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bigblock61 -> Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:05:15 PM)

Do you mess with the vanilla people that surround you in daily life? I love to people watch in my spare time only because humanity can be really entertaining. The reason I'm asking is because I'm training a new guy at work to build transmissions. I told him that he doesn't have to call me Master, Sir will do. I also told him that he has to pay a daily tribute of coffee every morning. This went on for about a week before he figured out that I was messing with him. The whole place thought it was hysterical to watch him bring me coffee first thing every morning and I did smack him upside the head once when he forgot. I really couldn't believe he let me do it.




poise -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:08:38 PM)

Do you mean specifically mess with them in a D/s innuendo kind of way? [:-]
No.




littlewonder -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:09:45 PM)

no...see no reason to. Most people bore me too much to even want to interact them in any way whatsoever. I usually go about my work with as little interaction as possible.




LadyPact -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:09:45 PM)

No.  I actually don't think it's any better for Me to force My kink on other people than any other belief system trying to impose their lifestyle upon Me.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:19:36 PM)

No, I find manipulating others for entertainment to be in poor taste.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:25:37 PM)

No.

They don't force their beliefs on Me and I don't force mine on them.

It's a maturity thing.




ThundersCry -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:29:22 PM)

Lifes a daily grind from many...people.

Why would you want to mess with...them <shrugs>




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:29:50 PM)

nope, i'm just my normal charming self. that fucks with their heads plenty good as it is, thanks.




DecadentDesire -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:38:28 PM)

I try not to stuff the other 90% of the world into a box and call them "vanillas" so yeah...I guess I don't "mess" with them.




Sekspuppet -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:40:47 PM)

Not a good idea. Not to mention striking a subordinate at work is ample grounds for dismissal.




Muttling -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/27/2011 8:44:18 PM)

LMAO!!!!

I actually mess with the known kinksters in my life.   I push them to do very vanilla things.   




LadyConstanze -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 2:28:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigblock61

The whole place thought it was hysterical to watch him bring me coffee first thing every morning and I did smack him upside the head once when he forgot. I really couldn't believe he let me do it.



You're lucky that you work with people who seem to be easily entertained and not burdened by ethics, I can't believe that nobody reported you, they must be pretty spineless. Do you also tear the wings from butterflies and kick kittens "because they let you do it"?

Sorry, doing that stuff at the work place is in pretty poor taste, and you're risking your job - take a look at the economy and think if you really want to risk dismissal and trying to find new employment.




Aileen1968 -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 2:33:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigblock61

Do you mess with the vanilla people that surround you in daily life? I love to people watch in my spare time only because humanity can be really entertaining. The reason I'm asking is because I'm training a new guy at work to build transmissions. I told him that he doesn't have to call me Master, Sir will do. I also told him that he has to pay a daily tribute of coffee every morning. This went on for about a week before he figured out that I was messing with him. The whole place thought it was hysterical to watch him bring me coffee first thing every morning and I did smack him upside the head once when he forgot. I really couldn't believe he let me do it.



I actually found that to be funny.
Everyone needs to lighten up just a little.
What we do isn't all that special and godlike.




RapierFugue -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 2:52:01 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigblock61

Do you mess with the vanilla people that surround you in daily life? I love to people watch in my spare time only because humanity can be really entertaining. The reason I'm asking is because I'm training a new guy at work to build transmissions. I told him that he doesn't have to call me Master, Sir will do. I also told him that he has to pay a daily tribute of coffee every morning. This went on for about a week before he figured out that I was messing with him. The whole place thought it was hysterical to watch him bring me coffee first thing every morning and I did smack him upside the head once when he forgot. I really couldn't believe he let me do it.


You could have saved all that effort by just posting "I'm a spineless bully" and we'd have known what you meant.

The last guy to strike me in a "jokey" way in a work environment found himself pinned against a wall about a half-second later, and left the situation in no doubts as to what I'd do to him the next time he tried it. He never tried it again, with me, but continued to be "physical" with other subordinates although strangely, never in my sight. Later, I got promoted above him and ended up firing the arrogant, bullying little shit for being ... well, an arrogant, bullying little shit. I don't generally enjoy firing people, even when it's their fault, but that one I will confess to enjoying no end.

It's the 21st century. Most of us still have to go to work, but these days no-one has to put up with any crap from wannabe "dominants" and total tossers, in a work environment. Get with the programme or you're going to have a somewhat lean time of things, coz most companies of any size are wise to the lawsuits that follow on from bullying staff.

On a broader theme, I don't consider it fair, or right, to include people in my kinks who haven't given specific consent, ergo I don't "mess" with non-BDSM individuals IRL. Unless, of course, they ask for it or deserve it.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 3:04:05 AM)

You know I could understand the "Don't call me Master, Sir will do" joke if it was said with a grin and a wink, the coffee tribute errr, not funny, but smacking somebody you train or even anybody at the workplace, no excuse.

The guy is trying to learn something, he's is possibly terrified, anybody with the skills to train would not try to make his trainee even more uncomfy or bully him about. That alone makes the person behaving like that absolutely not qualified.

I'm not at all for being PC, at work we do sometimes make slightly risky jokes to let off steam (especially when something needed to be fixed and we all just did a few hours of overtime and then kick back), but we know each other pretty well and it's within the department, if anybody feels uncomfy about it (and they don't need to speak up, you can tell by their reaction) - that's it then, it's going to be toned down. Not just because people who are comfortable are more productive, also out of respect for colleagues.




RapierFugue -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 3:54:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I'm not at all for being PC, at work we do sometimes make slightly risky jokes to let off steam (especially when something needed to be fixed and we all just did a few hours of overtime and then kick back), but we know each other pretty well and it's within the department, if anybody feels uncomfy about it (and they don't need to speak up, you can tell by their reaction) - that's it then, it's going to be toned down. Not just because people who are comfortable are more productive, also out of respect for colleagues.


I'm about the least "PC" manager you could possibly meet, and my take on “comments” is it's context that matters; among colleagues who know each other well and know each other’s mentalities it’s fine within the boundaries that the team/group work to and set for themselves, and people with any sense of empathy are generally capable of working out when it’s gone too far. If not, a comment from me is almost always enough to sort the situation. What I would point up though is it can make life more difficult for new team members, especially younger ones, as the degree of “comment” is something that's hard for an “outsider” to judge, and work to. But so long as the rest of the team understand that, and make allowances for it (again, with me leading them carefully to the correct conclusions if necessary) then it’s not automatically a bad thing.

But bullying is a totally separate subject in my opinion; as I said, we all have to work unless we’re independently wealthy, therefore a person has no choice but to be there, and do certain work, in order to earn a living. It’s the 21st century; “boys games” (although women can be dreadful bullies too, I should add) and bullying aren’t acceptable anymore (and never were to me, and I was well ahead of the game in this respect, from years back), and regardless of someone’s race, religion, gender, sexual preference or personal beliefs they have the right to go to work and perform their duties without being subject to duress or threat, be it physical or verbal. I simply won’t have it, and it’s very rarely that I need to speak to someone twice.

It’s also my experience, through observation, that bullies make terrible employees; they're generally lazy (bullying is often geared towards them offloading more work onto others than they would otherwise be able to), and waste more time establishing and maintaining the “hierarchy” as they see it than they do actually performing the tasks I'm employing them to do. In addition, bullying is an extreme form of cowardice, and again it’s been my experience that those who participate in it on an ongoing basis either lack the empathy required to work in a team (and almost all modern work is team-based to some degree), or the moral courage required to take tough decisions and see them through (especially important in my sphere of work). Ergo whenever I see someone bullying a work colleague it immediately rings alarm bells for me.

The only exception to this I've seen was a chap who worked with me (not for me at that time, although I later recruited him for a team I was setting up on behalf of a larger company) some 15 years ago; he was a terrible verbal bully to everyone, and we had a couple of mild run-ins before I finally unloaded on him verbally (in a calm, thoughtful fashion - I don't generally do "angry" unless it's a tactical choice on my part). It became rapidly obvious that his bullying stemmed from his own insecurities, as well as a total lack of empathy for the feelings of others, yet he didn’t, upon having an in-depth conversation with him, strike me as a “bad” person. So we had a few extended chats over the course of a few evenings, with me pointing up his methods and why they didn’t produce a happy working environment, and he actually turned around 180 degrees. He simply wasn’t aware of what he was doing or, on those rare occasions when he did, he didn’t understand the degree to which he was upsetting people. Within 3 months he was a totally different person, and genuinely so, not just an act. Never seen anything like it, before or since. So I guess there is hope. For some.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 4:49:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


It’s also my experience, through observation, that bullies make terrible employees; they're generally lazy (bullying is often geared towards them offloading more work onto others than they would otherwise be able to), and waste more time establishing and maintaining the “hierarchy” as they see it than they do actually performing the tasks I'm employing them to do. In addition, bullying is an extreme form of cowardice, and again it’s been my experience that those who participate in it on an ongoing basis either lack the empathy required to work in a team (and almost all modern work is team-based to some degree), or the moral courage required to take tough decisions and see them through (especially important in my sphere of work). Ergo whenever I see someone bullying a work colleague it immediately rings alarm bells for me.





Funny, we had a similar conversation a few weeks ago, the company is doing a fair share of consulting, so usually when we're called in to see why a project doesn't work (runs over budget, over time, doesn't get results, etc.), in about 90% of all cases the company knows why but they want somebody from outside to point out the problem, and in most cases it is some bully who's not handling the team right, doesn't understand the project or the aim, is on an ego trip, uses intimidation and surrounds himself with people who will never be a threat to them, in a lot of cases they eliminate qualified people because they could show them up, or the people capable of working on the project get frustrated and quit or asked to be transferred to another project or department.

It just seems that companies could easily solve the problem themselves, but the people in charge are often too afraid to take the blame for pointing out the culprit, which of course encourages such behaviour to go on long enough to cause a problem to a project or department.

Funniest one was somebody taking over the PR department and changing everything, decided to reach a wider audience and instead of using the trade press (it was something geared towards developers and architects) thought it would be smart to use dailies, they did reach a wider audience but got a fraction of the ROI than before, anybody objecting in the department was found guilty of trumped up stuff by the manager... Made me wonder why they needed "outsiders" to tell them, but hey, their money...




sexyred1 -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 4:57:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bigblock61

Do you mess with the vanilla people that surround you in daily life? I love to people watch in my spare time only because humanity can be really entertaining. The reason I'm asking is because I'm training a new guy at work to build transmissions. I told him that he doesn't have to call me Master, Sir will do. I also told him that he has to pay a daily tribute of coffee every morning. This went on for about a week before he figured out that I was messing with him. The whole place thought it was hysterical to watch him bring me coffee first thing every morning and I did smack him upside the head once when he forgot. I really couldn't believe he let me do it.



No. And I think the fact that you have confused your work life and being dominant is to your detriment.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 4:58:21 AM)

I tell my students that in my classroom they really don't get to vote.  They can speak their mind, but really it is a dictatorship (and I'm a benevolent dictator, dangit!)  .  During review, I asked what is the difference between a democracy and a dictatorship.  One of the students said "A democracy is when Miss Sunshine has had her coffee.  A dictatorship is when she hasn't."  Smart kids.





PeonForHer -> RE: Do you mess with the vanilla's in your life? (6/28/2011 5:00:40 AM)

Whoa . . .

I thought this thread was about light-hearted, flirty kinds of D/s behaviour with people who one has assumed to be vanilla. (*That* sense of 'messing with'.) I was going to add my bit about calling certain sexy women I've come across 'Ma'am' under my breath .

And the coffee anecdote in the OP . . . . Oh yes, I'd have found that horny from a female colleague or boss, given the right number of smiles on both sides beforehand.




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