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Termyn8or -> What is a God ? (6/28/2011 10:56:31 PM)

A God is an entity that can make your wrongs right. To you. Not to the people you hurt, but it can make you feel better.

For any statements stronger than this call me on my cellphone. Don't have the number ? Get it off of whatsername.

T^T




Marini -> RE: What is a God ? (6/28/2011 11:10:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

A God is an entity that can make your wrongs right. To you. Not to the people you hurt, but it can make you feel better.

For any statements stronger than this call me on my cellphone. Don't have the number ? Get it off of whatsername.

T^T



I was going to call you to tell you where GOD would be tomorrow, but I couldn't find your number.
Maybe next time dude.
Peace




NeedToUseYou -> RE: What is a God ? (6/28/2011 11:11:06 PM)

God is like an answer you know exists, but can't quite grasp.




Termyn8or -> RE: What is a God ? (6/28/2011 11:25:22 PM)

You mean like the time I had to adjust the vertical to fix a color problem ?

T^T




NeedToUseYou -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 12:24:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You mean like the time I had to adjust the vertical to fix a color problem ?

T^T

God is difficult to be discussed in literal terms. In my view the god Concept or reality, whichever your viewpoint, is the answer to the unanswerable with in the scope of the individual. So, God is not from our perspective an answer in the "Now" but the "promise" that there is an "answer", and for many/most knowing there is an answer/meaning/purpose even if we don't explicitly know it, is comforting/freeing none the less. We are trapped in an imperfect medium for facilitating real understanding outside of the narrow range of our own perceptions, so people get hung up an the unanswered questions, like "why didn't daddy love me", "why do I drink all the time", "how come we kill each other", "why won't anyone love me", "how come my baby died", "why did the holocaust happen". (these are not personal examples, just to avoid confusion)

A person could go mad trying to figure out the answer, but an answer/meaning/purpose is demanded, and that promise is the comfort of God. The belief that there must be a purpose/answer/meaning that this is not all for nothing, that we are not doomed to forever to be lost in this gross imperfection.

So, God is like an answer you know exists, but can't quite grasp.

This sort of conveys the feeling of the idea, though not perfectly, and maybe just for me. LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs0GvGnKJ9U

I know the pieces fit
'Cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smouldering
Fundamental differing
Pure intention juxtaposed
Will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes
Testing our communication
The light that feuled our fire then
Has a burned a hole between us so
We cannot see to reach an end
Crippling our communication

I know the pieces fit
'Cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame
It doesn't mean I don't desire to
Point the finger, blame the other
Watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together
Rediscover communication

The poetry
That comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it
Finding beauty in the dissonance

There was a time that the pieces fit
But I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smouldering
Strangled by our coveting
I've done the math enough to know
The dangers of our second guessing
Doomed to crumble unless we grow
And strengthen our communication

Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion
Between supposed brothers
Between supposed lovers
(sometimes says "lovers" the first
time and then "brothers" in concert)

I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit (crescendo)




HannahLynHeather -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 1:17:03 AM)

an imaginary friend




Termyn8or -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 1:21:10 AM)

"the comfort of God."

T^T




NeedToUseYou -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 2:22:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"the comfort of God."

T^T


The only interesting part of "the comfort of God" is why is it comforting. It's obvious that god is comforting, but the reasons the "god" concept is comforting can vary. However, in my view God, fills the gaps in many peoples lives to allow them to let "go" of unanswered questions/situations/events, and therefore add a divine meaning to that which would be meaningless otherwise.

So, yeah, "the comfort of God", so? Why is it comforting, and what is the comfort? I take it from your OP, that you feel it is to absolve wrong doings. I don't think that, I think it is the promise of explanation/understanding/answer as to why their are wrong doings, and the perspective to see from other viewpoints in a more perfect means of "communication".





HannahLynHeather -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 2:32:02 AM)

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I think it is the promise of explanation/understanding/answer as to why their are wrong doings
how the fuck does the idea of a god explain wrong doings?

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and the perspective to see from other viewpoints in a more perfect means of "communication".
then why are all religions so fucking intolerant of those who do not follow their particular mythology? an auto da fe isn't really what i'd consider the act of a group seeing shit from other fucking viewpoints.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 2:49:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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I think it is the promise of explanation/understanding/answer as to why their are wrong doings
how the fuck does the idea of a god explain wrong doings?

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and the perspective to see from other viewpoints in a more perfect means of "communication".
then why are all religions so fucking intolerant of those who do not follow their particular mythology? an auto da fe isn't really what i'd consider the act of a group seeing shit from other fucking viewpoints.



To the first I already answered that.

To the second. Well, you are talking about stupid people, not a "god" or "God", of course most organized religions are filled with stupid people, that's because most people are stupid. Does the fact that a fan of John Lennon killed John Lennon mean John Lennon was an idiot and murderer. Just because someone says they are religious doesn't mean they really are, or even that they understand what the religion they say they believe in actually advocates. (I'm not saying John Lennon was a god, I'm saying followers, often don't represent the message of the leader, that are supposedly following.)

Edited to add... I personally think a vast majority of the "religious" aren't "religious" in any real sense of the word. So, don't think I'm defending or even talking about the general state of any particular "religion" as represented by its "supposed" followers. Like in everything in life, most are just faking it, trying to make it, but never will be it.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 2:58:37 AM)

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To the first I already answered that.
no you didn't, at least not on this fucking thread that i can see. kindly point me to the post or section where you did.

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Just because someone says they are religious doesn't mean they really are, or even that they understand what the religion they say they believe in actually advocates.
so the fucking popes were all stupid people who didn't understand what catholicism advocates, but you do? and you understand islam better than the fucking ayatollahs? and hinduism better than the sadhus?

it must be really fucking lonely being the only one who understands the teachings of the world's religions.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 3:29:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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To the first I already answered that.
no you didn't, at least not on this fucking thread that i can see. kindly point me to the post or section where you did.

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Just because someone says they are religious doesn't mean they really are, or even that they understand what the religion they say they believe in actually advocates.
so the fucking popes were all stupid people who didn't understand what catholicism advocates, but you do? and you understand islam better than the fucking ayatollahs? and hinduism better than the sadhus?

it must be really fucking lonely being the only one who understands the teachings of the world's religions.


Oh, wow, go take your meds, calm down, and pocket your fucking this and fucking that sarcastic attitude and you might realize Religion doesn't equal "god", that's a very basic concept a 10 year old should be able to comprehend. Also, it might blow your mind to know that some "religious" leaders use the church for power or financial gain, so yeah, there could be a pope or general catholic, hindu, or what the hell ever that really don't believe in shit, nor care to understand the religion, and that would make them a "fake" follower. It certainly wouldn't be the first time.

And if you can't get the concept that a "God" might know something that you don't know, or are capable of comprehending, well you must have an inflated view of human intelligence, well it's obvious you do of your own.

HERE IT IS VERY BASIC FOR YOU, and you do realize, this is an opinion right? I mean, this is a forum, this isn't a recruiting station you don't have to accept my notions.

So, the viewpoint is GOD (WHICH ISN't equal to religion, if you've gotten that far), knows more stuff than you do.
This God has answers for things that don't make sense to you, here on earth, and that you probably couldn't understand anyway trapped in our little monkey brains.
Well, when you die/ascend or whatever, you join God, and in "heaven" or whatever afterlife, God will make things clear to you.

The idea is that God will revel the meaning to you at some point, not that he/she/it will come down it explain it to you now.

See pretty simple. Accept the idea, don't accept it. Don't care.






gungadin09 -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 3:41:16 AM)

God is what humans use fill the gaping hole caused by the fact that we are hardwired to search for more meaning in life than is actually there.

pam




RakeAndCo -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 4:05:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

an imaginary friend
Who hates amputees.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 4:18:48 AM)

ok, thanks for fucking explaining your idea.

I think its a fucking rip off, i mean you get the answers to all life's mysteries when you don't fucking need them. I have to wonder what the point is.

i guess its to keep one quiescent while here on earth when those answers might actually be of some fucking use. opiate of the masses and all that shit.

A sort of "your 3-year old had to die, god has some incomprehensible reason for ripping your fucking heart out and making you live on in misery for another 50 or 60 years before he'll to explain it to you." thing.

how the fuck do you reconcile the concept of a caring god with that sort of shit.?




HannahLynHeather -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 4:21:03 AM)

oh no rake, he loves everybody, apparently the fucker has some hidden benevolent purpose in hacking their arms and legs off.




Musicmystery -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 4:49:17 AM)

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A God is an entity that can make your wrongs right.


The plumber is a God?




Musicmystery -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 4:53:04 AM)

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ok, thanks for fucking explaining your idea.


[image]http://static.black-frames.net/images/this-cat.jpg[/image]

Go get laid. Take your meds. Talk to your shrink. Go for a walk. Breathe.

Whatever it takes.




thishereboi -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 5:12:32 AM)

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Go get laid. Take your meds. Talk to your shrink. Go for a walk. Breathe.

Whatever it takes.


Maybe I should ask my pastor to pray for her.[8D]




LillyBoPeep -> RE: What is a God ? (6/29/2011 5:14:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather
so the fucking popes were all stupid people who didn't understand what catholicism advocates, but you do? and you understand islam better than the fucking ayatollahs? and hinduism better than the sadhus?

it must be really fucking lonely being the only one who understands the teachings of the world's religions.


i don't really know where you're getting that. he's not talking about being the only one who understands world religions, he's talking about the average person you meet on the street who only bothers with it on Sundays, and cheats customers or beats his wife or lies to people all the other days of the week.
those are ordinary people who say "i'm religious!" but their actions couldn't put them further away from whatever set of teachings they claim to follow.




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