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Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 9:02:36 PM   
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This is a fairly long story, so I apologize for that up front. Also, it has to do with a long distance relationship, so before any of you knock me or call me an idiot for trying it, trust me, I am starting to discover how stupid I may have been. I just don't like to limit myself to the small area I'm from. I mean, seriously, who else is from Cambridge, Maryland? I'm in the middle of nowhere.

Anyway, 5 months ago I met this girl from Michigan on here. I am from Maryland, so it was only about an 8 hour drive. I've played hockey since I was a teenager and am use to traveling. 8 hours is a little stretch, but not too bad, so I figured I'm good. We talk a lot and I find that she is unlike a lot of girls I have talked to online (I have talked to several).

Recently my job has gone way down hill in this economy. I am in construction and literally everyone I know is going out of business. I'm talking guys 50 and older (I'm 25) who have been doing this since high school are trying to get hourly jobs because no one wants to spend money on roof repairs or a new deck, etc. I tell her I'm not rich. I paint no illusions for her and tell her straight that I am a struggling laborer and writer/composer in my off-time. Writing and music is my passion and I work on them whenever I don't have construction.

She asked to come to me, but I told her that wouldn't work. I live with other people to help with rent. Don't have a lot of privacy. It's terrible as it is with me here by myself. Having another with me at the moment would be a disaster. ALSO, I am very close to my family. I use a lot of my money to help them. They have helped me in the past, and I return the favor. I mean, what is family for, right? I have a 4 year old sister I have helped provide for, and I would feel like a total bastard to desert her. She is precious. I told my girl all of this, and she said it was fine.

Anyway, this doesn't stop her from growing to like me, and "love" me, as she puts it, even though we have never met. We share a lot in common. And I know she isn't a scam, because I have spoken to many of them, and I am not an idiot. I have common sense because my Mom beat it into me growing up. A few likes and common interests we share are things she brought up first, without me saying anything. Plus, she has asked me smaller detailed questions about how I am. For instance, she has a small dog and asked if I would mind if she kept it. I could tell she cared for it because she continually insisted it was trained and wouldn't be a problem for me. I like dogs, so it was no problem at all and I told her that. I've also found scammers to be very agreeable. She and I have already had a couple arguements we've had to talk out, but she's always stuck with me afterward. Even when she's let me know she did not agree with me totally but would abide.

And I have talked to her on the phone several times. Heard her voice. Asked her questions to hear how she's reacted, because I know that anyone can type anything behind a computer. Plus, she had about 80 photos of herself she sent to me. I know some scams have a few photos, but that many? Of her by herself, with friends, etc.

About 3 weeks into us talking, her roommate decides he wants the place to himself and his girlfriend and he kicks her out. The lease and all is in his name, so she apparently has no choice and ends up moving to Minnesota with one of her old friends. And Minnesota is a good bit further away from me. We're talking about an 8 hour drive that just transformed into a 21 hour drive. But, I'm still fine with it because I really like her.

Anyway, she moves to Minnesota, then a couple weeks after she disappeared for a couple days. I kept writing via messenger to ask if she was okay and she finally responded. She was in the hospital for a bad case of the flu. I was worried and kept writing her constantly to ask if she was okay. We were good for about another week, then she disappeared on me for 7 days or so. Her roommate picked up the phone and told me she found my girl unconscious on the floor with a temp of 104 and called an ambulance. I asked her roommate to keep me informed, she said she would but I barely got anything.

For an entire month, I received basically nothing. Her roommate ended up getting ticked at me because I was too "pushy." I wasn't trying to be. I was more worried than I had been in a long time. So, her roommate told me because I was being rude, she wasn't going to tell me anything anymore. I thought that was fairly immature considering someone's life was potentially hanging in the balance, but whatever.

Anyway, after 25 days or so, I finally hear from my girl. But only barely. She is laid up in the hospital unable to get out of bed on her own with a breating tube in. It broke my hear to hear that. For the next week or two, she talks to me sporadically. I do my best to keep everything lax because I am just happy she is back and survived. I had long been at the point where I figured screw the D/s crap, I just wanted to know she was well. I mean, what does D/s stuff mean if my little girl is sick? Her health was all that mattered to me and I told her that numerous times.

So, a couple weeks later, she is getting around on her own, getting back into work, etc. I write and we talk, at first like normal. But about a week after, she starts answering fewer times than she use to. A couple days, I get nothing from her at all. So I get a little pushy and she snaps back at me that typing is getting old and she needs real time. This kind of takes me aback a bit, because she knows my situation with money, but I can understand where she is coming from. I figured maybe she is thinking I am a fake or she doubts my intentions. So I do not come down on her.

Instead, I tell her I understand how she feels and I talk it out with her. I tell her it will be some time before I can come up because work is so hit and miss. She says she is disappointed. Her main arguement at that time was that she felt like she was torn between two lives. Her own, and what I wanted her to be. I had given her a couple rules to follow, which she willingly accepted. I never bent her arm or threatened to leave her if she didn't abide. I was more than flexible for her because it was just over the internet and I didn't want to seem like some fake idiot.

So I tell her, to ease the tension that I will not hound her over my rules. I told her she should concentrate on what she needed to get done in her work, as long as we stayed together, stayed in contact and everything was kept cool. I even offered her the option of letting her have her own "release" whenever she wanted. But she said no. She didn't want that. She wanted my control. She didn't feel right in her life without it.

I felt like I was getting very mixed signals. So, just to be safe, I did not give her any more rules and I ordered nothing from her. I merely wrote her everyday to ask how she was, how work was and if anything was on her mind that she wanted to discuss. A couple weeks went by and I started receiving fewer and shorter replies.

This brings us to about last week. I asked her about it. She said a lot of times she feels like there is no "us." That she isn't in a relationship. This pretty much threw me for a loop. I didn't know what to say. I had been typing and calling non-stop. She barely replied by text and answered my calls even fewer times. Her excuse for that was she doesn't get good reception in her new home. But I've called her a couple times when I know she is out and just getting off work, so she doesn't get in trouble, and still no answer.

She now says she is tired of typing. No more typing. She needs real time. I can respect how she feels. That is why I backed off any rules and orders in the first place. I even told her that. But now that isn't good enough.

So, despite all of this, I have been looking into taking a caretaking job, near her. I have even decided I can leave my obligations, my family, everything I've ever known behind to take a new job and have her. This is a huge committment for me. It is so far away, and I barely have the money to spend for travel in the first place.

Anyway, I don't know if it is the fact that she doesn't believe me, or thinks I'm an internet fake, or what. But she has now told me she can't wait forever. She has told me she "loved" me and even said once, the only reason she could ever be separated from me would be if she took a bullet and died. Now, OBVIOUSLY, that was "new toy" syndrome talking, but still, it hurts to have things said like that, then a few months later have her say she won't wait too much longer.

I told her that "true love" and connection was not something that could have a timer placed on it. I asked her if her "love" had a timer on it. She got defensive and said no. She said that she never placed a limit on her love for me but she could not wait forever. Talk about a contradicting statement. Never did understand that one.

I feel like I have gone from having a potential lifelong mate who understood me, to being on a time limit. I feel rushed.

She even said once that she was tempted to have a vanilla relationship and be unhappy for the rest of her life, because at least then the guy would be there and be able to hold her and be together. I told her that even if she didn't want to wait for me, that making herself unhappy for the rest of her life was purely stupid. She should at least look for another Dom, if she wanted to ditch me. But she said she was "upset and crying" and had to go to bed. So I let it drop. Again. Figured she was having hormone problems or maybe menstruating (not trying to be sexist. I have a Mom and 2 sisters and know what it can do to attitudes). So, I never pressed it.

Anyway, I haven't had voice contact with her for at least two months. Barely had typing response. I know that if a long distance relationship is going to work, CONSTANT communication is key.

I don't even necessarily blame her. I blame me for not being able to see her. I am down on myself because I feel like I have blown it. But circumstances have literally been out of my hands at times. Like, I just lost 3 weeks worth of work on an insurance job I had started because I was undercut by another guy. Times are tough and brutal. I was counting on that money because I was finally going to visit her. Now I have to scrap for something else.

That is why I was willing to leave everything I knew and take a job in a foreign place. Near her, if I could. Or away from her, but as long as the set-up allowed me to bring her too, then it was fine.

But lately, she hasn't been too receptive. I told her I was working my ass off to come see her, and she responded "I'll believe it when I see it." I could understand that response IF I had told her I was going to do something before and crapped out on her, but I never have. I have never gone back on my word with her, so I am very confused as to why she would doubt me.

Also, tonight she said she is going out with friends. I asked her if she would be drinking, and she said a little. Now, that was one of my original rules for her. No drinking alcohol unless I said she could or in the future if she was in my company. Alcohol can be fun, but it dulls senses and responsibility, and I don't like thinking about it. Her out with other guys. I told her I trust her and to be smart. If only for her own sake, be smart. I don't want her hurt. Not that way.

I told her this, and that I didn't like it. But since I have not been able to be there, she has recently told me that she can't "put her life on hold anymore." She acts as though she has been chained to her bed awaiting my every text. Like I said, I have barely received a reply from her lately. I haven't known if she was home, out, at work or wherever. And, as I have said so many times before, I have laid off all rules and orders. Haven't issued one to keep tension down.

I told her she had better write me tonight because we need to talk via phone. She has assured me she isn't cheating. And I did not outright ask that, because I have hinted at that before (when we first met and I didn't know her well) and she got worked up about it. So, I promised her months ago that I would never doubt her honesty in that area again. And I have never brought it up since. But she willingly offered the info up tonight that she wasn't cheating. I guess she thought I was doubting her.

Anyway, like I said, I blame myself largely for this. I am a strong proponent of the Dom carrying the majority of the responsibility in this dynamic. To protect his girl, provide for her, love her. And I haven't been able to visit her. Still, I was honest with her about my money situation, and I guess I expected a little more patience and understanding from her. I've never lied. My assumption is she spoke largely out of turn with her devotion and "submission", and now she feels more comfortable blaming me for the lack of contact than admitting her own rush job of things.

And what really burns me is the fact that I stayed with her the entire month she was unconscious in the hospital. Because this is online, who says I wasn't having doubts that she was just trying to ditch me? But I stayed true to her, and she came back when she got better. I wonder now if I disappeared for a month if she would have showed the same dedication...

I don't know. Just feeling a little down. Not sure why I even wrote this. Just feels good getting it out there, I guess. Just wanted to hear other opinions. Even if you think I'm an ass and am dead wrong, let me know. I can take it. I'm a big boy. Or if you think I'm a complete idiot for trying something long distance, you can say so. It's been said before.

Have a good week end everyone. Best wishes.
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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 9:12:35 PM   
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You kept an online only relationship going eight months.  No a bad feat at all.

You're 25, not planning on relocating, not planning on moving out from your parents' place.  I doubt that you will be able to make a relationship work unless it's with a local.

So meet some locals and see if they'd be up for a little kink.  At your age, with so few social opportunities locally, I'd bet that there'd be a lot of young ladies willing to experiment.

IMO your relationship died due to the newness wearing off for your young lady.  She's got opportunities in MN that are a lot easier than waiting for some guy across the country.



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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 9:20:50 PM   
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Quite honestly, I would cut her lose. She's playing a guilt trip on you and you are falling for it.

If she wants real time so badly, tell her to come to you and get a motel room. She does not have to stay with you. You can even offer to reimburse her AFTER she arrives and get's the room.

Either way...I would still dump her. Playing the guilt card and trying to force you to choose between your family and her...that's just not right.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 9:22:56 PM   
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all young love thinks that love has no timer.

Sorry but it does.

Without real time interaction, without touch,  physical attraction in person, without seeing and speaking face to face, there's  no way a relationship can work for long. What you both had was lust and bdsm newbie syndrome.

It wore off faster for her than for you.

Like DarkSteven said, with your life commitments  you're better off looking locally.


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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 9:29:47 PM   
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Oh wow. I think it's doomed. :(

You seem like you have, if nothing else, a good heart so I'm trying not to be a glib jackass about this. But look, the way I'm reading the situation is that you're both desperate people. You have a life that's full of responsibility and work and obligation and not very much that's fun and you're looking for a distraction without a tangible physical commitment because, let's face it man, it's been five months and I know life gets in the way and all that but you've had enough time to work out the logistics of a weekend together somewhere. I'm just being candid here, you've had more than enough time to at least set a definite date for getting together.

She's looking for an escape. She wants a real life somewhere and the way she wants to get that real life is to have someone integrate her into their life. I don't know if there's anything innately wrong with that urge--I mean I think it's probably futile and self-destructive but I honestly don't want to judge--but it's something you can't provide for her right now. You've been honest about that and it sounds like she's put you on the back burner. I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you've pretty obviously been Plan B'ed with extreme prejudice. By now you should have been able to arrange a trip, but on the other hand how hard would it be for her to pick up a phone or send more IMs if you were still her primary interest?

To be honest if you two ever had a real chance at working out, it sounds like it ended when she went to Minnesota. I don't think there was much you could have done at that point. Then there was all that drama which, by the way, Jesus man, it sounds like you came off as ridiculously needy and pushy through that whole deal which is not exactly the sexiest side a man can show a woman. Once her roommate got irritated or creeped out or whatever I think that was probably the last straw. It's all been empty gestures and maintenance and misery since then, yeah?

It's probably time to cut your losses. It sounds like she's already cut hers but hasn't really had the guts to tell you yet. Don't hold that against her, it's very hard to say "Hey, it's over, and PS maybe it was never really there at all," especially when you're still young and vulnerable and scared. So I think that part is up to you.

You straight up do have my condolences but I don't think this was ever a viable situation.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 10:02:30 PM   
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I think all of you have made some very valid points. Most of them I think deep down I've known myself. They have nagged at me for awhile, but I didn't want to admit them because I'm human and had hopes it would work.

Steven, I never said I live with my family. I rent a place with several other people. It can be a zoo at times. Not quite a steady environment for myself, much less for her. I am very close to my family. I have dinner with them every weekend. And I am willing to relocate. I have just made that decision and sent out several resumes for caretaking/property management positions in the western and northern states. And I only knew her for five months, one of which she was totally unconscious and we never talked. So only four then?

littlewonder, you make a good point, one that I was hesitant to admit to myself. Deep down, I know love does have a timer with no physical contact, and I am in no way claiming that I loved her. I cared for her, most definitely, but I am not going to claim at all that I have any experience with love. I am young, and I know it. But I have always been responsible. People who know me have told me I'm like a George Bailey. I usually put others before myself and responsibility and my word are basically the law. I don't falter from either or ditch them. What my main complaint was that if she had started feeling this way, she should have let me know sooner. One week, she tells me she doesn't want me to stop things like rules and control, then in a matter of a week or two, she's singing a completely different tune. And like I said, I had stopped anything D/s because I wanted to keep in contact with her and because I liked her as a person, not just a sub.

Parappa, I know what you're saying. I think I acted a little desperately. I'm mature enough to admit that. But, I've already become accustomed to the fact of not having her. It's been easy since we haven't been in contact that much. One thing I have that I'll always have is my art, which has helped me through a lot of things. With or without her, I know I'll get along. I'm not all that broken up, I guess. I don't want to sound like a cold hearted bastard, but I have things I want to accomplish, and if we don't work out, then I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

I don't know about needy, but I was definitely pushy, because she was in the hospital and I wasn't receiving any word on her condition. I wrote for days and never got a response. Then one morning, I wrote that I was getting pissed that I wasn't getting any updates. Magically, her roommate responded to that text, but none of the others before it. She told me since I cussed at her, she wasn't going to give me any updates. That is the long and short of it.

I'm not necessarily trying to defend myself, but I have recently had to help take care of my grandmother in her passing days. Lung cancer. We had hospice called in and I was there helping care for her when she died. So, forgive me, but I was a little wigged when next I found out my girl was in the hospital, unconscious with a temp of 104.

But that was also my feeling. If I meant that much to her, why couldn't she pick up the phone when I called? Something simple like that can mean so much.

Thanks all for responding. Have a good week end.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 10:39:34 PM   
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Also, with regards to age, I know that most young people fall into the same category. That kind of comes with the territory. I know that. It doesn't really bother me. I'm use to being the "young guy" in a lot of situations.

But, I do believe there are exceptions to the rule. Where age is only a number and has nothing to do with anything. My mother was 16 when she married my Dad, and he was 23. Her parents had to sign a release paper. But, they have never been in dire trouble. Never threatened to get a divorce. They have been happy and stayed together. The only arguements they've ever really had have been over money problems, but they have always resolved them within a couple days.

And I know plenty of guys over 50, from work and playing sports, who are less mature than my 12 year old cousin. I think age does have something to do with it to an extent, but not always. Just my opinion.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/3/2011 10:49:53 PM   
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She was gone when she didn't get ahold of you during her "illness". They allow cells phones in hospitals now. I had one in my bed. Even before i had one, I had my friend text N half way around the world to keep him abreast. I didn't want to have him worrying sick. I was fairly critically ill.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:21:04 AM   
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Anyway, after 25 days or so, I finally hear from my girl. But only barely. She is laid up in the hospital unable to get out of bed on her own with a breating tube in
I have been in the medical field for a long time and have yet to meet the person who can talk when they have a breathing tube. Grunt, maybe....but that is about it.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:28:05 AM   
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Yes, I know they allow cells. Toward the end, when she woke up, she did write me from her bed. Never during the day though. Always at night. She said she had tests and stuff during the day and was resting a lot. I didn't push it because I assumed she was being truthful. Plus I felt bad.

I tried calling several times, but she never answered. One day she wrote me after I called and said I had to stop doing that. She said I got her in trouble and the nurses were taking her cell phone away because of the noise the ringer was making. It was a disturbance.

Even if she couldn't talk on it because of hospital policy, I asked her why she didn't just put the phone on vibrate? Problem solved, right? And she's no idiot. That's one of the things I liked about her. She seems to think about what she says.

She never did answer that one, but told me they were confiscating her phone. She said the nurses said she had 10 minutes to say goodbye to whoever she was talking, then they were taking it. Granted, this was about 45 minutes after I called, so the thing should have been taken 30 minutes ago.

Then I was told goodnight. And that was it for the evening. Talk about feeling suspicious. Anyway, I've already admitted I pretty much screwed up. Didn't want to use my very functioning brain because I guess maybe I was blinded by youth or whatever, like littlewonder said.

Still, I am no disillusioned idiot. I know very well how to work extremely hard and what it takes to start and maintain a family, which is what I want. And what she has said she wanted. I could never get involved with someone just to experiment or whatever. There has to be a shared, long term goal for me to invest any time. She and I have talked about that.

And I am sure lust had a part to play, on both parts. I know it did for her, and I'll admit it did for me as well, but that was not the primary driving force for me. If you just compared her superficially to other women, and took all the other things away from her that I liked, she was attractive, but if I were looking for a lusty "screw" buddy based on looks alone, I would not have chosen her. It is because of the other things about her that I grew to like her more, and the more I found out, the more attractive she became to me.

She knows I am looking around for work. I found a couple places actually in Minnesota, but nothing is set in stone. I've already made up my mind I'm going to take one of these jobs, her aside. So, I asked for her address, several times, and never got one. But just last week she finally gave me an area code, so I know about where she lives.

I asked why she didn't give me her full address, and she said because I wasn't ready to come right away. Now, this is just after she attacked me for needing real time and the whole she can't wait too long bit and all that garbage.

Now, this may sound stupid, but even though I know at this point there is a 99.9% chance that we are not going to work at all, I still don't think she was lying to me about everything. Some things, maybe, but I still think she was in the hospital and all. And I definitely don't blame her for needing real time. That's what I want. Messenger relationships are fairly stupid, I'll admit and very unfulfilling, but it's all we had to keep in touch. Figured she's understand that.

Anyway, I know I could write her, cuss at her or whatever and just end it, but I don't want to handle it that way. I want to push her into a corner, and "out" her so to speak, so that if it does end, she is the one who ends it and she can't blame me for "stealing" 5 months of her life and ditching her or something like that. I think I'm going to push the address thing hard and see what she does. But here's my question, what if she does give me her address and says she still wants me to come up right away?

What if I do land one of those jobs in Minnesota or nearby? In the end, I'll make my own decision, because unfortunately I'm hard headed and always do, but since I feel like I haven't been the smartest egg recently, wondering if any of you had any suggestions?

And do you all understand what I mean and why I feel that way? About wanting to make her make the decision? Is that stupid? Have a great week end everyone. And thanks.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:30:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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Anyway, after 25 days or so, I finally hear from my girl. But only barely. She is laid up in the hospital unable to get out of bed on her own with a breating tube in
I have been in the medical field for a long time and have yet to meet the person who can talk when they have a breathing tube. Grunt, maybe....but that is about it.


That's my fault for not clarifying. I "heard" from her meaning she typed me. That's how I found out she had a tube. I offered to call and she said she couldn't talk because the tube. I know you can't speak with a tube in. My grandmother had one. My fault.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:37:14 AM   
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Quite honestly, I would cut her lose. She's playing a guilt trip on you and you are falling for it.
If she wants real time so badly, tell her to come to you and get a motel room. She does not have to stay with you. You can even offer to reimburse her AFTER she arrives and get's the room.

Either way...I would still dump her. Playing the guilt card and trying to force you to choose between your family and her...that's just not right.

I see the Guilt Trips and manipulative tactics very much at work in what was written! Then again, I'm pretty well broken in after a few years of going through similar, yet different, and intense crap myself. I too even suspended or back-off from D/s at times for similar reasons. Ummmm.. this is rather uncanny how some patterns are similar yet different.

The one big difference is that I would actually visit my Girl in person, because she lived 4 hours away. So it was easy enough for me to Gas up and go at times. Dude, I hate to say this... this does not sound good for you two one way or another. Sick or not sick.

Personally, I'd love to call Bullshit on her Roommates shitty Attitude as well. Something is really off, and it may just be their crappy bullshit perspective which I find rather rude.

I don't know what to tell you... other than perhaps you should either considering Ending it!! Or Actually meeting face to face for real. This LD land of the limbo business is clearly not working regardless of everything else going on.

Good luck.



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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:41:01 AM   
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Moving across the country to be with someone you've never met in the flesh is stupid. Not because she might be a scam, but because you've never met her. It would be stupid even your relationship was going well.

She wanted to move in with you after a few weeks, right? And when you refused to let her, she "happened" to get kicked out of the place she was living. You were supposed to ride in on your white horse and save her.

She tells you that she's moved to Minnesota, which just coincidentally happens to be a move in the exact opposite direction from you. Seriously, open up google maps and look.

She gets mysteriously ill and can't talk to you. Oddly enough, she forgets to give her contact number at the hospital. Also, she seems to have lost her cell phone, and this is one of the rare hospitals without wifi. Her roommate seems irritated at you, but not concerned. She comes up with reasons not to talk to you.

It's done. It's over. Let it go. Do not sacrifice your connection with your family for this girl.


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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:41:27 AM   
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Um, Darrc, after reading your last posts, it sounds like her "hospital stay" was a lie. She was in contact with more than one man, and decided to try one out in MN.  Come on, she has to know other friends she could stay with, not just one in MN.

The hospital stay was a ploy to gain time while she tried things out with the other guy.  If it failed, she'd still have you.  Things went well enough with him that she tried to tell you that she has a tube and can't talk, that she's discouraged from using a cell, roommate says you're too pushy, etc.  She's trying to be so much of a PITA that you'll break it off.  Meanwhile, you're trying to find ways to push her to break it off.

Dude. You're part of her past.  Move on.  50% of the world's population is female - won't be hard to find another.

And my sympathies.  I had a woman pull the hospital game on me too once.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:42:50 AM   
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WOW (edited to remove reply after reading last posting by OP)

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:45:19 AM   
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Also - are you really that far from DC? They supposedly have one of the strongest job markets in the country, there's a thriving kink scene where you could meet new people, and you could probably drive home on the weekends to see your sister.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:52:06 AM   
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It sounds to me like YOU aren't listening to her.  Even in your post it seems like you are blowing off what she is saying -- chalking it up to hormonal issues -- are you serious?  Dude, she is telling you that she is 1) lonely, 2) tried of typing and wants an actual relationship with someone who she can feel and knows is real, and 3) she doesnt believe you want to take this offline.

I can't blame her from what your post says.  The fact that she didn't have her friend call you when she went into the hospital is a big sign that she doesn't see you as a person in her life.  I don't think its a bad thing from her, but you aren't a tangible thing, if that makes sense.  Maybe in Minnesota, she is getting out and meeting people and is realizing that she needs someone offline rather than typing to someone online.  You say you would make all of these sacrifices for her, but then suddenly, you have another reason why you can't.  Online love does indeed have time lines, because online isn't a sustainable for years or even a year without ever meeting.  I am not saying moving together, i am talking about the little ability of touching, of feeling the chemistry, of smelling him, etc.  I am surprised you guys didn't have webcams going on. 

All in all, yes, its hard, i don't think she has really done anything wrong or did you wrong in any sense, i simply think she has realized that 1) you aren't coming or at least any time soon and 2) she realized she needs more than a voice and typing online as a relationship.  You really can't fault her for that.  Online allows people to create relationships in their head that aren't real, its easy to get connected emotionally and then suddenly the reality smacks you in the head saying wake up dummy, this is only a dream you are having. 

She isn't the bad guy here -- the circumstances and situation is for you both.  I think you should chalk it up to a lesson and move on and allow her to move on -- see if you can remain friends, and maybe one day you two can meet as -- the very least -- friends and simply enjoy each others company and if you aren't attached and she isn't, maybe their will be sparks that make it more when you both are situated differently.

She seriously may have thought what she felt for you was love but she may be starting to wake up and her stay in the hospital (if it was real) was the beginning of that when the guy she "loved" wasn't there with her.  In a situation like that, reality and actuality of a situation really does kick in.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:55:23 AM   
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Okay I need to be blunt with you here! Let me get this straight, she won't give you her address why again? This is a major red flag in a situation which is supposed to be a serious relationship!! Dude!! Seriously think about this and how fucked up it is! How the Hell are you supposed to send Cards, Letters, Flowers or Gifts if you wanted to? How the hell.. I'm mean WTF!! This just pisses me off how people hide behind bullshit excuses. Basically making you feel like it's abnormal or not right to have her address, just because this is BDSM land. Pfffftttt... FUCK THAT NOISE! Seriously, If I can't get basic human respect and consideration out of somebody on the VANILLA LEVEL!! there's no way in HELL I'm magically going to get it in a D/s level! Seriously!! This is screwed up even for Vanilla standards let alone for a D/s or lifestyle relationship!!


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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:58:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

It sounds to me like YOU aren't listening to her.  Even in your post it seems like you are blowing off what she is saying -- chalking it up to hormonal issues -- are you serious?  Dude, she is telling you that she is 1) lonely, 2) tried of typing and wants an actual relationship with someone who she can feel and knows is real, and 3) she doesnt believe you want to take this offline.

I can't blame her from what your post says.  The fact that she didn't have her friend call you when she went into the hospital is a big sign that she doesn't see you as a person in her life.  I don't think its a bad thing from her, but you aren't a tangible thing, if that makes sense.  Maybe in Minnesota, she is getting out and meeting people and is realizing that she needs someone offline rather than typing to someone online.  You say you would make all of these sacrifices for her, but then suddenly, you have another reason why you can't.  Online love does indeed have time lines, because online isn't a sustainable for years or even a year without ever meeting.  I am not saying moving together, i am talking about the little ability of touching, of feeling the chemistry, of smelling him, etc.  I am surprised you guys didn't have webcams going on. 

All in all, yes, its hard, i don't think she has really done anything wrong or did you wrong in any sense, i simply think she has realized that 1) you aren't coming or at least any time soon and 2) she realized she needs more than a voice and typing online as a relationship.  You really can't fault her for that.  Online allows people to create relationships in their head that aren't real, its easy to get connected emotionally and then suddenly the reality smacks you in the head saying wake up dummy, this is only a dream you are having. 

She isn't the bad guy here -- the circumstances and situation is for you both.  I think you should chalk it up to a lesson and move on and allow her to move on -- see if you can remain friends, and maybe one day you two can meet as -- the very least -- friends and simply enjoy each others company and if you aren't attached and she isn't, maybe their will be sparks that make it more when you both are situated differently.

She seriously may have thought what she felt for you was love but she may be starting to wake up and her stay in the hospital was the beginning of that when the guy she "loved" wasn't there with her.  In a situation like that, reality and actuality of a situation really does kick in.

angel


Angel...has a good point here from another perspective at looking at things! It's what was crossing my mind at first until I read what I did about the games in giving you her address. Either way, things don't sound nor look good for you two.

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RE: Am I reading this wrong? My fault? - 6/4/2011 4:58:55 AM   
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Next time someone wants to visit you, say yes. Just snuggle at home, and beat her ass in the woods or the back of the car.

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