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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:00:50 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		I believe that your perception is of one person making a valuable contribution but I don't believe any one of our perceptions of a person necessarily makes that person somehow more valuable and therefore having a greater right to question other posters.

There is a lot of what is to me, worthless shit in P&R and, what forever will be for ME, the random stupidity area. In addition to the humour section. But I will NEVER say that just because a person posts there, primarily, makes them an over all less valuable addition to the forums. Not once.

So, in my opinion I do disagree that any one poster has more validity when bitching. That poster may be one of the most valuable to YOU, but not necessarily to anyone else.



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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:06:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		At the same time, when the site is overrun with childish insults, insults pointed at gender, age, or orientation... I don't want to be a part of that sort of conversation and I would disappear if those sort of posts became commonplace and acceptable.

I am okay with the label "thin skinned", but I prefer to look at it like this - I am attracted by some things, and repelled by others. I gravitate towards what I like, and I block what negatively impacts me. In my mind, the world is an energetic place, and I try to be choosy as to how I invest my energy.

I suppose I only have so much time for snark, and most of it is invested in P and R

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:09:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		So if a predominantly P&R/P&ORS poster started complaining that there wasn't enough wiitwd content on CM you wouldn't raise an eyebrow?

I think we're going to have to disagree - I absolutely believe that one poster can have more validity than another when bitching. Not necessarily based on whether I value what they post, but based on whether they're willing to put the effort into changing whatever problems they see.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:10:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wanted to take a second to say that I appreciate the nice comments that were said about Me.  Thank you very much.

On the matter of retention, I don't think you can compare a site like this to one such as Fet.  If you wanted to get a proper comparison, you'd have to be looking more to a site like Alt or Bondage.  The majority of new folks who join here do see this as a hook up site.  When they find out it's not, they split.  Don't just look up the numbers on the Introduction forum.  Try reading it.  There's a lot of spill over from the other side to here that honestly can't be ignored.

My impression of the retention issue is that it is higher for those who join this site who are already in either dynamics or those who have some prior BDSM experience.  The folks who didn't come here for the meat market angle are more likely to stay.  They also end up being the new folks who contribute better content.  Go back over this thread alone and examine what you see. 


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:11:56 AM   
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She starts more serious, content-heavy threads than anyone else I can think of right now. I've always been of the opinion that if you (generic) don't like the tone of the site or the content on the site then you either contribute to changing it or you shut the hell up.


Is that seriously the way you read my post?

Well, that was not what I said, but people tend to read what they want, not what is actually written

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:12:52 AM   
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You are playing knight in shining armor to this chick and I can't fucking figure out why, but if it makes you feel better, rock on.
For a couple of reasons, in descending order of importance....

1. Because I like the way she posts, both the language she uses, and the things she says. I think a lot of what she says is true and needs saying. I personally think she is an asset to the boards specifically because she does say the things she says. Her posts have made me think more than anybody else's in several years.
2. Because I think, in the post in question, she was right. In my opinion, you asked for it and she gave you what you had coming to you.
3. Because the post was pulled, so you continuing to whine about it is, in my opinion, childish and petty.
4. Because I know her personally offline and she's a friend of mine.




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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:14:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

So if a predominantly P&R/P&ORS poster started complaining that there wasn't enough wiitwd content on CM you wouldn't raise an eyebrow?

I think we're going to have to disagree - I absolutely believe that one poster can have more validity than another when bitching. Not necessarily based on whether I value what they post, but based on whether they're willing to put the effort into changing whatever problems they see.


The part I bolded is the important part of my point. Content cannot be judged to be more important for one, by another.

Example.......what is important for ME to take away from this site is very very likely going to be quite different than what is important for you to take away from this site.

The poster you mentioned, while quite valuable to you, has very rarely even caught my attention to my memory. That has nothing at all to do with whether or not they are valuable or a good person. It has everything to do with their threads or posts not often jumping out and striking any sort of chord within me.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:19:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with you about demographic retention. I don't know much about the message boards at either Alt or B. I still think the issue of thread content is central, and many people have already noted that change. I think BFA said it best: this site is currently just fun. Before it was both fun and meaty. That can be recreated, and it doesn't require getting David stein to post here. Imagine if someone said something off topic and ad hominem, and everyone knew that was wrong, just like black listing.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:33:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

So if a predominantly P&R/P&ORS poster started complaining that there wasn't enough wiitwd content on CM you wouldn't raise an eyebrow?

I think we're going to have to disagree - I absolutely believe that one poster can have more validity than another when bitching. Not necessarily based on whether I value what they post, but based on whether they're willing to put the effort into changing whatever problems they see.


I'd like to comment on this. As I see it, whether a person strictly posts in P&Rs or on Ask A master/Ask A Mistress, or any of the other sections, part of their own personality is reflected in what they write. This does not mean it directly reflects who they are as a person but just one facet of who they are as a person. At the same time it does not indicate what they have to contribute is less valid than a person who solely posts in the General section. Seems to me that rather someone trying to change the overall nature of CM, they change the tone of how they post instead.

Granted, as many will state, " This is just pixels on a screen," the point is all of us who do post here are a representation of the diversity of the human population exactly how we would find offline in our own communities in which we live in. Yes, there will always be a difference in opinions, views and attitudes between each one of us and also there will some who do act in ways which we personally feel is inappropriate or down right childish. Even from  my own past immature actions on these forums has taught me that I needed to remain as neutral as possible and also take into account that I am only responsible for my own actions and the words I offer up.


edited to add: no matter which section a person posts in, each post is valid and one is no more important than the other.


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:33:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I agree with you about demographic retention. I don't know much about the message boards at either Alt or B. I still think the issue of thread content is central, and many people have already noted that change. I think BFA said it best: this site is currently just fun. Before it was both fun and meaty. That can be recreated, and it doesn't require getting David stein to post here. Imagine if someone said something off topic and ad hominem, and everyone knew that was wrong, just like black listing.


Is not this thread a demonstration of 'meaty'?
I for one have lost an incisor taking a bite, and trying to keep track.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:37:44 AM   
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It has nothing to do with "dirty words" but again, Arpig knew that.
Really? Seems to me she told you to block her after you had spent several post whining and bitching about the way she posted. And the thread was locked because after the thread had been derailed into discussing Hannah's use of profanity and speculation as to her character and the Mod had warned people to get back on topic, several posters ignored the warning and continued anyway. And you are continuing to whine about her language and speculate as to her character and psychological state on this thread.

It would appear that you are the one with the issues here. You say you don't mind profanity? Fine, I won't censor myself...grow a set of fucking balls and stop whining like a God damned 6 year old. Grow up! It's just words on the fucking Internet!

Oh and your picture is really nice. Just a little to yellowy to my eye, it doesn't really do you justice. I suggest you pink it up a little in Photoshop and it will reflect your beauty better.





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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:38:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Absolutely. My point is that more of the threads related to kinky sex should be like this as well. The site is not about collarme, but bdsm.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:42:14 AM   
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I also don't care for the stroke-fest/bitch-fest that many threads turn into here.
And yet this thread is pretty much one big stroke-fest. Un peu ironique, non?

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:55:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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. Un peu ironique, non?

eh?

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:58:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Absolutely. My point is that more of the threads related to kinky sex should be like this as well. The site is not about collarme, but bdsm.
If folks take an interest in kinky sex threads, they will get as many ideas and replies as this one. To me, it seems to ebb and flow here.  I have to guess that this is because no one can discuss bdsm 24/7, as that would make them a one dimensional person.

I enjoy all of it, on any given day.  Some days I am more interested in silliness, some in deep discussions, some days kink. 

I just take what I want and leave the rest.  This is entertainment for me.  Should it ever stop being entertaining, and cause me to be upset about what others do here, I would quit coming back.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 11:59:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Absolutely. My point is that more of the threads related to kinky sex should be like this as well. The site is not about collarme, but bdsm.

The fact that this doesn't happen has nothing to do with moderation.  It has much more to do with the imbalance of males to females on the site and the fact that most posts directed in this area tend to be wank material.  The threads that are kink based have a much greater response rate when they are started by someone who has a higher familiarity factor.  Go read the Mistress forum.  Those of us who have been participating in these forums for any length of time *know* that we're going to be annoyed by horny pups in our mailbox when that happens and frankly, it isn't worth the bother.

The site really is Collar Me because it is more dynamic based.  It's not 'hey, let's talk about fucking'.  Even the BDSM discussion board has very little about bondage, discipline, sadism, and masochism.  It's crap like, "why do so many guys want to see a person on cam". 




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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 12:00:59 PM   
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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 12:03:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I also don't care for the stroke-fest/bitch-fest that many threads turn into here.
And yet this thread is pretty much one big stroke-fest. Un peu ironique, non?


Un petit peu.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 12:05:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was a very similar discussion in the Asian group recently. Any time an Asian woman posts, she generates multiple horny pm's on Fet. There is no doubt that suppresses participation, but it is not a feature unique to cm.

I won't post again until at least the end of the day, and maybe not again on this thread. I have tried to be as clear as I can.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 12:08:56 PM   
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There was a very similar discussion in the Asian group recently. Any time an Asian woman posts, she generates multiple horny pm's on Fet. There is no doubt that suppresses participation, but it is not a feature unique to cm.


But me so horny. 

Hey, there's gonna be folks like me who are just gonna do this no matter what.  No different than any of your kinks. 

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