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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 12:27:39 PM

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I definitely would have a problem with cat poop on my garden. I like to walk barefoot, and my kids play there, and not long ago we had sandboxes also. And it is not only poop. Cat pee stinks, especially if the use a corner of your garden, or worse, the kids sandbox, as a favourite toilet.

I am with the posters who pointed out that behaviour like this would be unthinkable with dogs, and cat poop is in no way more hygienic, and I am really no hygiene nut.

Our cats live indoors and use a litter box, and we clean up after our dog when walking him.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 12:32:14 PM

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Cats bury their poop.

And what happens when they do it in your fucking window box that you just put flowers in?

Keep fluffy in the house or don't bitch about what happens to him.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 12:36:20 PM

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It seems like once a month around here, someone sends a letter to the editor whining about some "mean driver" that ran over fluffy and didnt stop to help pay vet bills or offer condolences or whatever.

If you don't want fluffy to get tire tracks on his pelt, keep him in the fuckin house.

To quote Redd Foxx. "I'm not gonna wreck a $25,000 car to save a 15 cent cat" If the cat means that much to you, HOUSE.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 12:43:08 PM

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Cats bury their poop.

Not always. I have a constant battle with feral cats and their evidence is often times just left on top of the soil. Because we live by a river in "the country", people drop cats off on a regular basis, thinking they will survive. What happens, is they end up in my yard, half starved, beaten up and usually limping or missing pieces from their ears. Our little town has no animal control, the next city over won't take stray cats from us even if we trap them, (county to county regulations), so locals trap and dispose of whatever they can. I don't ask them how, I don't want to know.

I have tried every repellent on the market, nothing works. They mark trees and our house, car tires (ever get into your car on a hot day and had it filled with the aroma of cat urine that drifts in from warm tires?), or had to spend an hour picking up un-buried cat poop before you can even start to work in your own garden?

It's easier to tolerate the feral cats, they have no one who claims them, and you know they will wind up as coyote fast food, or worse. What is not tolerated well, are the people who turn Fluffy loose on the neighborhood because she is a cat, and we all know you can't control a cat. Not only does Fluffy pee and poop like the feral cats, but she is also in danger of the same fate they follow.

So yeah, if there was a dotted line to sign, making cat owners responsible for what they own...I would put my mark!

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 1:28:51 PM

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Cats bury their poop.

And what happens when they do it in your fucking window box that you just put flowers in?

Keep fluffy in the house or don't bitch about what happens to him.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 1:35:57 PM

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ever get into your car on a hot day and had it filled with the aroma of cat urine that drifts in from warm tires?)

I so wish I would not own that t-shirt

2002 I went to the vet with my cat as he could barely move anymore (don't know whom he came accross outside)...so I went to the vet...put him in his basket where I had towels inside in case an accident happen...but he was so shitty scared...those towels were not much use...

so every time it got warm...you could continue to smell him

as that was in the seat next to the driver seat

2003 we gave that car away free of charge (on a less sunny day presumably....my parents made that deal whilst I was in Ireland) cause if we would have disposed for it we would have had to pay (it was an old car from somewhere 15-20 years of age) and so one lucky lady could still drive it for a year...

So since then the lesson is learned...never ever a hay basket to carry my cats to the vet

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 8:27:31 PM

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Well around here- people would just shoot the cats. Not so much in town- but in the sticks.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 9:39:14 PM

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Well around here- people would just shoot the cats. Not so much in town- but in the sticks.

Then, keep them in the house so they can live nice long happy, healthy lives and feel like they are loved.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/25/2011 11:08:38 PM

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It seems like once a month around here, someone sends a letter to the editor whining about some "mean driver" that ran over fluffy and didnt stop to help pay vet bills or offer condolences or whatever.

If you don't want fluffy to get tire tracks on his pelt, keep him in the fuckin house.

To quote Redd Foxx. "I'm not gonna wreck a $25,000 car to save a 15 cent cat" If the cat means that much to you, HOUSE.

I have a relative who is a vet. He has great sayings, like..."Your dog/cat was run over? I'm so sorry someone drove their car through your fence!

Cats do bury their poo. Dogs don't. Just means it's less noticable. Unless there are many unaltered males around..
Cats are generally one size..Dogs.. not so much. Some are able to knock down full trash cans and make a mess of it...some are too small.
Feral cats usually avoid human contact, unless starving. They hide.. and are nocturnal. they are much less likely to attack a human, or bite a human, than a dog is.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 6:48:26 AM

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They still decimate songbirds, owned or unowned. And yes, studies do show that the greatest threat to bird populations are cats. So if your neighbor feeds the birds, and you let your cat out to prey on them, don't be surprised if they get fed up with your cat and do something permanent about it.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 7:03:14 AM

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I'm with the cats should remain indoors crowd. My white furball was a stray who adopted us. So he was used to going out. Over time we trained him to be an indoor cat. Although he has not been out in about 2 years, he still whines to go out at times !!

Outdoor cats don't live long, and if they are hunters will take down a surprising number of birds. They shit in gardens and sandboxes. Toddlers routinely get parasites by playing in contaminated sand. Plus cats get in fights and get hit by cars. I read somewhere they are attracted to car engines b/c of smell. Ever see what a car does to a cat when he's lying on your radiator and you turn your car on?

If you really care about your cats, keep them inside, it's safer for everybody.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 7:26:17 AM

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Feral cats usually avoid human contact, unless starving. They hide.. and are nocturnal. they are much less likely to attack a human, or bite a human, than a dog is.

The feral cats around here didn't read that manual. I have never seen an aggressive cat, but they don't flee in terror either, broad daylight or night. A few of the old toms, almost have a daring attitude, giving me a "look" as they pee on our car tires, like, "whatcha gonna do about it?".

I think, and this is just my guess since I don't watch them, they hide at night due to coyotes. I never hear cat fights, or yowling from toms in the evening, always during daylight hours.

I'm not a cat hater, we have owned a few in my lifetime, but always inside, neutered and well loved. I don't turn my dogs loose on the neighbors because "it's in their nature to roam". I can understand how people become haters.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 7:54:53 AM

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I grew up with indoor outdoor cats. Six kids in and out......I think it would have been impossible to keep them in. But it still wasn't right.

Last summer, my son trapped over 30 cats that the crazy cat lady across the street from his shop had attracted to the area. She was all about feeding them but would never imagine doing any vet care like spaying and neutering. Over the years of her kindness, the population grew and grew. My son builds cars with a final value that can be over a quarter of a million dollars. Having cats sneak in and piss and shit where ever they want, accidentally getting locked into the shop.......it was time to fix the problem. The local shelter became over whelmed with the number of cats they were trapping and delivering. They finally told my son, no more.

A 22 took care of the problem

I live in the country with no close neighbours. I have a cat that was a feral kitten, or a dumped kitten (we get that A LOT), that just decided to move in. For the first few years I was easily able to keep him indoors. He was neutered as soon as the vet would do it. He is vaccinated as needed. He is also determined to spend most of his time outdoors during good weather. He will hide near the door, wait for the dogs to be going outdoors and sneak out underneath them. I am quite certain there are people, that live in town, that have a similar situation. BUT.....if I lived in town and I cared about him at all, I would find a way to keep him indoors, regardless. Sadly, the truth is, I didn't want a cat and accept that a coyote, owl, or eagle might end his life earlier than otherwise. Traffic isn't a problem. He is has been here 10 years. When I am dealing with his litterbox I feel like it's 10 years too long.

If I lived in town and the neighbours cat were coming into my yard pissing and shitting, or if feral cats or dumped cats had any sort of life expectancy and here hanging around, I would have no problem disposing of them. I adore my pets and understand I am not the only one. But I am not arrogant enough to expect that my neighbours want my pets hanging out at their house. I do everything possible to keep my dogs contained. The cat doesn't travel the distances the dogs would to get to the neighbours property so I know the only issue for him is wild life.

Long blah blah blah cut short. If you have pets and do not contain them, expect that your neighbours might not find them as lovable as you do and might be well within their legal rights to get rid of them if they are on their property and possibly doing damage.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 8:27:18 AM

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I'm with the cats should remain indoors crowd. My white furball was a stray who adopted us. So he was used to going out. Over time we trained him to be an indoor cat. Although he has not been out in about 2 years, he still whines to go out at times !!

Outdoor cats don't live long, and if they are hunters will take down a surprising number of birds. They shit in gardens and sandboxes. Toddlers routinely get parasites by playing in contaminated sand. Plus cats get in fights and get hit by cars. I read somewhere they are attracted to car engines b/c of smell. Ever see what a car does to a cat when he's lying on your radiator and you turn your car on?

If you really care about your cats, keep them inside, it's safer for everybody.

I have been successful in converting my cat into an indoor cat. Not only do I not want the fleas- not all people are nice. She is a nice cat and could meet up with teens who set her on fire, or worse. There are some people who take joy out of torchuring a cat. I know much of the people on my block- most are not that way- but I still do not want to take that chance. There are drifters now and then... it is just how things go. My cat did adjust to staying inside. I put tables near windows- she loves to look outside. Does not trip me at the door anymore to get out. It is better for me and better for her this way.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 12:11:11 PM

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I picked my Viktor up at a local shelter. He had been turned in as a stray. He was a year old, weighed 6 pounds, practically emaciated, much of his fur was coming out due to lack of nutrition, and he was covered with fleas and grease. He looked like a rat, with no body fat (his hip bones stuck out and his belly was caved in to his body). I sent a pic of my new little boy to a friend who replied, "Oh that's a face only a mother can love!"

That condition was the result of him being a stray.

For the first year that I had him, I would have to block the door when entering/exiting because he'd want to get out. Now, he's hardly interested. He's nourished, healthy and happy, at 13 pounds with more fur than I know what to do with, and spends most of his days playing with the variety of toys I have for him, napping and purring. A much better life for the little guy.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 12:15:32 PM

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Now...healthy boy

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 12:39:25 PM

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I LOVE his eyes!!!!

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 12:48:09 PM

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He's pretty darn cool. My point is, he likely wouldn't have survived much longer as a stray. I always send thank you's out into the world, to the person who turned him in, and to the shelter who hung onto him. He had been there 10 days when I found him. They were full of cats but still had room, so they didn't euthanize him yet.

People need to keep their cats inside. Period. Too many dangers out there, mostly from other people.

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 2:26:20 PM

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They still decimate songbirds, owned or unowned. And yes, studies do show that the greatest threat to bird populations are cats. So if your neighbor feeds the birds, and you let your cat out to prey on them, don't be surprised if they get fed up with your cat and do something permanent about it.

The few folks I know who have cats that do go out have bells on them, for that reason. They can still get their stalking in, but the birds get away.

Me, I prefer feline with a mild teriyaki sauce.......

They make me go achoo!!!!!

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RE: Cat shit in neighbours gardens - 6/26/2011 2:31:20 PM

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I think they should, but that doesn't mean they will be. I lost count of how many cats and dogs are next door neighbors have gone through in the years we have lived here. They have no concept of how to care for an animal and let theirs roam the neighborhood at will. They get hit by cars or simply dissapear after a while. Then there was the cat who kept getting into the other neighbors fish pond. He got shot. Now I am not condoning violence, but I honestly didn't miss the little bugger crying under my window every night about midnight.

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