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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:52:17 PM   
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fetal alcohol syndrome is worse than cocaine for the unborn... especially in the first trimester.

In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a worse drug for an embryo to be exposed to



When I was 18, I got drunk once during my first trimester. I didn't find out I was pregnant until 2 weeks later. I was pretty freaked about it since I had read that one time is all it takes. Fortunately, the baby I gave up for adoption wasn't born with fetal alcohol syndrome.



It can happen with one occurence. Typically it takes much more. Many women drink and dont find out until after they had a few too many.

There are no medically safe guidelines as to how much is safe and how much is too much.

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Prenatal alcohol exposure is the cause of fetal alcohol syndrome. A study of over 400,000 American women, all of whom had consumed alcohol during pregnancy, concluded that consumption of 15 drinks or more per week was associated with a reduction in birth weight.[34] Though consumption of less than 15 drinks per week was not proven to cause FAS-related effects, the study authors recommend limiting consumption to no more than one standard drink per day.[34] Also, threshold values are based upon group averages, and it is not appropriate to conclude that exposure below this threshold is necessarily ‘safe’ because of the significant individual variations in alcohol pharmacokinetics.[34]

An analysis of seven medical research studies involving over 130,000 pregnancies found that consuming two to 14 drinks per week did not significantly increase the risk of giving birth to a child with either malformations or fetal alcohol syndrome.[35] Pregnant women who consume approximately 18 drinks per day have a 30-33% chance of having a baby with FAS.[34]

A number of studies have shown that light drinking (1-2 drinks/week) during pregnancy does not appear to pose a risk to the fetus.[36][37][38][39] A study of pregnancies in eight European countries found that consuming no more than one drink per day did not appear to have any effect on fetal growth.

A follow-up of children at 18 months of age found that those from women who drank during pregnancy, even two drinks per day, scored higher in several areas of development,[40] though in a different study, a linear dose-response relationship was seen between prenatal alcohol exposure and arithmetic scores at age 6.[41]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome

This is a pretty concise section from wiki.



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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:53:26 PM   
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fetal alcohol syndrome is worse than cocaine for the unborn... especially in the first trimester.

In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a worse drug for an embryo to be exposed to



When I was 18, I got drunk once during my first trimester. I didn't find out I was pregnant until 2 weeks later. I was pretty freaked about it since I had read that one time is all it takes. Fortunately, the baby I gave up for adoption wasn't born with fetal alcohol syndrome.



Most of the time it takes more than one binge to have a baby with fetal alcohol syndrome. It is an ugly thing to sentence a human being to live with though.

And it is legal to drink in your first trimester... crap, some women do not know they are pregnant for a couple of months and it is not uncommon for women to have light periods when they first get pregnant.


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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:54:41 PM   
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LOL

Hippie, this is my field. Of course I am not going to ignore it.
Oh yeah right like I'm buying that good one hahahaha >snort<



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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:55:53 PM   
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And it is legal to drink in your first trimester... crap, some women do not know they are pregnant for a couple of months and it is not uncommon for women to have light periods when they first get pregnant.


I took grandma's advice and, at 39 weeks, had a beer while on a cleaning frenzy at my place. Two days later, woke up in labor.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:56:04 PM   
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LOL

Hippie, this is my field. Of course I am not going to ignore it.
Oh yeah right like I'm buying that good one hahahaha >snort<



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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:57:05 PM   
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Yeah, the psychotic slips are quite a resemblance.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 9:59:35 PM   
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Yeah, the psychotic slips are quite a resemblance.
See, you could be a defective too! If you aren't already...


Oh, and I'm not psychotic. According to the DSM-V, I'm "Nuts".


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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 10:02:11 PM   
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And it is legal to drink in your first trimester... crap, some women do not know they are pregnant for a couple of months and it is not uncommon for women to have light periods when they first get pregnant.


I took grandma's advice and, at 39 weeks, had a beer while on a cleaning frenzy at my place. Two days later, woke up in labor.


The day my water broke I went to the doctor and told him that I was so big it was hurting me when the baby moved... it was two days before my due date, so I asked how I could induce labor naturally... he said "go for a long walk"... I did, and it broke my water.

The funny thing was the doctor insisted that my baby could not be hurting me when he moved, because he was on the smaller side of 6 pounds... he said at the most he weighed 5 1/2 lbs... he was 8 1/2


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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 10:09:29 PM   
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LOL

I always loved the Drs who felt they could tell how much a baby weighed by palpating the woman's stomach. They were rarely right

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 10:13:33 PM   
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LOL

I always loved the Drs who felt they could tell how much a baby weighed by palpating the woman's stomach. They were rarely right



I carried in my back. I gained 30 lbs during my pregnancy and he was telling me it was way too much... I weighed only 5 lbs more than when I got pregnant 3 weeks later. They have these guidelines they adhere too closely to at times

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 10:18:48 PM   
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And it is legal to drink in your first trimester... crap, some women do not know they are pregnant for a couple of months and it is not uncommon for women to have light periods when they first get pregnant.


I took grandma's advice and, at 39 weeks, had a beer while on a cleaning frenzy at my place. Two days later, woke up in labor.


The day my water broke I went to the doctor and told him that I was so big it was hurting me when the baby moved... it was two days before my due date, so I asked how I could induce labor naturally... he said "go for a long walk"... I did, and it broke my water.

The funny thing was the doctor insisted that my baby could not be hurting me when he moved, because he was on the smaller side of 6 pounds... he said at the most he weighed 5 1/2 lbs... he was 8 1/2

If I had known what douchebags quacks can be back when I was nursing them through their Chem labs, I would have spent all my time with the Nursing students.


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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:09:27 PM   
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This seems to be a thread with great potential for discussion. Please keep it that way by avoiding personal attacks and staying on topic.

Thank you.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:10:21 PM   
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Oh no, thank you Rho!

And that is a genuine thank you!!

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:12:08 PM   
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You are very welcome.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:16:18 PM   
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I carried in my back. I gained 30 lbs during my pregnancy and he was telling me it was way too much... I weighed only 5 lbs more than when I got pregnant 3 weeks later. They have these guidelines they adhere too closely to at times


I lost 25 lbs by the time I discovered I was pregnant... lol... they never should have told me I HAD to gain weight.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:18:40 PM   
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LOL

I always loved the Drs who felt they could tell how much a baby weighed by palpating the woman's stomach. They were rarely right


When I was about to be born, the doctor was feeling My shoulders instead of My head and butt and he said I would be a small baby.

I was 9lb 5 oz and My mom looked at him and said "I guess you meant a small baby elephant"

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:21:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

And it is legal to drink in your first trimester... crap, some women do not know they are pregnant for a couple of months and it is not uncommon for women to have light periods when they first get pregnant.


I took grandma's advice and, at 39 weeks, had a beer while on a cleaning frenzy at my place. Two days later, woke up in labor.


The day my water broke I went to the doctor and told him that I was so big it was hurting me when the baby moved... it was two days before my due date, so I asked how I could induce labor naturally... he said "go for a long walk"... I did, and it broke my water.

The funny thing was the doctor insisted that my baby could not be hurting me when he moved, because he was on the smaller side of 6 pounds... he said at the most he weighed 5 1/2 lbs... he was 8 1/2

If I had known what douchebags quacks can be back when I was nursing them through their Chem labs, I would have spent all my time with the Nursing students.


I had a few future Chancre Mechanics drop the Invertebrate Zoology class I taught as well.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:27:43 PM   
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When I was about to be born, the doctor was feeling My shoulders instead of My head and butt and he said I would be a small baby.

I was 9lb 5 oz and My mom looked at him and said "I guess you meant a small baby elephant"


Largest baby I helped deliver was 13 pounds... to a 13 year old... she didnt even bruise.

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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:33:02 PM   
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RE: pregnant women who lose babies face murder charges - 6/25/2011 11:33:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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When I was about to be born, the doctor was feeling My shoulders instead of My head and butt and he said I would be a small baby.

I was 9lb 5 oz and My mom looked at him and said "I guess you meant a small baby elephant"


Largest baby I helped deliver was 13 pounds... to a 13 year old... she didnt even bruise.

When I think of what 9lb 5oz did to me, I cringe at the thought of 13lb let alone anything else! I was ginagerous with my youngest... I went from 2 centimeteres dilated to ten in two and a half minutes, he came so fast, I had a tear both directions lengthwise, took me months and months to get over that..one of the reason I decided not to have any more and had my tubes tied six weeks after the birth.
Thank god for tiny stitches, good healing and kegels
sorry if thats TMI..LOL


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