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wandersalone -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/2/2011 7:44:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oldhippie1954 the only time a shirt would be allowed would be while grocery shopping on Tuesdays all other times a shirt would be forbidden. also would have to work something out for winter time after all -10 degree weather would not be the best for being shirtless Seems like you have this all worked out. Now you just need to find the person to do exactly as you wish by forcing you to be shirtless on every day except tuesday when you go shopping.

Hillwilliam -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/2/2011 10:12:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet An enforceable contract requires an offer, acceptance and consideration. Consideration means, for example. X will pay you 5K a year to be shirtless at all times. In the absence of consideration, it isn't a contract, it is prefactory. So, what is the consideration for you being shirtless at all times? Having said that, I have a hard time imagining a court enforcing such an agreement. Could be interesting, though. Yay, my vanilla ice cream cone went away! You forgot that a contract must be concerning legal actions. For instance, if I were to sign a contract to deliver an illegal substance and reneged, it is unenforcable. (no problem with the subject matter here). As for consideration, one of the most common is "love and affestion" Consideration doesn't have to be tangible to be real. Congrads on the loss of your ice cream cone.

oldhippie1954 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/2/2011 10:41:33 PM)
if you say Consideration doesn't have to be tangible to be real does that mean if it was agreed upon my punishment if caught wearing a shirt could be x number of swats on the ass and that would make it an enforceable contract?

Iamsemisweet -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/2/2011 11:08:55 PM)
Hill , it probably isn't illegal for old hippie not to wear a shirt. Remember, courts can elect not to enforce actions that are against public policy also. Not having seen him, I have no opinion on that.

Hillwilliam -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 9:10:28 AM)
Good point there sweet LOL. Oldhippie, in reference to your question, a contract with corporal punishment mentioned would probably be unenforcable because striking another person in your household is considered to be "Domestic Violence" which is a crime. Any contract that specifies a criminal act to be committed is void as mentioned above.

sexyred1 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:26:19 PM)
Ya know, there really does not seem to be a requirement for such analysis of a fairly simple request that someone has. I don't even know why the OP started the thread other than to see if anyone was available looking to "force" a dude into being shirtless even though he really wants that. OP, you would be better served by interacting with people in real life, either by engaging in a relationship where you both negotiate what you each want, or by entering into a financial thing with a pro. But talking about contracts and legal issues and enforcing contracts just seems so over the top to me. And again, everyone has the right to their preferences and the whole point is to find someone who shares them. The discussion of "is he seeking a service submissive top" is not really anyone's concern, is it?

mnottertail -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:27:32 PM)
He seems like the type of guy would give you the shirt off his back, though.

sexyred1 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:33:29 PM)
He does, right? That is a plus in my book. :)

mnottertail -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:36:36 PM)
trouble is, I don't think you'd ever hear the end of it.

sexyred1 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:43:22 PM)
Nods, plus I could never take him home to Mom. She requires a shirt at all times for men. Women, not so much. :)

mnottertail -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:49:53 PM)
Write it in the contrak. Peachy Tolliver Carnahan

Iamsemisweet -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:50:49 PM)
Chill-ax Red. At this point, no one, including the OP is taking this all that seriously. It was just a crazy fun "over the top" question to begin with. OP seems down with all the legal talk. He certainly does not seem offended.. I didn't know that there were any "requirements" or bars on analysis for posting on this topic or any other. And over the top on a BDSM website is relative, for sure. I DO get the sense that a couple of commenters are lawyers, and, well, you know lawyers. Have a nice day.

sexyred1 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 2:56:44 PM)
Are you actually referring to me?? If so, you seem to not grasp my words. I was merely saying that a somewhat fun thread devolved into people questioning what motivation the OP had and I commented on that. Subsequently, mnottertail and I were just being silly. Chill-ax yourself.[8\|]

Iamsemisweet -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 3:07:47 PM)
"But talking about contracts and legal issues and enforcing contracts just seems so over the top to me" I don't know if I was referring to you Red, but I was referring to the above quoted comment. Doesn't seem all that hard to grasp, actually.

oldhippie1954 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 3:29:20 PM)
mostly I had posted the question because I was just wondering of such a thing was even possible. yes it is ment to be a crazy fun "over the top"question but I have heard of stranger things actully happening in real life

sexyred1 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 3:30:38 PM)
It's all cool, bro. Enjoy!

mnottertail -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 3:31:45 PM)
Yeah, that was great, it was provocative, now go put a shirt on, you silly guy.

oldhippie1954 -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/3/2011 4:46:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Yeah, that was great, it was provocative, now go put a shirt on, you silly guy. is that allowed? [sm=smile.gif]

Hillwilliam -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/4/2011 5:41:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet Chill-ax Red. At this point, no one, including the OP is taking this all that seriously. It was just a crazy fun "over the top" question to begin with. OP seems down with all the legal talk. He certainly does not seem offended.. I didn't know that there were any "requirements" or bars on analysis for posting on this topic or any other. And over the top on a BDSM website is relative, for sure. I DO get the sense that a couple of commenters are lawyers, and, well, you know lawyers. Have a nice day. Not a lawyer here. Real Estate Broker. Much worse [8D]

sunshinemiss -> RE: is it possible to...? (6/4/2011 3:07:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ishtarr Personally, if a sub comes to be with a fetish like that he wants to prescribe to me that I must cater to, I will go absolutely opposite and the prescribed fetish will most likely one of the things he least ever gets -unless I happen to actually be in that mood- simple because not catering to their fetish will ACTUALLY give them a taste of the control they claim to want. Perhaps not surprisingly most find out rather rapidly that didn't want somebody else to have that control after all and they really wanted to be in control themselves all along. If you where mine, you'd be in a suit and tie most all of the time. Because making you dress in a manner of my choosing instead of yours... that would actually be about... ya know... control. ... because it works sooooooooo well to deny someone what they enjoy....

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