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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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FR

Theft implies they didnt provide the proper notices and royalties in a timely manner. Got any evidence of that?

They had no permission to use the tune. If you take what belongs to someone else without asking for it this is theft. It does not matter that you pay for the item after you take it, unless the person was willing to sell it, it is still stealing.

If I take your car and leave a check for the blue book value, it is still car theft

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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Seems like a petty, whiny nagging complaint

On Tom Pettys part, of course

(No pun intended)

He sounds like he is crying throughout most of his songs, this is not a surprise

Lets say that you had an original idea (I know I am stretching your ability to imagine, but for the sake of argument, lets say you did) and Barrack Obama took your idea and co-opted it to get his ass elected, would you whine over it?

Now, I do not expect an honest answer from those who support criminals and thieves, but I want to see you on record saying it is okay to rip off other people.

Again the baseless accusations of "ripoff". What evidence do you have that they didnt provide any necessary notices and royalties?

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

FR

Theft implies they didnt provide the proper notices and royalties in a timely manner. Got any evidence of that?

They had no permission to use the tune. If you take what belongs to someone else without asking for it this is theft. It does not matter that you pay for the item after you take it, unless the person was willing to sell it, it is still stealing.

If I take your car and leave a check for the blue book value, it is still car theft

Too bad you are apparently clueless on copyright law wrt music. Permission is NOT needed unless the work is altered in some way, and there is even an exception where permission is not needed to parody a song. If the law doesnt say its theft, it isnt.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

FR

Theft implies they didnt provide the proper notices and royalties in a timely manner. Got any evidence of that?

They had no permission to use the tune. If you take what belongs to someone else without asking for it this is theft. It does not matter that you pay for the item after you take it, unless the person was willing to sell it, it is still stealing.

If I take your car and leave a check for the blue book value, it is still car theft

Too bad you are apparently clueless on copyright law wrt music. Permission is NOT needed unless the work is altered in some way, and there is even an exception where permission is not needed to parody a song. If the law doesnt say its theft, it isnt.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

FR

Theft implies they didnt provide the proper notices and royalties in a timely manner. Got any evidence of that?

They had no permission to use the tune. If you take what belongs to someone else without asking for it this is theft. It does not matter that you pay for the item after you take it, unless the person was willing to sell it, it is still stealing.

If I take your car and leave a check for the blue book value, it is still car theft

Too bad you are apparently clueless on copyright law wrt music. Permission is NOT needed unless the work is altered in some way, and there is even an exception where permission is not needed to parody a song. If the law doesnt say its theft, it isnt.

I wonder then how artists keep on insisting that their work not be ripped off from them when republican after republican thinks it is within their rights to use it?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

http://www.thelawinsider.com/insider-news/politicians-pay-the-price-for-using-unauthorized-music/

The artist typically sues or threatens to sue the candidate for the unauthorized use of the song. In most cases, after much ado and public relations posturing on both sides, the candidate and the artist reach a settlement and the candidate ultimately discontinues use of the song.

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DeVore refused to settle. Rather, his lawyers maintained that the Internet videos “at least in part” commented on Henley and his work, and therefore met the standard for a parody. They argued that it was no accident that DeVore chose Henley’s music because the candidate was seeking a “prominent” entertainment figure to underscore his point of taking on “the Hollywood and entertainment elite” who helped President Obama and Senator Boxer get elected.
Not only did DeVore lose in the Republican primary, he also lost in court. In June a U.S. district court judge ruled that DeVore’s new lyrics to “The Boys of Summer” and “All She Wants to Do is Dance” are not a fair use under the Copyright Act. The judge ruled the new lyrics did not rise to the level required for parody, which is a defense to copyright infringement.



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Don Henley commented, “My colleagues and I brought this lawsuit to protect our music from being taken and used, without permission, to promote someone else’s agenda. It was not a question of political ideology, but the right of artists to control the use of the works they create, and protect their livelihoods. . . . This is a moral victory and a victory for every copyright holder in the United States. We set a precedent that will likely discourage this kind of behavior [i.e., unauthorized uses of copyrighted songs by political campaigns]. I think this is going to have a very positive effect on the creators of music.”
The court’s ruling in this case confirms that when it comes to music, political candidates, like everyone else and regardless of affiliation, must pay to play.

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Her "people" have received a cease and desist notice... I bet she doesnt play it again after this...

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This is a man who took his record company to court in the '80s over his songwriting rights, is it not?

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Why is it that Republicans are always the ones stealing songs and using them against the wishes of the artists who wrote them?

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Tom Petty: Michele Bachmann Can't Use My Song

f Michele Bachmann becomes the next President of the United States, it's safe to say that Tom Petty won't be playing the inauguration.
When the newly minted Republican presidential candidate left the stage in Waterloo, Iowa, after making a nationally televised speech to announce her candidacy, Petty's track "American Girl" could be heard playing her off. According to NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, Petty's manager will be asking Bachmann's team to not use the song again


http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/06/29/tom-petty-michele-bachmann-cant-use-my-song/#ixzz1QgMUu4zB" target="_blank">More

Here are more examples of republican music thieves... even Reagan, Patron Saint of Republicans was into intellectual property theft

Don Henley Ripped off


More examples

Reagan Song Theft

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It helps to know the laws - political usage is exempt.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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It helps to know the laws - political usage is exempt.

Do you have a source for that opinion?