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ranja -> RE: moderation interpretation? (6/20/2011 3:27:16 AM)
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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Why can't people just say what they want... indeed if you don't like it just block them or go somewhere else.
Join the exchange with enthousiasm i say, the less moderation the better in my book.
Sometimes blocking the offender is the best way of handling it, but then again, if the offender is disrupting the natural flow of conversation, moderation is necessary. The things that are in the TOS are the ones that have been shown to disrupt conversation, human beings being human beings.
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When a thread is not to your liking why not contribute to another one?
Unless gross illegal stuff is being talked about... why on earth would anybody complain to the mods about anothers opinion?
I think this shows a gross misunderstanding of how the moderation on this site works. I have not noticed entire threads moderated because of "opinions" because "opinions" within the TOS are not moderated.
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Why do certain people get away with things others don't?
That was explained by the mods on this very thread, unless of course you refuse to believe them.
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Why do threads get locked after it is considered to be out of hand, if things must be done then why not just delete the lot and let them start again... if anybody can be bothered?
Have you notice, the actions taken on trainwrecks vary based upon the trainwreck. It is a subjective decision made by human beings... since they are the human beings tasked with this subjective decision, my question to you "why don't you respect their decisions as having as much merit as your opinions about them""?
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Why are people on [awaiting approval] still allowed to post anything at all, that is just adding to the work load and totally unnecessary.
If had my way, people would just be moderated into silence. I think their [awaiting approval] status is disruptive to the flow of the thread... but that isn't a big deal to me, either.
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Why are there no CLEAR rules? it all seems to depend on the moderators own interpretation, and i have read the TOS (to be found in tiny letters in the bottom corner of the front page)... well it doesn't really tell you a great lot.
If there was no ambiguity in rules, we would not have a court system. Since being moderated isn't the same thing as being put in prison, we just have to rely on the judgment of the moderators... again, no biggie
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Why do some post get pulled, but then the responses to the post that was pulled remain up? That is just totally naf.
Why do posts with quotes of pulled posts get scensored so the pulled post that was quoted gets edited out, but the rest of the post in reply still stands?
... i mean what is the point of that, if the original post is gone, then surely the response does not matter a jot any more either, the whole thread just becomes even weirder then.
Because it is hard to edit a thread that is completely out of hand, and it is hard for me to sometimes understand the flow of threads as a participant, much less as someone who is coming into a 30 page thread filled with personal attacks that they haven't contributed to. It ain't perfect, but neither am I.
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Why is it possible but considered *not done* to respond to a three month old thread?
I think this is a norm that varies from site to site, but I can tell you, it is annoying to put a reply on a thread that was 3 years old that you contributed to originally in the middle of the thread.. it makes you feel stupid.
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Why are so many *old* posters allowed to totally rip new posters appart?
you have been here long enough to be considered an "old poster" and you have enough posts to justify that designation too....
I think that if you see something happening that is against TOS, it is really your responsibility to report it, or not to comment on it... have you reported it?
I think that you got your nose way bent out of shape by how your own posts were dealt with by management... and I think you know the common sense reasons behind why things are done here, but you just don't agree with it. Personally, if I am at someone's home, and their rules do not make sense to me, I either try to understand them or I leave.
Sorry Julia, i missed your post, thank you for responding
about point one: sometimes the *natural flow* is between two *offenders* who are totally capable of standing up for themselves and really nothing much else is happening on the thread... i fail to see why a good exchange so often gets referred to as a trainwreck
as for the other points thank you for trying to answer, but i really think the whole moderation is totally depending on whatever the mods decide its is going to be like.
None of us know how much gets pulled because the posts totally disappear, and none of us is here 24-7 and reads all the threads.
I simply do not think that is right at all.
Regarding this: "if there was no ambiguity in rules, we would not have a court system. Since being moderated isn't the same thing as being put in prison, we just have to rely on the judgement of the moderators... again, no biggie"
I disagree, if being on [awaiting approval] is supposed to be a punishment, then much like the normal court system a user should be able to protest their innocence and moderators should not be bias, so in effect they can not be active users of the site and be known to some and friendly with some.
If people get punished anyway, eventhough they think they are innocent (which obviously happens) then when their punishment is done they should be let out, just like the normal way of sentencing.
It does not really matter whether i have my nose bent out of shape or not, my points are valid.
I really do not want to report about anything that happens on the boards, i have tried to do so a few times but i don't even know how it works and the only reason i tried to do so was because action was taken against me for doing the same thing... so really petty reason and i am not proud of it.
Other than that i have reported people who approached me personally with totally illegal propositions.
I do not like to be an old and jaded poster either, i do not subscribe to the *pack* mentality.
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