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Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 8:53:59 AM

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I am straight and my best friend is gay. I know he is in love with me. He has always been eager to do anything I wanted. It has been fun for me to make him do things he doesn’t like and judging by the bulge in his pants he likes it too. I have always done things like spit in his mouth when we play wrestled, made him wear my dirty clothes, put chewed food in his mouth and it always gets him hard. It usually gets me excited when he obeys, but not necessarily turned on. About 5 years ago I decided I was gonna get him to drink some of my pee. He didn’t like that. I just wanted him to do a shot. We talked for a while. I told him how much it would mean to me if he could do that for me. I could see he was hard the whole time and would make little touches to his cock. I told him to take it out and give it a few stokes. I grabbed his wrist and jerked his arm a few times then stood back. He looked at me so begging I knew I had him. One shot of pee and I would let him cum in front of me or he had to pull up his pants. I got a shot glass from the kitchen, filled it in the bathroom and set it on the table in front of him. He grabbed it and downed it right away. I had him get on his knees and stood in front of him. I wanted him to cum on my command. I really liked having this much control over the guy just because he was totally into me. He was jerking like mad. I held his head in my hands a little and rubbed his hair. I tilted his face up and looked in his eyes and said “cum now.” He whispered “Yes master”. I don’t think he ment to call me that, but now I knew how he thought of me. I have used the jerking off in front of me trick a lot. He is now so obedient to me it is awesome. He accepts that I can punish him anytime I want and that if he is very obedient he might get to cum.

We have never had any kind of sex, he has never been allowed to watch me jerk and I have only shot my load on him 6 times. He really is my best friend and my slave. Here is the problem. I know he jerks off a lot when he is alone and thinks of me when he does. But I don’t really want him fantasizing about me. That is really making me angry. I want to start keeping him in chastity, so that the only time he gets to cum is in front of me and with my permission. I jerk off a lot too and do have a girlfriend. I am going to be taking away his ability to date someone and to masturbate. Is it too mean of me to keep him like this? Or is this OK to a sub guy? I don’t want to lose him as my slave or my best friend.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 9:09:17 AM

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Is it too mean of me to keep him like this? Or is this OK to a sub guy? I don’t want to lose him as my slave or my best friend.

You must first realize that all no one sub guy, or sub girl for that matter, is ever made from the same cloth, so what may be mean for one will be heaven for another.
Since none of us know your best friend, it's unlikely any of us can answer this.
Ask him.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 9:44:55 AM

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So in other words, you're gay.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 11:09:23 AM

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Bisexual at the very least.....

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 11:29:35 AM

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Oh, just send him to me, I'll take him to places where he is guarenteed to forget you. LOL!
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Seriously:

I'm confused. You write "he has never been allowed to watch me jerk and I have only shot my load on him 6 times" Um.... how do you shoot your load on him, but he's not allowed to watch?

That very minor point aside, you are sending mixed signals - to him and to us and TO YOURSELF.

You write "But I don’t really want him fantasizing about me. That is really making me angry." So you play your games and tricks on him. Are you suprised that he is fantasizing about you? <== Rhetorical question.

And then you ask the board whether you should "up your game" through chastity. Do you seriously think that doing chastity play is going to decrease his level of fantasy about you? <== 'Nother one of dem der rhetorical questions!

And best of all, you write "I am going to be taking away his ability to date someone [else]" Yeah, like that will move his fantasy away from you.
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In this instance you KNOW that you are just helping develop / increase / excaberate / improve / continue the situation that you claim is bothering you. MAN UP! Either figure out in your OWN head what you want your relationship with this man to be, or.....( I guess my first line was NOT an LOL!) send him to me.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 11:31:17 AM

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BTW: very nice wank material. LOL!

ETA: Thanks!

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 11:51:27 AM

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OP, it's between the two of you to decide what is acceptable or not.

In the meantime, I can't say I've met very many straight men who were so focused on whether or not their friend's cock got hard. Heck, I'm a straight female and if I'm not interested in somebody's cock, I wouldn't care one way or another if it was erect.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 12:00:11 PM

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FR>>I have had gay slaves and I am straight as an arrow,its all about service and submission nothing more nothing less..B

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 12:48:06 PM

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I am straight and my best friend is gay.

Are you sure? Be honest here. You don't sound particularly straight.

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I know he is in love with me.

I don't know of many straight men who know that their best friend is in love with them and who still feel comfortable with the friendship. At a minimum, you're probably bi.

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It has been fun for me to make him do things he doesn’t like and judging by the bulge in his pants he likes it too. I have always done things like spit in his mouth when we play wrestled, made him wear my dirty clothes, put chewed food in his mouth and it always gets him hard.

Once again, how many straight men do you know who do this? You're sharing food, playing dress up, and staring at the bulge in his pants. How would you describe that behavior? Hint: gay.

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About 5 years ago I decided I was gonna get him to drink some of my pee. He didn’t like that. I just wanted him to do a shot. We talked for a while. I told him how much it would mean to me if he could do that for me.

Ummmm, how many straight guys have conversations with their buddy about drinking their pee. Particularly when the carrot is that it would mean a lot to you. Clearly there is an emotional attachment between the two of you that is not platonic.

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I could see he was hard the whole time .

There you go staring at his cock again.

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I told him to take it out and give it a few stokes.

Does this sound like straight behavior to you? Really?

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I grabbed his wrist and jerked his arm a few times then stood back. He looked at me so begging I knew I had him. One shot of pee and I would let him cum in front of me or he had to pull up his pants. I got a shot glass from the kitchen, filled it in the bathroom and set it on the table in front of him. He grabbed it and downed it right away. I had him get on his knees and stood in front of him. I wanted him to cum on my command. I really liked having this much control over the guy just because he was totally into me.

And it sounds like you're equally into him.

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He was jerking like mad. I held his head in my hands a little and rubbed his hair.

Once again, how many straight guys do you know who do this?

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I tilted his face up and looked in his eyes and said “cum now.”

Back when I was still playing college basketball, we used to do this to one another in the locker room all the time. NOT!!!!

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We have never had any kind of sex

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Do you really think that we believe that?

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he has never been allowed to watch me jerk and I have only shot my load on him 6 times.

How do you shoot your load on him without him being allowed to watch you jerk off?

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He really is my best friend and my slave.

Correction: I think that should say, "He really is my best friend and lover".

Frankly, I don't have a problem with gay/bi men. But I do have a problem with gay or bi men who are in denial about their sexuality. You're clearly gay (or minimally bi). So acknowledge that and stop pretending to be straight when even Stevie Wonder can see that you're not.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 1:20:03 PM

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How do you shoot your load on him without him being allowed to watch you jerk off?

Oh come on! Even I could figure that one out. Blindfolds.

Or maybe the slave lays on his stomach and the Master jerks off on his back?

Or maybe he just orders the slave to close his eyes?

Go-o-olly folks, I am very unimpressed with your imaginations here.

And OP, come out of the closet. Take it from me, its a lot easier, its scary at first, but so much simpler and easier to just accept who and what you are.

Good luck, with both your girlfriend and your boyfriend.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 1:29:12 PM

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How do you shoot your load on him without him being allowed to watch you jerk off?
Oh come on! Even I could figure that one out. Blindfolds.

Or maybe the slave lays on his stomach and the Master jerks off on his back?

Or maybe he just orders the slave to close his eyes?

Darn, why didn't I think of that? Now I'm starting to reconsider whether the OP is actually gay.

Nah, he's definitely gay!

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 1:38:19 PM

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Definitely gay.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 3:03:18 PM

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I didn't really think of my sexuality mattering that much. I do love the guy. Every now and then I do get hard while playing with him, but not always. How I have cum on him but, without let him watch me jerk is: I shot on his back when he was kneeing in front of me, on his chest with my boxers over his head a few times, once while he was already passed out and my favorite was in tent while we were camping and it was pitch dark I think I came all over his face.

I want him to be happy, he wants me to be happy. It makes me happy when he obeys me and my control makes him happy. I started letting him cum for me because I wanted to reward him. I knew he would like that more than he didn't want to do a shot of pee. It seemed like a fair trade. But after he called me "Master" I knew the trades didn't have to be so fair anymore. He obeys me because he wants please me, not because he afraid of me. I think that is cool as hell. If I ask to do something he doesn't want to all I have to do is act a little disappointed and it wont be long before he brings it up himself. I do like watching his internal struggle before he gives in. I guess I don't like about him jerking off thinking about me is what he could be thinking. I don't want him thinking about having sex with me, I just want him thinking about obeying me. I know if I tell him I want to put him in chastity for a while he will do it. At least the first time. I wasn't sure if this was going to be asking too much of him. It seems like we are both pretty happy now and I don't want to fuck it up.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 3:31:19 PM

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This says better anything I possibly could:

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 3:38:38 PM

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I dont understand.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 3:39:45 PM

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So in other words, you're gay.

This.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 3:50:00 PM

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I dont understand.

A shocker; he's confused.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 4:18:10 PM

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Ok... would it be horrible if you were bisexual?

And if so why?

Sexuality and sexual preference is complex and can be fluid.

I suggest you take a look at this and assess yourself honestly, realising that there is no right or wrong, there is only how you feel.
http://www.bisexual.org/kleingrid.html

The other thing to think about is that if he is in love with you and you are not in love with him... that is okay if he is aware of your status and understands it is not going to change.
However, many people hold onto the hope that maybe it will change some day, and that can create great pain.
In the first case he may be aware and it may or may not make him sad in moments, in which case your friendship can probably survive...in the second case, eventually he will probably become angry and resentful and your friendship may not survive that.

The other thing to have an awareness of (and I am not saying you are doing this but your OP really suggests you might be at times), is are you exploiting his feelings of love for you so you can push forward on your BDSM/control games?
If so, given that your romantic feelings are non-reciprocal, do you honestly think that is fair?
I know in D/s dynamics that what is "fair" is not always what is equitable but how would you feel if you were somehow in a romantic situation and the situation were somehow reversed: You are in an unrequited love situation and would do absolutely anything for your beloved and she exploited that to the max?

You want to keep your best friend and your slave.
If you had to make a choice, which is most important... and is his answer the same?

edit: typo and clarity

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 4:20:29 PM

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I know he jerks off a lot when he is alone and thinks of me when he does. But I don’t really want him fantasizing about me. That is really making me angry. I want to start keeping him in chastity, so that the only time he gets to cum is in front of me and with my permission.

You don't want him to fantasize about you, but you want him to cum in front of you? What do you think is going through his mind when he's cumming in front of you? Do you really not know?

At the very least, if you are truly straight, you are taking advantage of the situation and stringing him along. How would you feel if a dude did that to your sister? What kind of man do you think that guy is? That's the kind of man you are.

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RE: Straight Master with gay slave - 6/13/2011 4:40:44 PM

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quote:

NocturnalStalker
So in other words, you're gay.

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LanceHughes
I'm confused. You write "he has never been allowed to watch me jerk and I have only shot my load on him 6 times" Um.... how do you shoot your load on him, but he's not allowed to watch?

That very minor point aside, you are sending mixed signals - to him and to us and TO YOURSELF.

You write "But I don’t really want him fantasizing about me. That is really making me angry." So you play your games and tricks on him. Are you suprised that he is fantasizing about you? <== Rhetorical question.

And then you ask the board whether you should "up your game" through chastity. Do you seriously think that doing chastity play is going to decrease his level of fantasy about you? <== 'Nother one of dem der rhetorical questions!

And best of all, you write "I am going to be taking away his ability to date someone [else]" Yeah, like that will move his fantasy away from you.
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"Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer, but wish we didn't." Erica Jong

In this instance you KNOW that you are just helping develop / increase / excaberate / improve / continue the situation that you claim is bothering you. MAN UP! Either figure out in your OWN head what you want your relationship with this man to be, or.....( I guess my first line was NOT an LOL!) send him to me.

The ^^ are thoughts I had, but the two gentleman already wrote them down, better than I would. M

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