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angelikaJ -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:02:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tammystarm

see above not much option... we dont qualify for any assistance programs such as food stamps etc. Our bills before any new bills like rent utilities is extremely high and there is very little i can do to cut them.... (although some i am)....... BUT my first objective is my children and my health. Yeah i know it sounds like its ridiculous but i still dont see any other choice. Yes i am going to school for something I LOVE however its the money that is needed. Most aestheticians gross more per week than nurses. Especially if your in a medical setting. All my scheduled appointments are handled on mondays , i dont goto school on monday...... and if the kids do their chores than coming home i can spend quality time with them. Even if it is reading a book in bed, and chatting about our day, plans etc. and not to mention now that we are moving out (Somehow) the house doesnt even have to be perfect.
I talked with the kids last night about housing. Of course they want the cool house or apartment. But I explained to them, that if we lived in a cheap cheap cheap place (not filled with bugs ), than we might be able to get furniture.... have just that tad bit of money to buy a pizza once a month etc....


1)You may be able to find nice section 8 housing... it does really exist in some locations...there is a voucher program also.
2) You should qualify for foodstamps. You are a family of 3 living on less than $1,000 a month (I think).
The monthly gross income limit is $1984. You can deduct medical expenses.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:04:11 PM)

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1)You may be able to find nice section 8 housing... it does really exist in some locations...there is a voucher program also.
2) You should qualify for foodstamps. You are a family of 3 living on less than $1,000 a month (I think).
The monthly gross income limit is $1984. You can deduct medical expenses.


This and:

3) you can sometimes find nice furniture on Freecycle.




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:05:16 PM)

While I have found this thread to be entertaining, probably due to the fact that I am housebound & taking pain pills, it has nowhere near the amusement factor of the taptap thread. That was delicious comedy!!! Even if it may not have been intentional.




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:09:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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1)You may be able to find nice section 8 housing... it does really exist in some locations...there is a voucher program also.
2) You should qualify for foodstamps. You are a family of 3 living on less than $1,000 a month (I think).
The monthly gross income limit is $1984. You can deduct medical expenses.


This and:

3) you can sometimes find nice furniture on Freecycle.



I moved into this apt with no furniture of my own. I ended up buying a twin sized bed so I could sleep on something relatively good for my physical problems. I had my dishes & my clothes & not much else. I've slowly bought things, & I've bought some really cheap things, like pots & pans, because I had none & cheap ones are lots better than no pots & pans. When you need to do something, you will find a way to do it. And you will stop with the excuses about why you can't do it. My little home with pretty much nothing in it is so much better than the homelessness of the previous 18 months. And I am so grateful for that. I was taught humility & I took the lesson to heart!!




Phoenixpower -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:25:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tammystarm
should you really pick on someone, who is actually trying to get off disibility instead of living off it?????? Curious. NOT that having to be on disibility is bad, i thank God that our country has it, BUT i mean come on, everyday i goto school it kills me, im hurting so bad that ive popped so many damn ibuprofens etc and still drive home with my shoulders to my ears and one fist balled up in my back.... and i do it again. SOOOOO as you can imagine that when i get home and the house is a scattered mess, with two (now) kids living there and its their messes YEAH i get pretty freaking upset. just saying.......


So what? [8|]

I know many people who suffer from severe health issues, some of them don't receive benefits as you do, and have kids or elderly parents to look after as well and go to school without whining about it [8|]




Charnegui -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:36:10 PM)

I am in on this with MissLinn..........

You do not need expensive stuff, you need stuff that's actually needed.
To live without a roof over your head, makes you very, very humble indeed.

*Stands up and applaude for MissLinn*




angelikaJ -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:38:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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1)You may be able to find nice section 8 housing... it does really exist in some locations...there is a voucher program also.
2) You should qualify for foodstamps. You are a family of 3 living on less than $1,000 a month (I think).
The monthly gross income limit is $1984. You can deduct medical expenses.


This and:

3) you can sometimes find nice furniture on Freecycle.



I moved into this apt with no furniture of my own. I ended up buying a twin sized bed so I could sleep on something relatively good for my physical problems. I had my dishes & my clothes & not much else. I've slowly bought things, & I've bought some really cheap things, like pots & pans, because I had none & cheap ones are lots better than no pots & pans. When you need to do something, you will find a way to do it. And you will stop with the excuses about why you can't do it. My little home with pretty much nothing in it is so much better than the homelessness of the previous 18 months. And I am so grateful for that. I was taught humility & I took the lesson to heart!!


My local Sal's has sofas and such sometimes a sofa and matching chair or loveseat for around $70. They look new.
Sal's is a good way to buy all the odd household goods like a coffee maker.





LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 1:44:05 PM)

As soon as I get a little extra money, I'm heading to the local Sally's, Miss Jellie. For now I got some incredible bargains, like a new coffeemaker for $8 at WalMart. And Lushy left some furniture here so I'm not too desperate for more.

Some people, after a period of homelessness, try to replace all that they lost & they accumulate a lot of stuff again. My reaction has been to try to keep the things I own down to a minimum. I worry that I will end up homeless again & I will have to say goodbye to treasures again. It was very heart-wrenching for me to decide what to get rid of & what to keep. So I think that I don't want to go through those feelings again.




LaTigresse -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 2:11:38 PM)

Goodwill and Stuff are my favourite places. And I can afford new. I just love a great deal!

Generic Dude's office was furnished almost entirely out of second hand stores. It looks fabulous and didn't cost a fortune.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 2:27:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tammystarm

ok anyone interested, I have never and will never put my kids last in anything. We have and will do without alot of things, probably for a good while..... my kids are stable, though extremely stubborn and hates doing any kind of work, which really aggravates me cause i did have a major high standard work ethic, and i just dont get them.... but i promise if my kids could tell ya, they dont want any other mom in the world, that they are very lucky and spoiled.

The main reason just so yanno with Art and i, is that when we moved in together, our relationship changed so drastically, he had to share me with the kids ALOT, he saw the hidden im in so much pain that i could kill you side, we never went out and did anything together, and then he never wanted to raise anymore kids, and mine as i said are stubborn, they saw that, even though he spoiled them as well, and they used it to tear at every angle, it was too much for him to handle. My depression got so bad i started doing things like spending money alot and that caused major havic....... so the mutually love is still there, but we have fought so much and said and did so much that well it could never work. Its rather disturbing..... i am have certainly come to the conslusion that i/we (the kids and i) are better off on our own. We (again kids and i)carry so much baggage no one can survive us. We've been through too much together.


Yet, Art's journal talks about how often he went to the Mark. Guess you just stayed home and he went alone.

How, when living with someone else, did you manage to run up bills that you now must be responsible for? I guess Art graciously took your disability checks for your contribution to household costs. Of course, considering the cost of housing in Tennessee is far less than where I live up north.

Do your children get Social Security benefits? Not only would they qualify because you are collecting disability, but they qualify due to the death of their father. I'm not sure how much extra it would be, but my memory tells me it is at least a third each of what you get. If the $850 a month in disability includes their benefits, then you never really worked much at all, since disability (as well as "regular" Social Security) is based on the income you made during the time you worked.

As for not qualifying for any benefits, you get medical benefits with your disability and the kids should also get medical benefits. If TN has a form of "kid care," then they will have very good benefits. Also, you could qualify for medicaid which would not only give you added insurance, it would cover the cost of your medicare payments. Given the cost of housing and utilities, you very well might qualify for food stamps, even though you will not qualify for any cash assistance.

You are permitted to work part time while collecting disability. Even if you only made a hundred bucks a week part time (which would be about 13 hours a week at minimum wage), that's $400 a month. Problem is you need to be diligent about looking, which you obvioiusly have decided not to be.

If you haven't applied for benefits for your children, then get out and do it. If you were turned down for any Social Services help because you were living with Art (which would have disqualified you), then go and apply again. You could even get help from them for a security deposit on a new place.

Social Security, disability and Social Services are not regulated at the state level, they are federal programs. Most Social Services agencies also have contacts with organizations that donate further.

Yes, getting all these things is a lot of work, but it is for your kids that you keep saying come first.

There is no excuse for why you haven't applied for Social Security benefits for your children. Your shame and embarassment makes no difference. That money is for your children. If you let your personal feelings interfere with getting those for your children, then you have no right saying your kids come first, because your actions belie your words.

I've no doubt that once you finish school and get your certification, which won't arrive before January, that you will either work in the field for a short time before deciding you want to do something else, or you will just choose to go on to something else.

Oh yea, and one of the reasons you might not qualify for Social Services assistance is because they feel with all of your degrees, certifications and qualifications, you should be looking for a job, not deciding on a new career. Social Services is funny that way, they expect you to make every effort to find a job, which you don't want to do, being the perpetual student and all.

I repeat what I and others have said all along. Use your insurance and get yourself to a therapist to find out why you would rather stay in school "perpetually" instead of being a grown up and supporting your children.

ETA:

Also, no "court ordered" community service program requires children to go on field trips as a reward for doing what they were court ordered to do. Likewise, if you had doctor's notes to prove your child's sickness was the reason for missing so much school, community service wouldn't have been ordered. In fact, they would have put your child on home tutoring during that time. How do I know this? Been through it with my own kid.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 2:38:37 PM)

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. Likewise, if you had doctor's notes to prove your child's sickness was the reason for missing so much school, community service wouldn't have been ordered. In fact, they would have put your child on home tutoring during that time. How do I know this? Been through it with my own kid.


Actually, an investigation would have been done.  Then if other problems were found (things like that often being mere symptoms of larger problems), then yes, other services could have been ordered. 





AlwaysLisa -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 2:42:29 PM)

I also took the time to locate the website for the office of DSHS, for Tenn., which was posted here.   Unless TN has a very low min income line, she should qualify for food stamps, medical AND cash on 850 a month, especially since now there is rent and utilities to be paid.   I know here, they help those with kids first, so I'm not understanding why there is no help available, based on what we were told.  

http://www.tn.gov/humanserv/   (again)

I didn't read the site, but if it's like WA, you can do your application online, to get the ball rolling. 






AlwaysLisa -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 2:46:30 PM)

http://tn.gov/humanserv/adfam/fs-test.pdf

This is the chart guideline for Food Stamps, in TN....I'd say you more then qualify on 850.00.  




Arpig -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 2:56:31 PM)

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Goodwill and Stuff are my favourite places. And I can afford new. I just love a great deal!
One of the things I am most proud of about the way my daughter turned out is that she is the same way. Her favourite places to go shopping are places like Winners, or the funky little second hand stores. Not only does she manage to have a ton of clothes without spending a ton, she has a very unique style as well...not anything particularly flashy or out there, but definitely her own style that says "Emma"...no generic chick for her.




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 3:01:04 PM)

When I first moved to Chicagoland, it was my intention to find a part-time job to supplement my Social Security Retirement payments. Unfortunately, my pain went to a level that precludes my working at this time. So once I realized that this pain was probably not going to go away this month, I went online & applied for food stamps & medical assistance. According to their chart, I qualify for $200 worth of food stamps by myself. It was difficult for me to accept that I needed to do that, but if I don't do it, I will end up homeless again. And that's not a place I ever want to go again. So I sat here & cried for a few days & then put in the application. I've not heard back, but due to my age & my inability to find work just now, I don't see why they won't give me these benefits.

It's difficult to accept that one needs outside help, but one also needs to be realistic & fuck a bunch of pride!!! Especially when there are children who need to eat & receive medical care. If the kids really come first, one has to do what needs to be done in order for them to have a good quality of life. Not applying for this stuff due to pride & shame is making the children suffer because of your own stuff. Not ok!!




Arpig -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 3:01:27 PM)

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Likewise, if you had doctor's notes to prove your child's sickness was the reason for missing so much school, community service wouldn't have been ordered. In fact, they would have put your child on home tutoring during that time. How do I know this? Been through it with my own kid.
Exactly!! My eldest son has missed several months of school this year due to medical issues, and there was no fuss or bother from the school. They arranged for extra work so he could keep up and not lose the year. There was no investigation or anything, we provided them the details and some documentation and that was all they needed.

Maybe it's different in TN, but if the courts were involved at all I suspect there wasn't any "sickness" to begin with.




risktaker9 -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 3:04:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tammystarm

ok anyone interested, I have never and will never put my kids last in anything. We have and will do without alot of things, probably for a good while..... my kids are stable, though extremely stubborn and hates doing any kind of work, which really aggravates me cause i did have a major high standard work ethic, and i just dont get them.... but i promise if my kids could tell ya, they dont want any other mom in the world, that they are very lucky and spoiled.

The main reason just so yanno with Art and i, is that when we moved in together, our relationship changed so drastically, he had to share me with the kids ALOT, he saw the hidden im in so much pain that i could kill you side, we never went out and did anything together, and then he never wanted to raise anymore kids, and mine as i said are stubborn, they saw that, even though he spoiled them as well, and they used it to tear at every angle, it was too much for him to handle. My depression got so bad i started doing things like spending money alot and that caused major havic....... so the mutually love is still there, but we have fought so much and said and did so much that well it could never work. Its rather disturbing..... i am have certainly come to the conslusion that i/we (the kids and i) are better off on our own. We (again kids and i)carry so much baggage no one can survive us. We've been through too much together.


Yes, you have put your kids last. By refusing to discipline them and letting them be 'lucky and spoiled' you are not parenting them. You put them last when you moved in with the bf and let them live through all that drama. You put them last when you are a perennial student. You put them last when you don't get help with your illness.

Things just don't add up. The quantity of schooling for nothing. The pie in the sky attitude that fuels yet more time in school when you should be working. The disease that doesn't seem to be addressed. The sheer amount of excuses given on all these subjects is amazing. Honestly, you seem to like a precarious, drama-filled life. Also, with the amount of schooling that you've had,your postings are riddled with not just spelling errors,but horrific grammar. It just doesn't make sense.

In the real world people don't get dream jobs that fit their own special requirements. Children don't learn responsibilty by themselves and you don't get anyfuckingwhere by picking up and moving on to the next thing that looks good on the outside when the thing you're doing at the time turns out to be not exactly what you wanted. When are you going to grow up?




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 3:08:59 PM)

Very well said, risktaker. I doubt it will do the OP much good to read it, but there are most definitely others who can benefit from that type of talk. I hope that you stick around & keep posting. You iz a wise woman!!




LadyPact -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 3:25:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

I can't decide whether the play by play coverage of the breakup of this relationship is trendy and therapeutic or tacky and embarrassing. Art came across as a real tool, what with the making you get rid of the cats and his defense of his free loader daughter, but if you loved him so much, why oh why are you disclosing all these personal details? That might be painful for him. So, is this some passive aggressive way to get even for his wrongs?
In any case, now I remember why I hate reality tv shows. This stuff is entertaining in a train wreck way, but not in a healthy way.

Due to a quote that roamed across the scroll, I came back to the thread to say the very same thing.  It seems to Me that the decision has been made to move out and that is pretty much enough on that bit.  Not 'oh, boo-hoo-hoo' a profile has been changed to reflect the change in the relationship or now that it's over, oh, it was so bad because Art did this, and this, and this.  Then, it's 'oh I still care about him but we can't live together'.  If that really is the case, have some respect for the person and maybe do the nursing the wounds bit in confidence with a friend or two, rather than post it for public consumption.  It's no secret that we're not talking about a very popular fellow and it wouldn't even surprise Me if some folks are thinking of the situation in less than friendly light for other things that have transpired around here.  Yet, no matter what people think of the players in this little drama, Art deserves at least the common courtesy of not having everything that should be remaining private plastered on a message board.

To the OP, I do hope that you will take some of the advice from LL to heart about some options that may be available to you.  Your eligibility for food stamps will change the minute the size and total income of the household changes.  If you have a place of your own, it's a household of three, based on the income that you are receiving. 

For household goods and items that you need, I really hope that you are listening to Lin.  She knows what she is talking about.  I might even do some poking around on threads over on Fet from the local kink community.  You never know when somebody is giving away a couch they don't want anymore or something like that.  (Couldn't hurt, right?)  I'm not saying drag the break up into a public forum over there, either, but there might be some resources that you aren't aware of from people that you already know. 




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/11/2011 3:30:43 PM)

My entire house is decorated with junque. Yard sales, Goodwill, second hand stores, hell I have one awesome table that I got off the side of the road that someone else had put out for trash.

I lived here for almost a year, with one chair in the living room, because I refuse to pay the price wanted for new stuff, and I couldn't find what I wanted anywhere for cheap.

Work on getting comfy beds first, then move on from there. You can get bunches of stuff at the Dollar Bills here, where everything is a dollar.





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