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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 3:34:24 PM   
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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 3:37:41 PM   
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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 3:38:15 PM   
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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 3:56:15 PM   
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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:01:26 PM   
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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:18:21 PM   
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"Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009



Oh, you want her to clarify that there hasnt been one VALID study that shows CO2 is harmful?

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:24:45 PM   
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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:30:00 PM   
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There has been.



Wrong.

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:32:06 PM   
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A Stanford scientist has spelled out for the first time the direct links between increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and increases in human mortality, using a state-of-the-art computer model of the atmosphere that incorporates scores of physical and chemical environmental processes. The new findings, to be published in Geophysical Research Letters, come to light just after the Environmental Protection Agency's recent ruling against states setting specific emission standards for this greenhouse gas based in part on the lack of data showing the link between carbon dioxide emissions and their health effects.

"This is a cause and effect relationship, not just a correlation," said Jacobson of his study, which on Dec. 24 was accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters. "The study is the first specifically to isolate carbon dioxide's effect from that of other global-warming agents and to find quantitatively that chemical and meteorological changes due to carbon dioxide itself increase mortality due to increased ozone, particles and carcinogens in the air."





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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:46:31 PM   
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There has been.



Wrong.


And she should have known since that scientist gave testimony before the House

http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/040908_testimony.htm

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 4:54:33 PM   
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There has been.



Wrong.


And she should have known since that scientist gave testimony before the House

http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/040908_testimony.htm


Even if his study is valid that CO2 leads to increased mortality, it doesnt address whether LACK of CO2 might lead to even worse increases in mortality.

"harmful" is relative. Nice try though.

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:02:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I said, she should have known that study existed.

Dont blame me for pointing out her lack of intelligence on matters concerning the House.

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:05:18 PM   
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As I said, she should have known that study existed.

Dont blame me for pointing out her lack of intelligence on matters concerning the House.


Who says she didnt? I know the study exists, I also know that it doesnt prove that increased CO2 increases mortality more than global cooling would.

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:08:31 PM   
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Who says she didnt? I know the study exists, I also know that it doesnt prove that increased CO2 increases mortality more than global cooling would.


Other than the fact that his results state it does prove that.

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:11:08 PM   
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Even if his study is valid that CO2 leads to increased mortality, it doesnt address whether LACK of CO2 might lead to even worse increases in mortality.

"harmful" is relative. Nice try though.


What happens when there is no CO2?

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:12:44 PM   
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Ah so now you are stating it isnt a valid study.

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Who says she didnt? I know the study exists, I also know that it doesnt prove that increased CO2 increases mortality more than global cooling would.


Other than the fact that his results state it does prove that.



Link the study then, because the summary you linked doesnt say that.

Edit: nor does his written testimony

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:14:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		A Stanford scientist has spelled out for the first time the direct links between increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and increases in human mortality, using a state-of-the-art computer model of the atmosphere that incorporates scores of physical and chemical environmental processes. The new findings, to be published in Geophysical Research Letters, come to light just after the Environmental Protection Agency's recent ruling against states setting specific emission standards for this greenhouse gas based in part on the lack of data showing the link between carbon dioxide emissions and their health effects.

"This is a cause and effect relationship, not just a correlation," said Jacobson of his study, which on Dec. 24 was accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters. "The study is the first specifically to isolate carbon dioxide's effect from that of other global-warming agents and to find quantitatively that chemical and meteorological changes due to carbon dioxide itself increase mortality due to increased ozone, particles and carcinogens in the air."

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:17:39 PM   
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A Stanford scientist has spelled out for the first time the direct links between increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and increases in human mortality, using a state-of-the-art computer model of the atmosphere that incorporates scores of physical and chemical environmental processes. The new findings, to be published in Geophysical Research Letters, come to light just after the Environmental Protection Agency's recent ruling against states setting specific emission standards for this greenhouse gas based in part on the lack of data showing the link between carbon dioxide emissions and their health effects.

"This is a cause and effect relationship, not just a correlation," said Jacobson of his study, which on Dec. 24 was accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters. "The study is the first specifically to isolate carbon dioxide's effect from that of other global-warming agents and to find quantitatively that chemical and meteorological changes due to carbon dioxide itself increase mortality due to increased ozone, particles and carcinogens in the air."


Why repost the same thing, which does not mention the potential deleterious effects of lack of CO2? It only studies INCREASES from the current level, not DECREASES.

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RE: Michelle Bachman Compares Herself To Sociopathic S... - 6/28/2011 5:19:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly... Bachmann's quote says nothing about it being harmful when lacking.

"Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009



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