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RE: 'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks - 6/30/2011 8:00:05 AM

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Congress has abdicated its power over the past few decades to the point where he as President has to step in to get anything done at time. This is one of those times, when there's too much not on the table, and too much posturing to get anything done.

Well, the economy is the GOP's one trump card moving into 2012. Considering beating Obama is their primary goal for some goofball reason, doing something to fix the economy would damage their chance of achieving that. Sitting on the sidelines lobbing hand grenades puts the ball in their court, and that's exactly what they're doing even if it has ended up with the U.S. staring down the barrel of not just a financial but in many ways an existential crisis as a developed country.

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RE: 'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks - 6/30/2011 8:03:58 AM

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I don't see that, people are hurting now, want this shit fixed now, this is not going to be an implied if you vote for me today, I will fix this next session, having not fixed it this one.

Gonna be a round robin, I believe, dems out last time, pubs out this time, and keep tossing the shitbreathers out until we get a winning team in there.

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RE: 'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks - 6/30/2011 8:33:18 AM

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FR -

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Cant tell the truth on MSNBC....

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Mark Halperin suspended over Obama remark on Morning Joe

MSNBC senior political analyst Mark Halperin was suspended on Thursday by the cable network after he called President Obama “a dick” on a popular morning show and then quickly apologized.

“I thought he was a dick yesterday,” Halperin, who also is an editor-at large for Time, said on Morning Joe, referring to the President’s conduct during his press conference.

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During the Morning Joe show, host Joe Scarborough hoped to prevent the comment from being broadcast, saying, “Delay that. Delay that. What are you doing? I can’t believe… don’t do that. Did we delay that?”

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/58098.html#ixzz1Qm29pVda

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RE: 'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks - 6/30/2011 8:46:53 AM

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We already know that from Faux Nuze, they have gone to court to insure that their right to lie is secure.

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RE: 'Get it done,' Obama challenges GOP on debt talks - 6/30/2011 8:55:45 AM

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I don't see that, people are hurting now, want this shit fixed now, this is not going to be an implied if you vote for me today, I will fix this next session, having not fixed it this one.

Yeah, but that's the thing. The GOP won't fix the economy if they end up in power, they'll just end up putting the government further in corporate pockets and stacking the political and legal deck. Tell the American populace they're unleashing the market and ensuring free trade, et cetera.

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Too bad think progress uses the same coverup as all the leftie idealogues. Tax RATES dont reflect EFFECTIVE taxes after changes in deductions, credits etc.

I would love for you to explain this. Despite consistent marginal and effective tax cuts over the last 60 years, federal revenue has maintained a slightly downward trend that drops sharply in 2001 (Bush tax cut 1)with a marginal increase between 2003-7. Meanwhile, income taxes show a slightly upward trend until 2001 and again, drops sharply with the same marginal increase between 2003-7. Corporate taxes, on the other hand, show a continual downward trend through the entire period.

Face it, you can't bullshit your way out of this with the Laffer curve. Your very own thought experiment demonstrates at the very least the Bush tax cuts amount to undertaxation. Yet, the GOP still vehemently argues America is overtaxed in direct contradiction of its own underlying economic theory.

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