mnottertail
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin Death panels, a term exploited by Sarah Palin is typically what liberals refer to as her lies about Obamacare (or at least one of them) and I assume you as well. (an assumption, not fact) The dirty little secret about Obamacare he hoped would have escaped the headlines was his plan to reform medicare as part of overall deficit reduction, Obama proposed a panel - The Independent Payment Advisory Board - to recommend savings for the financially doomed program. Translation: rationing. (not a dirty secret whatsoever. Here is the fact: The Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB, is a United States Government agency created in 2010 by sections 3403 and 10320 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which has the explicit task of reducing the rate of growth in Medicare without affecting coverage or quality. Under previous law, changes to Medicare reimbursement rates were recommended by MedPAC but required an act of congress to take effect, but the new system devolves responsibility to IPAB with congress being given the power to overrule the agency's decisions.) (streamlining, efficiency in government) The board, which was an original part of Obamacare, (so called death panel) consists of 15 unelected bureaucrats who will have unchecked, binding power in the interest of supposedly greater efficiency and lower costs. That means that instead of you or your doctor making decisions about your care, a group of bureaucrats will do it for you. (lie revealed!!!!! not unchecked and not quite binding either.) And does not mean that the decisions for your care are entirely up to them on case by case basis. As they are in an insurance company deathpanel, who as I have stated have a personal monetary interest in killing you instead of paying (it is actually their job) They will do this by cutting reimbursements to doctors and hospitals and restricting patients from costly end-of-life care by enforcing caps on how much a patient can spend to stay alive. (exactly how insurance works today!!!!!!! fearmongering Joe the Plumber style, distinctions without differences 'THEY' the nameless faceless 'THEY' ) Most at risk will be the disabled, who require special and often expensive care. Cancer patients will be at risk, as well, since chemotherapy and other oncological treatments are some of the priciest. (same as insurance today with all mitigations noted prior) In the past, Obama had hinted that we'll need a way to address these patients. "The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80% of the total health care bill out here." He said this shortly after taking office. "There is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place." Doesn't look like a hint (that is a sinister innuendo, I belive the fucking guy actually said it!!!!!) But there was no real conversation. Democrats inserted the rationing panel into the Affordable Care Act (i.e., Obamacare), and when the opposition tried to draw attention to the risks involved by invoking rationing, they were branded by the left and the mainstream media as crazies (that is Sarah Palin is a liar smear tactic character assassination Bullshit which addresses what MY FREAKIN POINT HAS BEEN ALL ALONG). I agree with your assessment that she is a liar...smearer....character assassinator....you needn't yell!!!! Is it a fair to compare death panels to rationing to The Independent Payment Advisory Board ? I believe it is. It is fair to compare the insurance industry way of doing business (championed by the conservatives), the IPAB board, and death panels. It's open for debate, not character assassination. And you immediately smear and assassinate. So, we see some outright lies, some distinctions drawn without difference, insinuating that only the evilist of intentions are the governments, and insinuating by implication that the Insurance death panels are altruistic. A fact would be, Jerry Garcia is dead. You haven't got those. You have stated your case, and I don't buy your assumptions, and don't buy your deal. It is smear, plain and simple. Joe the Plumber turned out to be a hypothetical, but unreal thing. Same as this is, and thats your translation you wanted.
< Message edited by mnottertail -- 6/2/2011 2:05:23 PM >
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