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Musicmystery -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 7:37:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


EXAMPLE

Your pulling that "victim" smear out of your ass

"low behavior"

An observation


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So...your posts are observations, everyone else's are low behavior.

Hmmm.


If it hits that much of a nerve, perhaps something to consider.

You've moved pretty far from the original point.




Sanity -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 7:42:23 AM)


It was a direct answer to your post... [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


EXAMPLE

Your pulling that "victim" smear out of your ass

"low behavior"

An observation


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So...your posts are observations, everyone else's are low behavior.

Hmmm.


If it hits that much of a nerve, perhaps something to consider.

You've moved pretty far from the original point.




MrRodgers -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 7:44:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Pretty simple concept: Democrats (when they're in power) don't care about civil rights or wars. Republicans (when they're in power) don't care about deficit spending or free market concepts. They only start caring once the "other guy" is the perpetrator.


Well said

Except for a couple of things...most dems take over an economic mess from the previous repub. admin. Problem is, it's all orchestrated by the continuing partisan function and...the bankers. You see forasluts, the big bankers know now beyond all doubt...they can do anything they want, get clean away with it and will never suffer a loss.

Recall it is the repub's first priority...FIRST priority is not the country. not the economy, not civil rights, not wars, not deficit spending or free markets [sic] and by agenda not the people. Their first priority is to make Obama a one-term pres. The repubs operate under the Rush Limbaugh directive...'they want to see the pres. fail.'




Musicmystery -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:09:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
It was a direct answer to your post...

Let's take a look then.

Your first post...
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
All part of the leftts mob mentality

Hate hate hate

Pretty typical of you...note that it could apply to any thread, as it's topic-less.

After five attacks (25% of the posts were yours, all going after other posters), here's my first post, noting the irony in the quoted portion...
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Nah, hateful people in threads like that one dont rent any space in my head


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Going by your posts, actually you think of little else but, to the point of an obsessive game.

...specifically, claiming you don't rent space to people in your head, but clearly occupying your morning with exactly that. And naturally, you added a fresh attack:

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Why would I care, to anyone of intelligence none of you are to be taken seriously.

Example -

You are supposed to be a Taoist. So tell us which of the three keys of your divinely inspired religious beliefs inspired that particular dig at me.

Compassion, moderation... or humility?


Hmmm. Lots of fresh trolling added there. But as I pointed out, this is the game you play --

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Case in point. You live to go after things. It's your hobby. If a post is innocuous, you'll add some silly spin so you can play victim and lash "back."

It's an observation, not a dig, and one well supported day in and day out. One wonders what you're doing that's so boring you've nothing better to do.

You also misunderstand Taoism, incidentally, as it has nothing to do with the divine and is thus not a religion in the Judeo-Christian sense.

But since you asked, it's a moderate view, compassionate from the standpoint of watching someone continually twisting unnecessarily, and offered objectively rather than as a judgment, and only when the topic arose, not from arrogance.

Where you came upon this trio is another mystery. But there you have it.

And from there, the silly round of "digging" -- appropriate for the OP subject, but you made it about you, even when I turned it back to the OP...

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
The premise of the thread is a dig...


True. But she's a political candidate, not a poster here. And the "dig" has disturbing evidence to support her lunacy.


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Your posts directed at me were digs


Do you play the victim this absurdly in real life?

I have to believe that your posts here are a game you play. Why, I can't imagine.


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

By the way.....looking for the content you've contributed to this thread......

But seeing only digs.

Ya know?

Count the number of posts you've made in P&R that did not start with some version of "Well, but you...."

It's a short list. But then, that's your game.


And from there a big circle. Of the 17 posts you've made so far on this thread, all of them are attacking other posters, while crying that you're being attacked. Yes, I'd consider that playing the victim.

But then, that's your game. When I offered solid content, clearly not going after anyone, you simply ignored it. Didn't fit into your game, even though it addressed one of your swings:

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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hating Conservative public figures as intensely as the left habitually does


You know, this isn't actually true.

William F. Buckley Jr. was a great mind and a thought provoking critic.
George Will, though sometimes carried away, often makes me think, even if I disagree generally.
Ronald Reagan, whose *policies* I can't support, was undeniably a nice, generous, well-meaning (if clueless at times) man.
William Safire is among my favorite writers--articulate and well-spoken, carefully constructing his cases.
Milton Friedman was one of my first economic heroes, especially for his pioneering understanding of monetary phenomena.
Even Richard Nixon, who I *fervently* oppose on several fronts, especially the criminal ones, was no idiot, and was in many ways (forever tainted by his considerable misdeeds) a great president.
Those are just the ones that come to mind quickly.

But the modern "conservative" movement -- in quotes because it's often really not conservative but rather (1) reactionary, (2) actively in many cases pursuing the replacement of our current system with a theocracy, (3) not interested in defense, but rather military conquest, and (4) fiscally reckless, pursuing unrealistic and unsustainable economic agenda. In fact, today's conservatives would make the movement's founders shudder in horror.

Further, such all or nothing tactics as they're pursuing today only further poison an already poisonous atmosphere, seeking not solution, not improvement, not common welfare and the good of the nation--but power, for its own sake. And they had it, briefly, from 2000-2006, but blew it pursuing a permanent majority, only to find while often gullible, the American public is not going to stand for one party rule. The conservative moment to shine was tossed aside.

But in short, no, a group that elevates "leaders" like Bachmann is nothing to take seriously, except to ensure their influence is limited.

Perhaps in time conservative extremists will be quieted, and strong conservative values will once again find voice. I hope so. I think the nation would be healthier for that voice, among others.


Naturally, you won't agree. But that's the history here.





thompsonx -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:29:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Pretty simple concept: Democrats (when they're in power) don't care about civil rights or wars. Republicans (when they're in power) don't care about deficit spending or free market concepts. They only start caring once the "other guy" is the perpetrator.


Well said

Except for a couple of things...most dems take over an economic mess from the previous repub. admin. Problem is, it's all orchestrated by the continuing partisan function and...the bankers. You see forasluts, the big bankers know now beyond all doubt...they can do anything they want, get clean away with it and will never suffer a loss.

Recall it is the repub's first priority...FIRST priority is not the country. not the economy, not civil rights, not wars, not deficit spending or free markets [sic] and by agenda not the people. Their first priority is to make Obama a one-term pres. The repubs operate under the Rush Limbaugh directive...'they want to see the pres. fail.'



My position is that beginning with jefferson there seems to be little difference between the actions of the two parties. They are more interested in who is in charge rather than what is accomplished...they both shit in the same bucket and not a nickles worth of difference between the two...the whigs morphed into republicrats and the republicrats morphed into demopubs.




juliaoceania -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:49:28 AM)

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Why would I care, to anyone of intelligence none of you are to be taken seriously.

Example -

You are supposed to be a Taoist. So tell us which of the three keys of your divinely inspired religious beliefs inspired that particular dig at me.

Compassion, moderation... or humility?


Actually, I see some of those traits in MM's posts, I see none of them in yours...

You just wildly go around shrieking about leftists and hate and accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a hating leftist... it is really rather tiring




juliaoceania -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:51:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The difference is that this thread is a dig at a public figure.

A public figure that is running for the White House




mnottertail -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:52:20 AM)

And is of doubful terrestrial birth.




juliaoceania -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:56:00 AM)

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Bzzt, you fail

Again, that was me making an observation about your low behavior

If you want to know what someone acting like a victim looks like, follow julia around for a few days


I know, I know, you rightists think that just by repeating something over and over again, it will magically become truth

Tell me, sanity, are you defending Bachmann's honor because you think she is attractive, or is it because she has something meritorious to defend. If you think she has good positions, why not defend them instead of attacking us.




juliaoceania -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:58:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And is of doubful terrestrial birth.



LMAO... men are from Mars, women from Venus... where is Bachmann from?




Musicmystery -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 8:59:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And is of doubtful terrestrial birth.

[:D]




mnottertail -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 9:00:12 AM)

Can't wait to see that birth certificate.   Some say shes from Iowa, down by LT which is to say......... 




MrRodgers -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 9:16:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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Pretty simple concept: Democrats (when they're in power) don't care about civil rights or wars. Republicans (when they're in power) don't care about deficit spending or free market concepts. They only start caring once the "other guy" is the perpetrator.


Well said

Except for a couple of things...most dems take over an economic mess from the previous repub. admin. Problem is, it's all orchestrated by the continuing partisan function and...the bankers. You see forasluts, the big bankers know now beyond all doubt...they can do anything they want, get clean away with it and will never suffer a loss.

Recall it is the repub's first priority...FIRST priority is not the country. not the economy, not civil rights, not wars, not deficit spending or free markets [sic] and by agenda not the people. Their first priority is to make Obama a one-term pres. The repubs operate under the Rush Limbaugh directive...'they want to see the pres. fail.'


My position is that beginning with jefferson there seems to be little difference between the actions of the two parties. They are more interested in who is in charge rather than what is accomplished...they both shit in the same bucket and not a nickles worth of difference between the two...the whigs morphed into republicrats and the republicrats morphed into demopubs.

Well, yes parties started to form around the Federalists, Hamilton's baby centered around and favoring corporatism and capitalism (scumbag) plus the formation of a central bank. Jeffersonians formed the get this kinkroids...The Democratic-Republican party. Ain't that a hoot. Even though most identify Adams as a federalist he too was against both...leaving Hamilton virtually on his own as the rest of our founders also hated both. They had seen and been victimized by the crown, the corp. and the Bank of England.

The so-called conservative movement was usurped by the Bushes and there you have it. Obama must follow his major policies. Now that the US economy is totally corrupt and we have their plutocracy, there is only work around the edges such as war profits, dealing the Taliban for pipeline. Leaving a few 1000 in Iraq etc. Demagoguery, lies, propaganda will rule the debate and before anyone even sees it...capitalist fascism comes to America.




Sanity -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:06:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
It was a direct answer to your post...

Let's take a look then.

Your first post...


That doesnt follow, MM. It was a direct answer to the post that it followed, not the post you are trying to connect it to for reasons only you could know.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
All part of the leftts mob mentality

Hate hate hate

Pretty typical of you...note that it could apply to any thread, as it's topic-less.



That was in direct response to julias post, its odd that you feel you can score some cheap points by jumping around this way and quoting me out of context

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After five attacks (25% of the posts were yours, all going after other posters), here's my first post, noting the irony in the quoted portion...
quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
Nah, hateful people in threads like that one dont rent any space in my head


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Going by your posts, actually you think of little else but, to the point of an obsessive game.

...specifically, claiming you don't rent space to people in your head, but clearly occupying your morning with exactly that. And naturally, you added a fresh attack:



None of my posts were meant as personal attacks, but if you are upset because I effectively argue my political ideas I will take that as a compliment

The reason I spent an hour here this morning is that I enjoy jokes such as this one, your devoting the time it took you to make this in which you blindly lash out at me... in which you refer to me as "obsessive"  [:D]

There are a few other reasons that I post as well, but no - I honestly do not for one second concern myself with what individuals such as yourself or your associates write about me, for the exact reason I posted earlier, and is requoted below. The level you constantly find yourselves sinking to does your ideology far more harm than good in my opinion, and if you are taking all of the time that you do to come after me because of the observations I make then I am obviously doing a lot of things right


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Why would I care, to anyone of intelligence none of you are to be taken seriously.

Example -

You are supposed to be a Taoist. So tell us which of the three keys of your divinely inspired religious beliefs inspired that particular dig at me.

Compassion, moderation... or humility?


Hmmm. Lots of fresh trolling added there. But as I pointed out, this is the game you play --



"Trolling"  was what I was rebutting, specifically your trolling in which you spun the trollish words

"Going by your posts, actually you think of little else but, to the point of an obsessive game. "

If you cant handle the rebuttal MM, then quit trolling. Quit attempting your low personal attacks, and come up a level or two (or three or four) in your posting.

Youre supposed to be a Taoist, either take that off of your profile or become a lot more spiritual. The way you act now is a disgrace. to the religion, and it is unbecoming.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Case in point. You live to go after things. It's your hobby. If a post is innocuous, you'll add some silly spin so you can play victim and lash "back."

It's an observation, not a dig, and one well supported day in and day out. One wonders what you're doing that's so boring you've nothing better to do.

You also misunderstand Taoism, incidentally, as it has nothing to do with the divine and is thus not a religion in the Judeo-Christian sense.

But since you asked, it's a moderate view, compassionate from the standpoint of watching someone continually twisting unnecessarily, and offered objectively rather than as a judgment, and only when the topic arose, not from arrogance.

Where you came upon this trio is another mystery. But there you have it.

And from there, the silly round of "digging" -- appropriate for the OP subject, but you made it about you, even when I turned it back to the OP...



No, my understanding of Taoism is good. There is absolutely an aspect of the divine in Taoism as it has pantheistic roots... perhaps its your understanding of Taoism that is... lacking. 

And nowhere did I write that its "a religion in the Judeo-Christian sense"

Further, you are here constantly yourself, so casting that stone belies a sort of desperation on your part in furthering this present senseless guttural attack

Go meditate on that for a while

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
And from there a big circle. Of the 17 posts you've made so far on this thread, all of them are attacking other posters, while crying that you're being attacked. Yes, I'd consider that playing the victim.


Thats a lie


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
But then, that's your game.



Youre projecting

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
When I offered solid content, clearly not going after anyone, you simply ignored it. Didn't fit into your game, even though it addressed one of your swings:



Dont feel too put off if I dont respond to your every post, that I dont stalk you as so many leftists here stalk mine

I really dont put that much stock in the things you write

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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hating Conservative public figures as intensely as the left habitually does


You know, this isn't actually true.

William F. Buckley Jr. was a great mind and a thought provoking critic.
George Will, though sometimes carried away, often makes me think, even if I disagree generally.
Ronald Reagan, whose *policies* I can't support, was undeniably a nice, generous, well-meaning (if clueless at times) man.
William Safire is among my favorite writers--articulate and well-spoken, carefully constructing his cases.
Milton Friedman was one of my first economic heroes, especially for his pioneering understanding of monetary phenomena.
Even Richard Nixon, who I *fervently* oppose on several fronts, especially the criminal ones, was no idiot, and was in many ways (forever tainted by his considerable misdeeds) a great president.
Those are just the ones that come to mind quickly.

But the modern "conservative" movement -- in quotes because it's often really not conservative but rather (1) reactionary, (2) actively in many cases pursuing the replacement of our current system with a theocracy, (3) not interested in defense, but rather military conquest, and (4) fiscally reckless, pursuing unrealistic and unsustainable economic agenda. In fact, today's conservatives would make the movement's founders shudder in horror.

Further, such all or nothing tactics as they're pursuing today only further poison an already poisonous atmosphere, seeking not solution, not improvement, not common welfare and the good of the nation--but power, for its own sake. And they had it, briefly, from 2000-2006, but blew it pursuing a permanent majority, only to find while often gullible, the American public is not going to stand for one party rule. The conservative moment to shine was tossed aside.

But in short, no, a group that elevates "leaders" like Bachmann is nothing to take seriously, except to ensure their influence is limited.

Perhaps in time conservative extremists will be quieted, and strong conservative values will once again find voice. I hope so. I think the nation would be healthier for that voice, among others.


Naturally, you won't agree. But that's the history here.






I didnt write historically, MM, I am discussing the state of mind of leftisst currently (though the left rioted under Nixon, with flareups before as well as since his time especially in the wider context of the worldwide far left ideologues).

Here in the USA specifically the far left has been acting like a crazed hateful mob (in conversation as well as in actual mobs)  since the day it was announced that Bush had won Florida  vs. Gore

You see it in Hate Palin thread after Hate Palin thread

Recall in your mind all the Hate Bush threads we witnessed through the 2000s (and still do see on occasion).

Recall the RNC convention in 2004, the raging leftist mobs that converged there.

Now look at the title of this one, is Bachmann really a Nazi as the thread title suggests, as a particular Union leader accused

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/16/union-leader-calls-new-jersey-gov-adolf-christie-compares-pension-battle-to-world-war-iii-video/

You and your ilk are indeed like a possessed mob surging after one conservative political figure and then the next, and no - its not hateful or an attack on my part  to make that observation, nor to point out that these threads and the behaviors of leftists in them are hateful attacks, or that leftists on the national and international scene act more and more like deranged mobs every day, especially in light of the fact that thats exactly what how they are behaving.









mnottertail -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:13:42 PM)

And hate obama threads hourly by sanity, and hate this guy and that guy by sanity and so?




Owner59 -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:17:14 PM)

Michele is all about keeping the government out of our private lives......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f13Dj2HaRWg

Not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEajn-FLm3A&feature=related




Musicmystery -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:22:09 PM)

Looks like I hit a whole bundle of nerves.

Take time and reflect. There's a lot there.





Sanity -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:28:23 PM)


Youre projecting again

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Looks like I hit a whole bundle of nerves.

Take time and reflect. There's a lot there.






Musicmystery -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:29:15 PM)

Ah.




Owner59 -> RE: Michele Bachmann Isnt Stupid, Shes Dangerous (6/17/2011 12:31:10 PM)

Kudos, MM.




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