the same sort of bulbous peppers with sweet flesh that we get here?



They are indeed Otter, they are indeed. These particular peppers cost me $2 (more or less) for 3 of them. *mad math skills* Yes.... about $.68 (since the cents sign is now a ^). And I cooked them in a little - wait for it - freshly pressed sesame oil. Yum.


Oh and Red - I second all that "speak for yourself" stuff. *nod nod nod*


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RE: Question for For submissive females!! - 5/31/2011 4:12:51 PM   
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the contrary... I love good, bitter, painful sarcasm. I just don't find this cowboy worth getting any from me.


The above sarcasm was not directed at the cowboy.

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