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MistressDarkArt -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 12:36:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shine69 Greetings to all Dominants and thank you for the advice! It appears obvious that the offer is a scam but I will allow her to show that side of herself. I posted the following response. quote: I read your email with mixed feelings and delayed answering you or following your instructions. It appears you are offering me a pipe dream. You do not know me yet suggest a potential slave/marriage relationship. I do not know any women selling that song and dance! Am I even communicating with a dominant woman? The web site I review of you appears to say "yes" a most beautiful dominatrix. If you had suggested a session with payment I would have accepted in a New York minute. I had also suggested meeting at a non threatening place like a Panera Bread. Simply meet and then move on per your prerogative. Yes I would even bring a financial gift just for the opportunity of meeting you. Sorry but trust and sincerity is a two way street regardless whether sub or dominant. Well as Danny Glover stated in Predator II "your move" Shine69 Do let us know if you get a reply!

LadyConstanze -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 12:48:01 PM)
My bet is that he won't hear of her ever or it will be "You are so not worthy" reply - read "I am moving on to the next victim and hope he's enough of a sucker to pony up the cash for somebody he doesn't even know if it is a woman.."

ElanSubdued -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 1:31:37 PM)
Everyone, Perhaps I was a bit harsh in my response to Shine69. But, is a little bit of grace too much to ask from a dominant? For example, here's a fine candidate. :-) UltimateDomme http://www.collarme.com/details.asp?px=UltimateDomme

PeonForHer -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 2:18:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued Everyone, Perhaps I was a bit harsh in my response to Shine69. But, is a little bit of grace too much to ask from a dominant? For example, here's a fine candidate. :-) UltimateDomme http://www.collarme.com/details.asp?px=UltimateDomme Superb. True class. Cackle [:D]

SweetDommes -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 2:24:34 PM)
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Shine69 -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 2:31:22 PM)
Greetings ElanSubdued Dominant women speak their mind and I appreciate that. Thank you for your candid response. I am a professional type guy and take the discussion constructively. UltimateDomme is fantastic but just too young for me. In a couple days I will post whether I receive response from the Dominant lady I hoped to establish a relationship. Shine69

SthrnCom4t -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 4:44:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus So right, Arpig! I am pleased if they pay for my coffee & pastry! I can't feature asking for a gift IN ORDER to make a first date! Though I will add that small tokens like a dark chocolate bar, or a knitting magazine do not go amiss! And show that he learned a bit about me. Hi....my name is Steve...I..uh...I made you this afghan... [;)] GRRR...posted by Otter...

LadyHibiscus -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 9:06:59 PM)
I heart Otters. Dang, imagine having a fiber buddy for a companion...sigh...

Arpig -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/18/2011 11:25:03 PM)
quote: plus they will work as a gag or a rope if they happen to be close enough when needed lol Si! Correcto!

Arieno -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/19/2011 4:13:00 AM)
Perhaps I was a bit harsh in my response to Shine69. But, is a little bit of grace too much to ask from a dominant? I think Shine69's question, by its very nature, suggests the guy is clueless and inept when dealing with women in general. That he has lost sight of the fact a self appointed title of dominance, or any other title... neither defines nor measure the content of the woman.

msub4Domme -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/20/2011 7:42:25 PM)
To Shine69: Welcome to the scam world. There are several supposedly dominant "ladies" who run that scam exactly in the same matter. It is also known that some are not even ladies. I have indulged with those several times only to drop when the scammer drops the real request for money. I can recall one such person (both here but primarily on ALT.com) who played the same game from various locations it claimed to be from. That particularly one was exposed well on the forums associated with MaxFisch web site. But there are many others. I see on ALT there are two ads with suspiciously similar wording the the profile that I suspect are up to the same scheme.

Shine69 -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/21/2011 4:53:32 PM)
Greetings Once Again: A couple ladies asked the outcome of my email interaction with the dominant woman demanding payment a priori meeting her. She responded to me with quote: I am disappointed that you seem to want to fail so early and ruin everything but this is why I set this test. If what I have described in previous e mails is what you truly seek then you will not hesitate and understand why I have asked it. It is a significant show of trust and in terms of a long term relationship is nothing. The choice is send a gift or goodbye. Think carefully if you decline though as the opportunity will not be repeated by Me. Its hardly like Im asking you to chop your arm off. Your responses and advice were pointed, a couple somewhat brusk. But better brusk than swindled. I will not respond to the person's demand. Better to check out a Munchie instead! Thanks to all for your advice! Shine69

LadyPact -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/21/2011 4:58:16 PM)
Unless somebody is going to come along and say that they were shocked (other than in a joking manner and you know who you are) that's probably the end of the thread.

MistressDarkArt -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/21/2011 5:00:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shine69 Greetings Once Again: A couple ladies asked the outcome of my email interaction with the dominant woman demanding payment a priori meeting her. She responded to me with quote: I am disappointed that you seem to want to fail so early and ruin everything but this is why I set this test. If what I have described in previous e mails is what you truly seek then you will not hesitate and understand why I have asked it. It is a significant show of trust and in terms of a long term relationship is nothing. The choice is send a gift or goodbye. Think carefully if you decline though as the opportunity will not be repeated by Me. Its hardly like Im asking you to chop your arm off. Shine69 You did good, Shine. And no, she wasn't asking you to chop off your arm but you did offer to extend it with tribute in person. What a load of crap. Wishing you luck and the real thing. We are out there; keep looking!

erieangel -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/21/2011 7:42:40 PM)
I'm knew to this and quite gullible at time, but even i wouldn't send money to somebody i don't know. i simply can't afford to do so!!!

KiGirl -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/24/2011 9:46:43 PM)
Cut your losses. Steer clear. An inventive Domme could come up with PLENTY of other tributes that would be a far stronger test of your loyalty to Her (and the lifestyle). A good Domme would accept your genuine concerns and fears and work with you to find a suitable alternative, not give bitchy ultimatums.

errantgeek -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/24/2011 11:14:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Shine69 quote: This is important and will show that you are genuine and ready to move forward to make this lifestyle a reality and not just something to masturbate to. You will send a cash gift. Reasons for you to send it are obvious. It shows you are genuine and not a small-minded masturbator on the Internet. If you don't wish to send then all you have said is meaningless, If you can obey this most annoying of orders then you will have passed an important test. I expect you to be generous and not selfish or short sighted. Remember you are nearly selected to become not just My slave but My life partner so if you fail in this then unfortunately you will have lost the opportunity. This is not negotiable Sounds like the person that was trying to scam me a week or so back. Let me guess, "Goddess Veronika"? I sniffed them out early, but just kept the correspondence going for as long as I could for laughs with increasingly deranged and...ethically questionable...kinks and requests until they just stopped responding. Apparently, no tribute is big enough to cut your own hand off to indulge a poor little boyslave's fantasy of being anally violated by an amputee.

LadyConstanze -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/25/2011 1:26:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: errantgeek Sounds like the person that was trying to scam me a week or so back. Let me guess, "Goddess Veronika"? I sniffed them out early, but just kept the correspondence going for as long as I could for laughs with increasingly deranged and...ethically questionable...kinks and requests until they just stopped responding. Apparently, no tribute is big enough to cut your own hand off to indulge a poor little boyslave's fantasy of being anally violated by an amputee. Oh hell, why didn't you say this before? Google for that name, there are threads about her scams on tons of BDSM boards, quite a few people have been scammed

LadyNTrainer -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/25/2011 8:21:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: errantgeek Sounds like the person that was trying to scam me a week or so back. Let me guess, "Goddess Veronika"? I sniffed them out early, but just kept the correspondence going for as long as I could for laughs with increasingly deranged and...ethically questionable...kinks and requests until they just stopped responding. Apparently, no tribute is big enough to cut your own hand off to indulge a poor little boyslave's fantasy of being anally violated by an amputee. On the one hand, that is fucking hilarious. On the other hand, unless you are pretty goddamn sure she is a scammer and is actually lying, misleading, misrepresenting, etc, in order to get your money, with no intent of following through, the ethics of harassing people because they choose different lifestyles in kink from yours is highly questionable. Let's say she's a real human being who is tired of being treated like a living Kleenex cum-dump by selfish do-me "submissive" guys, and she's serious about wanting a life partner who is more giving and gentlemanly. I wouldn't use these methods myself because I don't think shortcuts ultimately work, but it is not my business to tell her that she can not use this shortcut to making sure her chosen partner is more of a giver than a taker. It's not yours, either. If you wrote her first and engaged in harassment based on her profile, I think you were being an ass. If she solicited you (and other random users) for money out of the blue, then IMO she deserves what she gets.

LadyConstanze -> RE: A Question of Protocol (6/25/2011 9:36:07 AM)
From what I gathered from threads on several forums, she seems to run this scam under several names but most of them are Veronika... Let's say until there is an international conspiracy against her that's been running for several years, she's writing to people and demand that they show how serious they are by sending her money to be considered as live ins (now apparently also potential life-partners) you raise your chances meeting her. I shouldn't laugh but there is one very real guy who is not too bright (met him in person) who sent her money 3 times, as all her incarnations told him the other ones were imposters and used her site, but if he is interested he would send money to her, if not well she tried her best....

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