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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 7:18:10 AM   
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OK! But that would require us to be in physical proximity . . . .


I long to be, close to you . . .

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 8:55:35 AM   
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While everything for me starts in the mind, of course, I LOVE being physically overpowered, held down, feeling the weight of someone on me, even struggling. That is why I like consensual force play, which I know many people here don't believe in.

If I am being mentally overpowered, as in he is saying things that alone can make me turn into a puddle, that is even better.

When I say the person can overpower me, I am not necessarily talking about brute strength; just his ability to take me over.




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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 8:58:21 AM   
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I never do the take down.  I just tell women about how great I am for hours until they get annoyed and give in. 

It works.


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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 9:05:29 AM   
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Wow what an insulting little thread this is turning into!

OK well skipping all the BS on who's a fuckwit, here's my 2 cents on the OP...

The man got into my head.  Slowly, gradually, wonderfully entered my skeptical mind, and, in fact, would NOT physically overpower me for some time.

That said, I do love the physical-ness. It's part of our mutual sexual enjoyment.  It's no more "role play" for us than him fucking me is.  I mean, if in the heat of passion the man wants to grab me by the hair, smack me across the face, and push me to the floor before getting himself off with my body, how is that any different than any other means by which a person achieves sexual satisfaction and orgasm?  May as well say sex itself is role play, yes?

For us, and I suspect for others as well, physical interaction is one way among many of expressing what we share within our dynamic together.  Whether it's kissing, hugging, fucking, beating, massaging, spanking, choking, stroking, or being so close you can feel each others energy without actually touching - - it's all various ways of interacting.  And I'm greedy - I like all of it.

We don't do the 'bratty vs. discipline" thing.  We just get really passionate and whatever happens, happens.  I tend to grab and claw and tear and bite and he slams me back - not because he doesn't want me to express myself naturally like that, but to save his skin from further wreckage  .  We're both very aggressive when things escalate to that level, so he needs to be able to "man-handle" me.  Sometimes, being dominant does mean the ability to physically dominate another.  The Mister mentally, emotionally and physically dominates me, which I am grateful for.




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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 9:26:32 AM   
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hooray for Nueva for being on topic! and i couldn't agree more with your post

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 9:57:09 AM   
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There's a topic here, let's find it please. For those who need visual aids:

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 10:14:36 AM   
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for me, it is about the strength; strength is a turn-on for me. =p but without a mental connection, i'm not going to stick around long enough to let him throw me anywhere. =p just because someone expresses or responds to physicality doesn't mean that that person also doesn't appreciate mental stimulation/connection. if it doesn't work on the mental level, the physical level will never happen with me. 

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 4:16:21 PM   
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Seriously, Otters, for me it's all in the feelings that I see in her, rather than the brute manifestation of them. You remember those films with Sophia Loren, all blazing eyes and sweaty heaving chest? *That's* what does it for me, when it comes to physicality in a femdom. In a nutshell: it's not her actual wrestling me to the ground that matters, it's seeing her desire to do so.



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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 6:19:46 PM   
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In a nutshell: it's not her actual wrestling me to the ground that matters, it's seeing her desire to do so.




that's a great bit of it, too!!! ^.^


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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 6:43:10 PM   
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Heh. I thought so.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that seeing this 'desire to ravage' is the major part of what gets the subs for both sexes and of both Dommes and Doms all steamed up when it comes to physicality.

I was thinking earlier of an article I once read about Rudolph Valentino. In his day, he was considered almost shockingly sexual. 'It's all in his eyes', was the common - sometimes approving, though also frequently critical - remark. But it was the look of his passion that did it for the lady cinema-goers, not any muscularity involved. There was very little of that in those days, anyway. The censors forbade it, of course.

Now here's a question for the femsubs here. Who would rather have between your sheets: Mr Poet, with his slim build but his passionate eyes and mouth, or Mr Muscles, who could throw you around? Cos each one of those has been well-represented as male screen idols over the years.

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 6:50:19 PM   
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Now here's a question for the femsubs here. Who would rather have between your sheets: Mr Poet, with his slim build but his passionate eyes and mouth, or Mr Muscles, who could throw you around?


If limited to just those two choices, I'd pass.  I like strength of character, coupled with strength of body.


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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 10:24:08 PM   
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men who claim to be doms, and men who are doms.
i don't think, for the purposes of our discussion, there's a real difference. i mean what you consider a real dom and what i consider a real dom will be different, and both those will be different again from what lilly does. as far as i'm concerned anybody who says they are a fucking dom/domme is. that doesn't make them a good dom/domme, but it makes them one. a shitty dominant is just as much a dominant as a good one. its a matter of fucking degrees. an intelligent dom will rely on far more than just physically dominating some cunt, a stupid one won't. if he's got no fucking brains, then he's got no choice, does he?

and in my experience most doms don't have the fucking brains to find their way out of bed without a fucking map and written directions. in my time as a painslut-for-hire, i probably dealt with more individual male doms than most girls on here, so i'm fucking well going to stand by my conclusions.


hannah lynn


Well I think that is the crux of it right there, if you are dealing with men that need to pay to play, rather than a male dominant that can achieve dominating a strong intellectual feminist woman using his own skill-set of dominance, prowess and intellect. Not his cash.

As a feminist and an occasional switch, I can tell you that I have been fortunate enough to meet so many awesome men that I feel lucky.  I don't deal with the assholes that send me the "kneel bitch" cmails or send cock shots or demand pussy pics or any of the fucking nonsense so that is probably why we have vastly different experiences on this matter.

I also vehemently disagree that just because someone tags themselves with the Dom label they are one, even if they are a bad one as you stated. Calling yourself so doesn't make it so. There are far  to many HNG's that are so far from being a Dom it's laughable. I set my standards high in all of my relationships, from friendships to finding a Dom or someone for me to top,  so I am rarely disappointed.

I get where you are coming from and jesus I hate to use the "age" argument, but when I was in my 20's and even 30's I had the uber femnist chip on my shoulder in regards to men and  found it did not serve me well. The whole "when you know better you do better" analogy isn't entirely a fallacy. I enjoy your thought provoking commentary for the most part and please don't think I am being patronizing I'm not.  

If anything I usually have to convince him that I crave more physical restraint and less mental fuckery if you will, because he is adept as hell at a good mind fuck and sometimes I just crave a good throw-down. He is college educated, quite successful and nothing the rednecks that it seems unfortunately you have encountered. That sucks but again it is a pay for play situation so it has no bearing on an actual D/S relationship which I hope a lot of women would choose a worthy male partner for. I mean if you have a negative outlook on men from the start and also enter into a non personal financial play scene they are in no way similar, so combine that with being a lesbian with a less then positive opinion on the male gender..um yeah, I doubt any Male Dom will suit your needs.

Sorry for rambling I just ended a 13hour bartending shift on the busiest Monday night ever I am dead tired and brain dead, I hope this made sense.


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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 10:32:19 PM   
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Wow what an insulting little thread this is turning into!

OK well skipping all the BS on who's a fuckwit, here's my 2 cents on the OP...

The man got into my head.  Slowly, gradually, wonderfully entered my skeptical mind, and, in fact, would NOT physically overpower me for some time.

That said, I do love the physical-ness. It's part of our mutual sexual enjoyment.  It's no more "role play" for us than him fucking me is.  I mean, if in the heat of passion the man wants to grab me by the hair, smack me across the face, and push me to the floor before getting himself off with my body, how is that any different than any other means by which a person achieves sexual satisfaction and orgasm?  May as well say sex itself is role play, yes?

For us, and I suspect for others as well, physical interaction is one way among many of expressing what we share within our dynamic together.  Whether it's kissing, hugging, fucking, beating, massaging, spanking, choking, stroking, or being so close you can feel each others energy without actually touching - - it's all various ways of interacting.  And I'm greedy - I like all of it.

We don't do the 'bratty vs. discipline" thing.  We just get really passionate and whatever happens, happens.  I tend to grab and claw and tear and bite and he slams me back - not because he doesn't want me to express myself naturally like that, but to save his skin from further wreckage  .  We're both very aggressive when things escalate to that level, so he needs to be able to "man-handle" me.  Sometimes, being dominant does mean the ability to physically dominate another.  The Mister mentally, emotionally and physically dominates me, which I am grateful for.





Yes this mainly is how we operate too Neuva. Sometime though I get so revved up that even though I don't want to nor care to, I forget my head for a minute and have been known to give his face a wicked slap on the heat of passion. It is in no way me trying to provoke or be bratty its just fucking hot in the moment and usually he overlooks because I know he enjoys my impulsive act of raw power. I don't push my luck often though...obviously


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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 10:46:39 PM   
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Yes this mainly is how we operate too Neuva. Sometime though I get so revved up that even though I don't want to nor care to, I forget my head for a minute and have been known to give his face a wicked slap on the heat of passion. It is in no way me trying to provoke or be bratty its just fucking hot in the moment and usually he overlooks because I know he enjoys my impulsive act of raw power. I don't push my luck often though...obviously



Hi Aynne,

I've asked him if I should be more aware and tone it down.  He said he wants what comes naturally from me, and he'll handle it (and he does).  I'd classify it as primal, rather than bratty, because it just comes from within and I'm hardly aware I'm doing it...as opposed to doing it intentionally to garner a reaction.

Sometimes we crack up the next morning as we're looking at our "wounds" in the mirror together.  I'll laugh and say "Oooh I got you GOOD this time!"  hahaha...of course, THAT'S kinda bratty (er, playful) and makes him laugh, followed by a smack to the ass.

Doesn't happen all the time, but enough to notice.


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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 10:49:30 PM   
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Absolutely that! I agree completely. 

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/13/2011 11:30:34 PM   
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aynne baby, i agree with pretty much all of what you said. you've met lots of wonderful doms, but how many of the fucking assholes have you passed on or ignored? the ignored pile is a shit load bigger isn't it? so your experience isn't really all that different, you just avoided having to play with the assholes, believe you me, i wish i could have as well.

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I also vehemently disagree that just because someone tags themselves with the Dom label they are one, even if they are a bad one as you stated. Calling yourself so doesn't make it so. There are far to many HNG's that are so far from being a Dom it's laughable.
the reason i take any self proclaimed dom (or domme or slave or sub, or whatever) at their word is because there is no way to define what is and what isn't a dom (or whatever else). the best you can do is define the sort of dom you want, its not that the others aren't doms, their just not the dom for you.

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I get where you are coming from and jesus I hate to use the "age" argument, but when I was in my 20's and even 30's I had the uber femnist chip on my shoulder in regards to men and found it did not serve me well.
i really want to address this, because a lot of people have the wrong impression, but i don't want to hijack this thread, so i'll start a new one.

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so combine that with being a lesbian
psssst, i'm not a lesbian. heather is, but i'm bisexual. but i'll deal with that in the other thread as well.

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/14/2011 12:11:50 AM   
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Thank you all for not replying to Hanners right away, I get the keyboard for a while!!
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I also vehemently disagree that just because someone tags themselves with the Dom label they are one, even if they are a bad one as you stated. Calling yourself so doesn't make it so.

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the best you can do is define the sort of dom you want, its not that the others aren't doms, their just not the dom for you.
OK, before I go check out other threads, I just wanted to make a comment about this. I think Hanners is right (and no not because she told me to say that!). I'll explain my reasoning. Most of the Dommes on here I have a lot of respect for, and I admire most as well. There's a few that I find really sexy and that I'd like to get into bed with. But I don't really think of them as Dommes. They aren't my type of Domme, basically they aren't Hanners. That doesn't make them not Dommes, right? Just because somebody doesn't match my idea of what makes a "real" dominant doesn't mean they aren't a dominant.

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/14/2011 12:13:22 AM   
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While everything for me starts in the mind, of course, I LOVE being physically overpowered, held down, feeling the weight of someone on me, even struggling. That is why I like consensual force play, which I know many people here don't believe in.

If I am being mentally overpowered, as in he is saying things that alone can make me turn into a puddle, that is even better.

When I say the person can overpower me, I am not necessarily talking about brute strength; just his ability to take me over.




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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/14/2011 4:59:34 AM   
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the best you can do is define the sort of dom you want, its not that the others aren't doms, their just not the dom for you.


Just because somebody doesn't match my idea of what makes a "real" dominant doesn't mean they aren't a dominant.

Does that make sense?


Aye.

I said it in jest originally, but a lot of people in my life have told me things along the lines of not being able to see me or take me seriously as a dom, and I can see exactly what they're getting at. I'm very much not an immediately dominant person, it's part of me that generally doesn't take the stage unless I'm in the process of dominating somebody. It was irritating when I first started hearing that, but it's for that reason that I'm not particularly concerned - a lot of people don't think I'm a dom, but those that matter to me dom, often because they've seen the internal gear shift that happens to me.

I'm not a 'real' dominant. I am by no means 'twue'. I'm still dominant.

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RE: Let's Get Physical! - 6/14/2011 5:07:43 AM   
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aynne baby, i agree with pretty much all of what you said. you've met lots of wonderful doms, but how many of the fucking assholes have you passed on or ignored? the ignored pile is a shit load bigger isn't it? so your experience isn't really all that different, you just avoided having to play with the assholes, believe you me, i wish i could have as well.

quote:

I also vehemently disagree that just because someone tags themselves with the Dom label they are one, even if they are a bad one as you stated. Calling yourself so doesn't make it so. There are far to many HNG's that are so far from being a Dom it's laughable.
the reason i take any self proclaimed dom (or domme or slave or sub, or whatever) at their word is because there is no way to define what is and what isn't a dom (or whatever else). the best you can do is define the sort of dom you want, its not that the others aren't doms, their just not the dom for you.

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I get where you are coming from and jesus I hate to use the "age" argument, but when I was in my 20's and even 30's I had the uber femnist chip on my shoulder in regards to men and found it did not serve me well.
i really want to address this, because a lot of people have the wrong impression, but i don't want to hijack this thread, so i'll start a new one.

quote:

so combine that with being a lesbian
psssst, i'm not a lesbian. heather is, but i'm bisexual. but i'll deal with that in the other thread as well.

hannah lynnand




Yep you got me  there, the ignore pile of douchebags is wayyy bigger. . Also sorry, I forgot it's the other way around on the lesbian thing, I was typing half asleep.

I still don't think that some woman abusing unconcensual stalker internet perv wanna be is really a Dom, no matter how badly they want to be, but I think we are just talking semantics here and actually agreeing in theory. A lot of men suck, I can only imagine the ones that pay for a painslut suck uber bigtime. Sometimes when I am bartending and some married  lecherous oh so not funny but trying to be comedian douchbag is irritating the living fuck out of me, I want to lean across the bar and stab him in the eye with a bamboo skewer. . Money. It makes that not happen. I can dig what you are saying.


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