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tazzygirl -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 2:30:47 PM)

~FR

Dangit, I came looking for a good debate with Firm... and find him MIA.




slvemike4u -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 2:48:06 PM)

I'm hanging around...with nothing to do....care to pick a "debate" with me ? Of course you will of necessity need to adopt the unreasonable rigid right positiOn.....I just don't play that role [:)]




kalikshama -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 3:57:49 PM)

This is my point:

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Our communities need to be concerned about the institutional racism, not about taking away women’s rights to self-determination.
Institutional racism is the foundation of many problems that impact blacks at disproportionate rates.


I was hoping someone would come on and make a point about the hypocrisy of Republicans raising the specter of genocide to further an agenda.




DomKen -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 4:18:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

If what you say is true, then a woman, whose life may be at risk as a result of the pregnancy, must die instead of getting an abortion. How is that type of murder different from the murder of a fetus?

Maybe you misunderstand the point I'm making.




slvemike4u -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 4:59:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

This is my point:

quote:

Our communities need to be concerned about the institutional racism, not about taking away women’s rights to self-determination.
Institutional racism is the foundation of many problems that impact blacks at disproportionate rates.


I was hoping someone would come on and make a point about the hypocrisy of Republicans raising the specter of genocide to further an agenda.
Or the further hypocrisy of declaring that every life is sacred......while holding the views they do on any and all social welfare programs.
Seems in their eyes life begins at conception.....but concern ends once that child is delivered!




tazzygirl -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 7:58:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

This is my point:

quote:

Our communities need to be concerned about the institutional racism, not about taking away women’s rights to self-determination.
Institutional racism is the foundation of many problems that impact blacks at disproportionate rates.


I was hoping someone would come on and make a point about the hypocrisy of Republicans raising the specter of genocide to further an agenda.


I think I already covered why many women, especially black women, have high failure rates with birth control.




tazzygirl -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 8:07:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

If what you say is true, then a woman, whose life may be at risk as a result of the pregnancy, must die instead of getting an abortion. How is that type of murder different from the murder of a fetus?

Maybe you misunderstand the point I'm making.


I think I did understand your point.

A fetus would, at the moment of conception, be a human with full protections, such as against murder.

However, in your scenario, you never once addressed the host of that life.

Here is the deal.

No Planned Parenthood.
No Abortions.
No birth control.

This is the religiously conservative platform. These guys need to build more bathrooms. Those pass and they wont be getting any pussy, thats for sure. [8|]




tazzygirl -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 8:13:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

This is my point:

quote:

Our communities need to be concerned about the institutional racism, not about taking away women’s rights to self-determination.
Institutional racism is the foundation of many problems that impact blacks at disproportionate rates.


I was hoping someone would come on and make a point about the hypocrisy of Republicans raising the specter of genocide to further an agenda.
Or the further hypocrisy of declaring that every life is sacred......while holding the views they do on any and all social welfare programs.
Seems in their eyes life begins at conception.....but concern ends once that child is delivered!



Jon Stewart does his best think think through the GOP's recent budget cutting measures for women's health and child services:

They want to cut everything from family care to prenatal care to child nutrition. It's like the Republican Congress is saying, "You can't prevent an unwanted child. You can't get care if you do get pregnant, and you can't get any help after the baby is born. But -- for those two minutes when the skull is crowning your baby is the most precious thing on Earth."


And then Michele Bachmann suggests the women stop off at express abortion centers in malls between doing some shopping and picking up Starbucks. Stewart reasons:

Some of them aren't even pregnant -- It's just so damn convenient. It's like Auntie Ann's pretzels. You're not planning on eating one. But it's right across from Abercrombie!

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/23/gop_planned_parenthood_jon_stewart




slvemike4u -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/19/2011 9:53:33 PM)

Too true to be as funny as it happens to be...great stuff Tazzy [:D]




DomKen -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/20/2011 2:33:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

If what you say is true, then a woman, whose life may be at risk as a result of the pregnancy, must die instead of getting an abortion. How is that type of murder different from the murder of a fetus?

Maybe you misunderstand the point I'm making.


I think I did understand your point.

A fetus would, at the moment of conception, be a human with full protections, such as against murder.

However, in your scenario, you never once addressed the host of that life.

I oppose the passage of such a law. IMO abortion should be available on demand with few restrictions.




kalikshama -> RE: hang on a mo... (6/20/2011 9:54:14 AM)

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Jon Stewart does his best think think through the GOP's recent budget cutting measures for women's health and child services: They want to cut everything from family care to prenatal care to child nutrition. It's like the Republican Congress is saying, "You can't prevent an unwanted child. You can't get care if you do get pregnant, and you can't get any help after the baby is born. But -- for those two minutes when the skull is crowning your baby is the most precious thing on Earth."


I <3 Jon Stewart!




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