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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 7:18:02 AM

LaTigresse

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I agree with a previous post.......most all are clueless dumbasses just looking for the easiest piece of ass. The poor boys just cannot help themselves or just choose not to. If "A" is not getting the attention of the woman who's photo they are drooling after then lets try "B". Mine experience has been much the same I am sure. Though I enjoy tossing in the whole........"ahhhhhhh lesbian!" line just for good measure. Truth be told, men do not gross me out, I have had relationships with three, no reason to hate them. I don't particularly find their bits appealing and am just at a place in life that I have no need for one in my bed. I just find women far FAR more appealing. I will even go so far as to say I can imagine having fun with switching roles in play with a woman I am in a relationship with, if the other woman was able to handle it. I am very secure in myself and like to enjoy life, I am a playful person and don't feel the need to take myself all that seriously. On the whole I am a pretty calm mellow individual that does not get too worked up about much of anything. I try and be careful how I pick my battles... Is it really that important to me, how important is it to the other person?...etc....when I do demand something, its not taken lightly. However, I could not change my personality and become completely submissive in all contexts of the relationship, it would just make me miserable because it is simply not me, not my nature at all. It would at least have to be a very mature partnership with alot of respect and common ground. Alot of comunication would be required to avoid some serious head butting.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 7:25:49 AM

WantonThroat

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I am actually one of those Dominant women who gave up my Domme status...but only to one man.

I am an owned slave, but still enjoy my dominant side whenever I wish to play (and he allows)

I dont consider myself switch. I am only submissive to Him, or those he wishes me to be submissive to, however my overall demeanor is to be in control.

s.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 7:36:11 AM

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You know Tiger Lady, I could see myself in a switch situation dominating a female; doing to her all of the delightfully wicked things that I love to have done to me. However, I could never dominate a male. Don't get me wrong, I have been in positions in my professional life where I have had male subordinates, but I would not want a man to submit to me. It makes me queasy to think of spanking a man. Ewwww!

So for me, the idea of a Dom deciding that he wants to submit puzzles me; That is just not how I perceive a Dom to be wired. Then again what do I know. I may be wrong.

angelface

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 7:40:04 AM

Sinergy

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Because some "dominant" men wholeheartedly believe that dominant women are just submissives waiting for the right "Master". Kinda like they believe all women are bi-sexual.

Dont forget those who think that a woman is a lesbian because
she has not had sex with the right man yet.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 7:43:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

Besides, if a guy hits on ten women in a bar 9 of them may slap him in the face but that last one...well, he just struck gold.

In middle and early high school, my friends and I referred to this as the Rule Of Five Percent. To whit, if you walk up to 20 women and ask them flat out if they want to go bump fuzzies, 1 will say yes.

Now I am older and more geezerly, and tend to not be all that interested in having sex with the 1 who would say yes.

But that is just me, and I could be wrong.

Sinergy

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 8:50:46 AM

Lordandmaster

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A domme doesn't have to give up her "dominant status" in order to submit. Life is full of many flavors, Lashra.

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

There have been a few posts here about Dom's asking Dominant women to give up their Dominant status to become their submissives.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 9:50:26 AM

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Switching can be fun, a "pushing the envelope" experience, though I can't say I've had a lot of experience in this regard. A lot would depend on how the asking is done. A request like, "I know U wanna B submissive 2 me biotch, all women are really sub & U need to B put in ur natural place B4 a MAN!" is laughable, and that's pretty much the majority of the requests of that nature I've gotten. Amusingly enough they are sometimes followed by a request to sub to me, but I can't ever tell anyone about our scene because the Domly-Dom is too ashamed of the idea of letting anyone know that he secretly wants to switch. Er, sorry, but if you're not man enough to own up to your desires and actions, you're not man enough to submit to me.

A proposal like, "I really like your energy, a scene with you would be a lot of fun, would you be willing to switch with me?" would be much more seriously considered. Particularly if there was an offer to take turns.

I could theoretically identify myself as a switch, but it's really been pretty theoretical since I really never get around to practicing what I preach in this regard. LOL

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 10:47:16 AM

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I’ve had a few Dominant men inquire me about being submissive, but it was mainly strangers I’d never met, messaging me with a line like "When you’re ready to be my slave, let me know." To which, I hit ‘delete’ and never hear from them again. It’s only happened a few times. I’ve also had a few Dominant men message me wanting to submit to me. Same scenario. Neither is a trend I see happening on any kind of consistent basis, or even often enough to arouse my curiosity about the "why" behind it. Either way, it’s not my place to judge them on why they are doing things. They might be clueless or assholes or idiots. On the other hand, they might be sincere gentlemen who aren’t afraid to seek out what they want. I don’t go for the whole ‘male Dom bashing’ thing based on a few people whom I don’t understand.
Personally, I’d be more interested in a Dominant man messaging me looking for a Dominant woman as a mate and the two of us could share a home and some subbies…. but that’s an entirely different thread.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 12:50:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

I'm just curious about something and I'd like to get some different views on it.

There have been a few posts here about Dom's asking Dominant women to give up their Dominant status to become their submissives.

I'm wondering why do these men believe that is something so easily done?

Because in their mind it is just the 'natural' state (therefore easier) for a woman to be submissive and so, to be given the unparallelled opportunity to submit to one of his stature would just make the transition even easier.

quote:

and secondly, why do they think a woman would even entertain such an idea?

Because he, in his God-like wisdom, knows that she is "really tired of entertaining such a contrary notion that a woman could be a dominant force in any way. Poor thing...such a heavy load for someone who is, after all, just a woman."

quote:

Thirdly would these same men be willing to give up their Dom status to submit to a woman?

~sigh~...if only they just could. But the world is full of poor, misguided women who need to be brought back to the side of light where the truth and reason of man's superiority reigns.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 1:06:17 PM

Bearlee

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<raises an eyebrow> ...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 1:26:48 PM

tade

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Personally I would say that just typing D O M in your profile does not make you a true dominant. My wife doesn't have an overtly dominant personality, and although she tried, being physically submissive just wasn't for her. Knowing that I would never want her to "Bow down before me" Blah Blah Blah... Not when I know just how much fun it is to watch her work once she learned that she liked my side of the whip so much. LOL

I think that alot of men are threatened by strong willed women, be they dominant, submissive or otherwise. Maybe it goes back to a teacher, or Mom, or who the hell knows. As for me, they just get me that much hotter. Always was a sucker for the girls that could keep up with the boys...

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 2:28:45 PM

bandit25

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Even better...all women are bi sexual. I really don't get that one.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 5:02:41 PM

CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Even better...all women are bi sexual. I really don't get that one.

Because women are just so much more available emotionally than any man could ever be which of course leads to a physical attraction...need responds to nurture and vice-versa...

Because a woman's body is so much more soft and supple, it is more appealing sensually and therefore, all are attracted...even other women...

Because we alllllllllll suckled at our mother's breast and since we are all trying to get back to being that baby...

Through my years of study in college and chiropractic college, I've read or heard expressed all of these views as the explanation why all women were bisexual.

None of them make a lot of sense to me. I think that, for a lot of men (not all), it just fuels the almost universal fantasy of having two women instead of one to play with.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 5:40:04 PM

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Because women are just so much more available emotionally than any man could ever be which of course leads to a physical attraction...need responds to nurture and vice-versa...

Wow,

This has been empirically proven in each and every case?

Learn something new every day.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 5:45:07 PM

Estring

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Men who believe they are "gods" and pro dommes who believe that women are always higher are both wrong.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 5:47:42 PM

CreativeDominant

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Because women are just so much more available emotionally than any man could ever be which of course leads to a physical attraction...need responds to nurture and vice-versa...

Wow,

This has been empirically proven in each and every case?

Learn something new every day.

-- Sinergy

Of course not. As I noted, they were all views (theories) expressed as the reasons for the stated premise that all women were bisexual. Also, as stated, they never made a lot of sense to me. Of course, I was just a student trying to become a doctor...I wasn't a learned Ph.D.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 6:34:57 PM

Lashra

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

A domme doesn't have to give up her "dominant status" in order to submit. Life is full of many flavors, Lashra.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

There have been a few posts here about Dom's asking Dominant women to give up their Dominant status to become their submissives.

True, I myself switch with my sub occasionally, does this make me any less a Dominant? Heck no. But I have run across Dom's and so have other Domme's, who want us to give up our Dominant traits to embrace submissive ones. It's almost like he cannot handle a switch, perhaps the thought that she may wish to Dominant him give him the willies? Maybe...
I never asked my sub to give up being a Dom, just to try being a switch. He did and voluntarily gave up being a Dom, it just wasn't who he was, but that choice was always his to make. I never assumed or pressured him.

~Lashra

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/16/2006 6:41:48 PM

feastie

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Because we alllllllllll suckled at our mother's breast and since we are all trying to get back to being that baby...

Hmmm...I was bottle fed.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/17/2006 11:56:22 AM

CreativeDominant

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quote:

ORIGINAL: feastie

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Because we alllllllllll suckled at our mother's breast and since we are all trying to get back to being that baby...

Hmmm...I was bottle fed.

See???? That's why you have a hard time embracing your 'natural' bisexuality.

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RE: Giving up their Dom status - 5/17/2006 2:21:16 PM

LadyHugs

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Dear Lashra, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I have had so many dominant men who have not only asked but, have demanded that I give up my dominant status.

In my "old days" it was mandatory at the time to be slave before phase to Master.
So, it was a part of the journey. However, admit to being slave in the past, it is like a flood gate of why I have to return back into that status as "slave." I've heard so many excuses, from men are born dominant, God made Man first which means dominant human, religion, that physically men are made as to breed women in a top/superior position, they can learn how to be a better Dominant if I submitted, as I would have all those years as slave and dominant to better teach them and or exceed me in such. So, when I tell them what it would take for them to be my Master, they just fall apart and want to be my submissive. All I have to say is - E-gads.

For all the excuses as to why I should be slave, I hear men's excuses for why they can't submit. Mostly, it boils down to just kinky sex. Not all but, mostly.

In real face to face meetings though, nobody challenges my dominant status. Nothing slave about me. Dominant men don't submit to me but, on a bottoming status just for education purposes, as to feel techniques only. I also do such in private as people jump to assumptions and judgment to quickly. But, what I will say--Dominant men who see me unattended, have often helped me with my gear and fetch a drink for me. Not because they are submissive/slaves but, wonderful gentlemen they truly are.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs

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