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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 8:25:51 PM   
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and  yes-   2 of the guys in the group homes had siesures.  In case you wondered. 

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 8:35:23 PM   
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Which means the man was not going to drive a car.    THINK.  Someone having seizures is not physically going to get back into a car and drive it.  It can not be done while in the state of seizure.
Where the hell did that come from?? Nothing I read indicated that the man had a seizure.


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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 8:38:56 PM   
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C'mon, WyldHrt, you know arguing with pahunk is useless. You'll never ever get anything close to a direct answer from him. He'll keep throwing out vague what if's and random assertions that have nothing to do with the reality of what happened, but will be impossible to refute.

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 8:41:00 PM   
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I know, I know...



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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 8:53:10 PM   
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Which means the man was not going to drive a car.    THINK.  Someone having seizures is not physically going to get back into a car and drive it.  It can not be done while in the state of seizure.
Where the hell did that come from?? Nothing I read indicated that the man had a seizure.



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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 8:59:23 PM   
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Master your Google-foo, Hunk. I'm tired of trying to explain something that you obviously both do not understand and don't want to

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 11:27:38 PM   
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My Uncle was epileptic, but refused to take medications to control his seizures & he refused to wear an id band or any information at all on his person that identified him as an epileptic & subject to Grand Mal seizures. So one day, decades ago, he has a seizure in downtown Seattle near Skid Row. The cops get called & he ends up in the drunk tank. Because what else were they supposed to think?

My family all got up in arms because he was treated like a "common drunk", of which there are quite a few in the family. I said if he didn't want to be treated like that until they could figure out what was really going on with him, perhaps he should keep something on him that told people that he was an epileptic. But he was ashamed of his physical ailment, so he wouldn't ever tell anyone. He'd rather sit overnight in the drunk tank than tell.

If I ended up acting that erratically & a police officer was afraid of what I might be going to do next, I would expect the police officer to use whatever force is necessary. So, yeah, if it was me, it would be ok for the cop to tase me.


If I had the condition- I would wear some kind of ID tag.    



The point was that he didn't. So that's how he got treated until someone could figure out what was wrong with him. Just like the guy in this scenario.

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/15/2011 11:29:28 PM   
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You still haven't answered my question, Hunk.

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The cop might have offered first aid.

and likely gotten the first aid kit shoved up his ass.
Hunky, please perform a behindular craniectomy on yourself and listen to what people are telling you.

You have obviously never had to deal with a situation like this, but some of us have. People in the condition this man was in do not know that they are having a medical emergency and can be both unreasonable and violent. It is not their fault, but many an EMT has gone off shift with a black eye or worse after dealing with a diabetic emergency, and that is often when we know that the person is diabetic!




Which means the man was not going to drive a car.    THINK.  Someone having seizures is not physically going to get back into a car and drive it.  It can not be done while in the state of seizure.



OMFG!!!! That is the funniest thing that you've written yet!!! You aren't reading what others are writing are you? This is too much fun in the middle of the night. Thank you!!!!

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 4:49:07 AM   
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PA, what you aren't realizing is you are looking at the situation KNOWING the guy was suffering from diabetic shock.  The cops AT THAT TIME, did not know anything other than he was acting aggressive, wasn't listening to what they were ordering to do and kept trying to get back into the car. 

There is a HUGE difference between you making a judgment call AFTER the fact, and the cops making one before.

You would NOT offer medical assistance to a guy who was acting as this guy was if you were a cop or i doubt even a bystander. 

You are absolutely correct -- police are there to serve and protect and that is exactly what they did. 

The guy wouldn't listen to pull over his car, he crashed into a yard that could have had people in it etc, he wouldn't listen when ordered out of the car, he was acting aggressive and he was trying to get back into the car.

THAT is why he was tasered and restrained.  He was NOT tasered and restrained because he was suffering from diabetic shock.  Once they were able to get close enough to him and observe him in a closer situation they identified what was wrong with him and acted appropriately for that.

It's easy to say well he was suffering from diabetic shock when you KNOW what was wrong with him.  They didn't and that is the part you seem to keep missing. They acted appropriately for the situation they were involved in.

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 5:10:59 AM   
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Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock


Think you can get em to swing by my house this morning with the Post Stanley Cup Taser?

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 5:17:14 AM   
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Every officer that carries a taser must be taser'ed as part of their training.


Laz... My older brother worked in the tactical div of SS for like 25 years, just retired in fact. I think they got those things about 10 or 12 years ago and they had to do that for training. He said the 'training' went on for months "every couple of shift changes"
I imagine that, ..."Okay guys, I'll see you tomorrow" ...Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzap!

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 6:15:22 AM   
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Someone having seizures is not physically going to get back into a car and drive it.  It can not be done while in the state of seizure.

You're confusing diabetes with epilepsy.
Hypoglaecemia varies between acting erratically and failing to interpret your situation correctly (the milder end) and collapsing into a coma (and in extreme cases, stopping breathing).
Now, if they needed to use a taser on this gent to stop him acting up, which end of the scale do you think he was occupying?

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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 6:18:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis


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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis

My Uncle was epileptic, but refused to take medications to control his seizures & he refused to wear an id band or any information at all on his person that identified him as an epileptic & subject to Grand Mal seizures. So one day, decades ago, he has a seizure in downtown Seattle near Skid Row. The cops get called & he ends up in the drunk tank. Because what else were they supposed to think?

My family all got up in arms because he was treated like a "common drunk", of which there are quite a few in the family. I said if he didn't want to be treated like that until they could figure out what was really going on with him, perhaps he should keep something on him that told people that he was an epileptic. But he was ashamed of his physical ailment, so he wouldn't ever tell anyone. He'd rather sit overnight in the drunk tank than tell.

If I ended up acting that erratically & a police officer was afraid of what I might be going to do next, I would expect the police officer to use whatever force is necessary. So, yeah, if it was me, it would be ok for the cop to tase me.


If I had the condition- I would wear some kind of ID tag.    



The point was that he didn't. So that's how he got treated until someone could figure out what was wrong with him. Just like the guy in this scenario.

Tags aren't always obvious (or even helpful), in any case. There's a story about a chap who collapsed wearing an id bracelet with "diabetes" engraved on it, and the person who found him saying "Well, he don't look Greek, but he should be safe sleeping it off there..."


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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 8:12:37 AM   
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Angel,  Moon,  Wyld,  thank you for trying to explain it to me.



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RE: Police Tase Driver Suffering From Diabetic Shock - 6/16/2011 8:20:51 AM   
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