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erieangel -> RE: Online Crap (6/23/2011 8:45:58 PM)

if she lives in some kind of subsidized housing (just throwing it out there) then yeah, only the people on the lease and their minor dependents can live there. landlords can stipulate the same things.




hlen5 -> RE: Online Crap (6/23/2011 9:08:04 PM)

The fact you titled this Online CRAP means you don't trust her. Let her go. You are not listening to her telling you no. That's obsessive.




LadyPact -> RE: Online Crap (6/23/2011 10:54:05 PM)

Add another female vote for if I don't know you in person, you don't need My home address and you sure don't need My place of employment.  All this woman has is your word that you aren't the type of person to call there and cause problems for her at work.  Let Me ask you a question.  What do you think the type of people who *will* call someone at their job to harass them say?  Do you really think they admit to it when first asking where someone works?

Obviously, you've never waited tables or worked in a position that where customers ebb and flow.  In her part time job, she may not get breaks if she isn't working a set number of hours.  They won't always be at the same time.  If a party of twelve comes five minutes before she's due her break, she's probably staying on the serving floor until they pay the check.

Yes, some supervisor's will, with the permission of the employee to do so, redial the number on the cell to let that person on the other end know that it's not appropriate for her to be taking calls while serving customers.  I've had people working under Me say, "I wish you would tell him that I can't get calls here".  I've worked in several production area where no cell phones were permitted and calls were limited to incoming only for emergency situations. 




myotherself -> RE: Online Crap (6/23/2011 11:15:00 PM)

OP - you mention you've been talking to her "awhile". How long is that? A week, a month...longer?

It seems to me that she's getting a bit stressed by the demands for seriously personal information from someone she's never met and my not have known online for very long. It sounds like you are a lot more 'into' whatever it is you have between you than she is.

You can talk all you like online, have amazing chemistry online and on the phone, but absolutely zero chemistry in real life. I speak as the voice of experience here, and I'm sure there are many others who will agree.

So if you want to progress the relationship then you have a few choices.

1. Meet the woman. Suck up the cost and inconvenience of the trip, and see if there's anything worth pursuing. Maybe at that point, if you both click, she may be more relaxed about giving you personal info.

2. Decide that it's only going to be long distance and online, and deal with the fact that she may never give you the personal info.

3. Climb back onto your drama llama and clip clop away in search of something that better fits your needs.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 12:04:14 AM)

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I asked for her PO box. A couple minutes later I get a message from her phone, but not from her. It's from her boss apparently. He types, quote," Danica will get her phone back when she is done!"

I asked who it was speaking. He says "Her boss."


I am a waitress and my boss has done the same thing, taken the phones off of the kids who cant seem to keep their heads on their jobs because they are too busy talking/texting.

quote:

Now, I work. I have a job. I have breaks. I get lunch. No one goes to work for 8 hours and is gung ho the entire time. There is down time. Has anyone ever heard of a boss taking their employee's phone, then using it while they are right there to write to someone?


Waiting tables isnt like most jobs. You are busy when you are busy, and when you arent, you take a break. That means if you are busy most of the night, you are busy, period.

quote:

That sounds kind of bizarre to me. Curious if anyone else has experienced anything like this. And like I said, been talking to her while she is waitressing for the past few nights. I just now ask for her PO and she happens to get in trouble then? Ok...


Most restaurants gear up on thursday through saturday, even sunday... monday through wednesday are their slow nights. She got busted on the job. Be thankful they didnt send her home.

As far as giving out information, I can tell you that when I had roommates, I would have been pissed if they gave out my address to someone they met on line without my knowledge and permission. Keep that in mind. Its not just her information she will be giving you.




Awareness -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 12:08:10 AM)

  Dude, you're obsessing.  Back the fuck off.

Look, if a chick is into you, she'll make shit easy - she will be easily contactable, she'll be often available, she won't make you jump through hoops.  If you're running into obstacles, then just back off and chill.  Don't chase her down trying to find holes in her story.

To be honest, your approach suggests to me that you have issues you need to resolve before you pursue any woman.  I realise that's not exactly subtle, but I'm afraid it is most likely true.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 12:09:56 AM)

Ugh... I hate a guy who chases.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 12:56:33 AM)

AbletonLive77 (is your username as in the awesome DAW software?),

Dude the mail address business here is complete bullshit. Her not giving you her work information that's realistic at this stage of the game. I've known some country clubs that have bars open until closing time of 1-2 am. Most simply stop serving food by around 10pm. So it's not bullshit for a bar in a country club or other fine upscale establishments to be open this late.

In regards to somebody wanting to be yours without meeting face to face, this also is not total bullshit either regardless of not having met face to face. Mind you, meeting face to face...adds reality and extreme clarity to these thoughts and decisions. Still the desire to want to be with somebody without having met is not complete bullshit.

I don't know what part of the country she is located in, but $15/hour plus tips is not uncommon in certain parts of the US. Not to mention it depends upon the establishment. Hell some people make $15/hour working at Burger King or McDonald's in parts of the country!

Again her not giving you her work information at this stage in the game, is very realistic and well is a reflection of the common sense she is using at the moment. I'd give that an A+ on her part.

I'm really not seeing much in the way of Red Flags, save the home address business. Because she has to get mail in her own name somewhere (That's common sense she would be).

Here's something to consider... and think about!!

Letting her submit to you or not. You trying to force this shit along ain't going to get you anywhere. Not with you stressed out and letting it get to you.




AbletonLive77 -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 2:43:39 AM)

You guys are right. Think I am just getting a little frustrated is all. Normally not like this. Just feel as though I've been put thru the ringer a bit. We've talked for a few months and have had to put up with a couple odd things.

Anyway, we are planning to meet in 2 months. She is going to move down here. Her parents have passed, her brothers are all military, so she has no real ties where she is. I guess she figures she can move close to me, then if it doesn't work out, she always has her friend to go back to, which is fine. One reason I was feeling a little muddled is she says things like she trusts me with her mind and body (even though we've never met) then I ask her something like her address and get a run around. Just seems a little contradictory. What's more important, mind and body or address or place of work?

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. 2 months. I can wait. I am going to apologize to her for getting her in trouble, lay back and play things cool. I was wrong, and I can admit that. Letting a situation get the best of me. Haven't been having the best month so far. Thanks everyone for the info and opinions.

Main thing about last night that ticked me off though, was her boss. I very well know they confiscate things, but what about him reading and responding to personal messages on her phone? I could never do that to someone else. Especially if they were standing right there, like he said she was. So he responds back to me a few times with her there watching? Now I remember why I'm self employed. Have a good one everyone. Thanks again.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 3:57:05 AM)

Never worked in a restaurant?




LadyConstanze -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 4:11:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

No, the mail thing isn't BS. If a person can prove occupency at a residence, with mail that was delivered to that address - then the landlord has to go through an eviction process to get that person out. A letter post dated in her name to that address can be used as one means to prove occupency. Of course, it is unlikely that the landlord would know she received mail, and the law is there to protect the occupent from unlawful evictions so the girls concerns are a bit unfounded.




Depends, I stayed in a few halls of residence and everybody wanted to get into them (quite cheap and clean) so a few people who lived there went on to move in with spouses and didn't tell, but rented them out for more money and/or a bit of a bribe, the unis got fed up with it and told the postman to put post that is c/o or the name of the occupant doesn't correspond with that on the letter into their mail box - they then investigated who is living there and quite a few people got evicted. If it is an apartment building, I'd think it would be fairly easy for the landlord to arrange something like that?




Arieno -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 4:12:39 AM)

Locket, have you always been able to see the obvious, read between the lines, or is it you are more in touch with common sense?




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 5:09:12 AM)

Oh yeah, I give my home address out to everyone I talk to on-line.  She is a fake-move on.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 5:17:32 AM)

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Depends, I stayed in a few halls of residence and everybody wanted to get into them (quite cheap and clean) so a few people who lived there went on to move in with spouses and didn't tell, but rented them out for more money and/or a bit of a bribe, the unis got fed up with it and told the postman to put post that is c/o or the name of the occupant doesn't correspond with that on the letter into their mail box - they then investigated who is living there and quite a few people got evicted. If it is an apartment building, I'd think it would be fairly easy for the landlord to arrange something like that?


This is the good ole US of A. The Postal service wont take the time.




thishereboi -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 5:29:16 AM)

I wouldn't give out my address or work phone until I have met someone. However, I also would tell you that upfront and not come up with excuses why I won't. I can't tell you why she won't because I don't know either one of you.




poise -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 6:00:11 AM)

If the Online Crap you are frustrated over becomes more than you can tolerate,
here is a listing of various events/munches that are local to your area.
Munches = casual get togethers with like minded people.
http://www.drkdesyre.com/index.htm




OsideGirl -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 7:25:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude... you are obsessive.
Yeah, and with that I wouldn't give out my residence or job either.

quote:

ORIGINAL: AbletonLive77


Main thing about last night that ticked me off though, was her boss. I very well know they confiscate things, but what about him reading and responding to personal messages on her phone?
You don't know that he read her messages. He's PAYING her to do a job. You're interrupting. All he did was tell you that you needed to wait until it was her time, not his time.

You need to get grip.




lizi -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 8:00:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AbletonLive77

You guys are right. Think I am just getting a little frustrated is all. Normally not like this. Just feel as though I've been put thru the ringer a bit. We've talked for a few months and have had to put up with a couple odd things.

Anyway, we are planning to meet in 2 months. She is going to move down here. Her parents have passed, her brothers are all military, so she has no real ties where she is. I guess she figures she can move close to me, then if it doesn't work out, she always has her friend to go back to, which is fine. One reason I was feeling a little muddled is she says things like she trusts me with her mind and body (even though we've never met) then I ask her something like her address and get a run around. Just seems a little contradictory. What's more important, mind and body or address or place of work?

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. 2 months. I can wait. I am going to apologize to her for getting her in trouble, lay back and play things cool. I was wrong, and I can admit that. Letting a situation get the best of me. Haven't been having the best month so far. Thanks everyone for the info and opinions.

Main thing about last night that ticked me off though, was her boss. I very well know they confiscate things, but what about him reading and responding to personal messages on her phone? I could never do that to someone else. Especially if they were standing right there, like he said she was. So he responds back to me a few times with her there watching? Now I remember why I'm self employed. Have a good one everyone. Thanks again.


It seems like the two of you are moving pretty fast if you're planning on meeting each other when she moves there. Don't you think it might be prudent to just spend some time together before having her move out there?

You're pretty invested in what's happening here and are taking it seriously, she's saying she is but not letting you have access to everything that you want. Which is prudent for someone she's never met, but you are seeing these two things as being contradictory. Maybe, if you could just meet in a casual manner the two of you could progress in a manner that is more in sync with each other? You're really not going to get anywhere if you keep pushing her into feeling uncomfortable. Yes, she's saying she'll give you what you want, but the reality is that she's not quite there yet and this is understandable for someone she's never met. Be the leader, take the stuff she doesn't want to do off the table, let her breathe, stop pushing so hard. Concentrate on finding a way to see each other without all of these future plans coming home to roost all at the same time so you can see if the two of you were meant to be or not.




erieangel -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 8:04:42 AM)

dude, i wouldn't give you my home address or place of employment either.




GypsyCowgirl1 -> RE: Online Crap (6/24/2011 8:34:28 AM)

It seems odd to me that she would have already decided that she loves you, body and soul, and that she's going to even move to your location, all without ever having met you in the first place. Aren't you and she putting the cart before the horse by doing that?

If you are self-employed, I imagine that you could take a little time off to arrange to meet her at any location of her choosing and at her convenience, all without gathering her address or employment information. I think you would gather more information about her real intentions by her response to your no-strings offer to meet at your expense. I think that you should realize that nobody would seriously advise you that they are moving to you in two months' time, yet at the same time refuse to meet casually first in a safe public place. I think that would be a sign that she may be stringing you along online for as long as she can get away with it, which is after all a very common practice on dating sites.




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