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SilverMark -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:19:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam " I'll grant ya that. Only 83.7% were registered voters. It SUCKS that Herman Cain has only 7%. Until I find out bad news or some gets dug up, I could support that guy. Might anyway. They won't find any dirt on Mr Cain, he is a pretty squared away guy. His tax policy however will be so foreign to the rest of the voting population that he'll not win any primaries, unless he does it in Nw Hampshire. They have an independent streak there that is pretty unique. Hell, they elect Bernie Sanders on a regular basis!

SilverMark -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:20:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam " I'll grant ya that. Only 83.7% were registered voters. It SUCKS that Herman Cain has only 7%. Until I find out bad news or some gets dug up, I could support that guy. Might anyway. They won't find any dirt on Mr Cain, he is a pretty squared away guy. His tax policy however will be so foreign to the rest of the voting population that he'll not win any primaries, unless he does it in Nw Hampshire. They have an independent streak there that is pretty unique. Hell, they elect Bernie Sanders on a regular basis!

masternoname -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:24:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy When likely voters are polled I guarantee he will be behind Romney. Romney is going to have a hard time in the primary just as before. The Mrs family is full of far right fundies. Believe me when I say that voting block has an issue with the "Mormon" aspect of Romney. He has to navigate around that section of the party before he can get the nomination. I remember that people said the same thing about Kennedy...ya just never know do ya?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:33:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: masternoname quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy When likely voters are polled I guarantee he will be behind Romney. Romney is going to have a hard time in the primary just as before. The Mrs family is full of far right fundies. Believe me when I say that voting block has an issue with the "Mormon" aspect of Romney. He has to navigate around that section of the party before he can get the nomination. I remember that people said the same thing about Kennedy...ya just never know do ya? Catholocism isnt viewed as a cult though. And Kennedy actually lost, who knows how much being Catholic cost him.

flcouple2009 -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:34:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I dont think That would be the most accurate statement you made today. Since this is what I said quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 Romney is going to have a hard time in the *primary* just as before. Your reference here quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I think it will cost him a point or two in the general. doesn't really matter. Romney has to manage around the religious right to get out of the primary. The Mormon bit is a huge issue there. Many of them still view the Mormon Church as a cult. That's been one of the problems with the Republican Party catering to the fundies. They hold to much power since they do tend to vote in a block. It can have a negative impact on who makes it through a primary.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:41:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I dont think That would be the most accurate statement you made today. Since this is what I said quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 Romney is going to have a hard time in the *primary* just as before. Your reference here quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I think it will cost him a point or two in the general. doesn't really matter. Romney has to manage around the religious right to get out of the primary. The Mormon bit is a huge issue there. Many of them still view the Mormon Church as a cult. That's been one of the problems with the Republican Party catering to the fundies. They hold to much power since they do tend to vote in a block. It can have a negative impact on who makes it through a primary. No, it will not be a huge issue in the primary. The power of "the fundies" is vastly overstated by people like you who try to marginalize the entire party based on a minority.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 12:47:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy No, it will not be a huge issue in the primary. The power of "the fundies" is vastly overstated by people like you who try to marginalize the entire party based on a minority. This is a standard meme on the left, when they attempt to convince people to vote Democratic. Firm

SilverMark -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 1:17:46 PM)
Not much good data on Evangelicals as of present but history would show your claim to be a bit off Firm. http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v17n2/evangelical-demographics.html In the broadest sense, according to Gallup polls, the number of persons in the United States who described themselves as either Evangelical or Born-Again between 1976 and 2001 fluctuated between 33 percent and 47 percent with a reasonable estimate being 35 percent of the population or just over 102 million people in 2003.[6] There seems to be a small long-term increase in the number of people reporting themselves in this category with 34 percent in election year 1976 and 45 percent in election year 2000. Using a different methodology and set of definitions, Barna Research has found that 41 percent of the population identifies as Born-Again using a broad definition, but only 8 percent accept all the tenets in a list of strict conservative doctrinal beliefs.[7] When all Evangelicals were polled regarding their Party and voting preferences, some of the results were surprising. Not surprising is that almost half of all Evangelicals are Republicans, while only one-quarter are Democrats. Yet, the single biggest bloc (among all Evangelicals) in 2000 was non-voters at 52 percent, followed by Bush voters at 37 percent and Gore voters at 11 percent. Even among Republican partisans (comprising 47 percent of all Evangelicals), while 77 percent voted for Bush, 33 percent chose not to vote Seems they vote Republican or just don't vote. In the stuies you have to remeber that this also includes Menonites and a few other "differnt" types of religions, where the views are a bit off of what we think of when we use the term "Evangelicals".

subrob1967 -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 3:22:56 PM)
Unlike Liberals, who are easily impressed by whomever says what they want to hear? I guess Conservatives just have higher standards[;)]

Lucylastic -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 3:34:29 PM)
That would be it, yes Rob you are right LMFAO Bachman, Gingrich, Palin,et al ad nauseam all the most upstanding people in the world, statesmen and women of the future Americas best , be proud, stand tall, [:D][:D][:D]

flcouple2009 -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 3:48:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy No, it will not be a huge issue in the primary. The power of "the fundies" is vastly overstated by people like you who try to marginalize the entire party based on a minority. I see you've gone back to fantasy Island and taken Firm with you. Yes I remember in 2000, they were so unimportant W catered to them for the vote he needed. How quickly some want to forget.

Lucylastic -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 3:53:53 PM)
"Da plane boss Da plane( the keebler elf) [sm=alien.gif]

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 4:24:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic "Da plane boss Da plane( the keebler elf) [sm=alien.gif] This, from someone dumb enough to start a thread on the founding fathers rejecting evolution. lmao.

Lucylastic -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 4:43:12 PM)
stop sucking up

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 6:55:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA Top Reaction to Owner59's partisan, childish blathering -- "Unimpressed" [8\|] Impressed enough to respond...... Unimpressed enough to mock. [:D]

Hillwilliam -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/9/2011 9:42:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Unlike Liberals, who are easily impressed by whomever says what they want to hear? I guess Conservatives just have higher standards[;)] All the Right side has to do to run for office and say "I go to church every sunday and I'm against abortion" the votes roll in. WTF ever happened to qualifications?

FirmhandKY -> RE: Top Reaction to GOP Field -- "Unimpressed" (6/10/2011 7:58:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark Not much good data on Evangelicals as of present but history would show your claim to be a bit off Firm. http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v17n2/evangelical-demographics.html In the broadest sense, according to Gallup polls, the number of persons in the United States who described themselves as either Evangelical or Born-Again between 1976 and 2001 fluctuated between 33 percent and 47 percent with a reasonable estimate being 35 percent of the population or just over 102 million people in 2003.[6] There seems to be a small long-term increase in the number of people reporting themselves in this category with 34 percent in election year 1976 and 45 percent in election year 2000. Using a different methodology and set of definitions, Barna Research has found that 41 percent of the population identifies as Born-Again using a broad definition, but only 8 percent accept all the tenets in a list of strict conservative doctrinal beliefs.[7] When all Evangelicals were polled regarding their Party and voting preferences, some of the results were surprising. Not surprising is that almost half of all Evangelicals are Republicans, while only one-quarter are Democrats. Yet, the single biggest bloc (among all Evangelicals) in 2000 was non-voters at 52 percent, followed by Bush voters at 37 percent and Gore voters at 11 percent. Even among Republican partisans (comprising 47 percent of all Evangelicals), while 77 percent voted for Bush, 33 percent chose not to vote Seems they vote Republican or just don't vote. In the stuies you have to remeber that this also includes Menonites and a few other "differnt" types of religions, where the views are a bit off of what we think of when we use the term "Evangelicals". The problem is that not all Evangelicals wish to impose a theocracy, which is what the meme really is all about. Firm

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