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FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 2:37:55 PM   
farglebargle


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Status: offline 		The fucking bastards fucking did it.

http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/kansas-shut-down-all-abortion-clinics-friday

I've seen the idea circulating to just post and repost D&C instructions so that any competent med-tech can take care of their patients.

( These aren't the instructions I was referring to, but here's some study aids I found... http://www.flashcardmachine.com/surgical-instruments-6dcset.html )

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 3:02:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		The matter, as far as I can tell, is before a Judge. Two of the Doctors sued. It depends on the Judge stepping in to halt the new law. We wont know until tomorrow.

Actually, there are two lawsuits. One by the two Doctors, another by Planned Parenthood.

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 4:28:34 PM   
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The fucking bastards fucking did it.

By calculating the Fuck Ratio of your posts, I have deduced that you are a young lesbian.

K.

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 5:30:22 PM   
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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 5:36:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmmm..... By allowing Planned Parenthood the license, I think the state takes away PP's standing to sue over the overly-burdensome regulations.  Anyone know for sure?

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 5:39:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Realistically, the state can impose standards on the clinics.  But they should not be any different than the standards imposed on any free standing surgical center.  Do they tell plastic surgery centers what temperature to keep their facilities at, or how large the janitor's closets should be?  If not, then that would be the argument their attorneys should be making in my opinion.

A surgical center should have different standards than a basic, no surgery, medical clinic.  But a surgical center is a surgical center.  Yes, they might have to keep different drugs on hand, and of course, depending on the type of surgery, the proper equipment, but essentially they wouldn't be all that different.

Making the primary argument that abortion clinics are being singled out instead of having the same compliance regulations as all types of surgical centers will allow the judges hearing the cases to not have to discuss Roe v. Wade.  Make it a discrimination issue instead of an abortion issue.

In other words back door the people trying to back door you. 

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 5:43:43 PM   
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Hmmmmm..... By allowing Planned Parenthood the license, I think the state takes away PP's standing to sue over the overly-burdensome regulations.  Anyone know for sure?


It shouldn't.  The new regulations could have an adverse effect on costs which would make it difficult to stay open.  In all honesty, their being able to comply (most likely due to much larger funding since Planned Parenthood is a national organization) can make the argument for the other two clinics more difficult.  Now the state can say, "well Planned Parenthood was able to meet the requirements, why can't you?" 

Sadly, you sometimes have to take a step backward in order to achieve a sure footed leap forward.

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 5:59:14 PM   
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Get real.

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 6:12:24 PM   
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DUDE!   How many abortions does one need in a lifetime?


Get real.



Care to explain what the hell you are talking about?

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 6:27:44 PM   
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DUDE!   How many abortions does one need in a lifetime?


Get real.



Care to explain what the hell you are talking about?


To the OP.     To panic over this is... abit much.


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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 6:38:49 PM   
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Hmmmmm..... By allowing Planned Parenthood the license, I think the state takes away PP's standing to sue over the overly-burdensome regulations.  Anyone know for sure?


Problem is, they denied them first, then went back and had a change of "heart".

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) _ A Planned Parenthood clinic in Kansas has been denied a state license to allow it to continue performing abortions as of Friday.

That means Kansas will become the only state without a clinic or doctor's office performing abortions, at least temporarily.

Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri disclosed the denial by the Kansas Department of Health and Environment in a lawsuit it filed Thursday in U.S. District Court in Kansas City, Kan. Its clinic is in the Kansas City suburb of Overland Park.

Both the rules and a new clinic licensing law are to take effect Friday and already are the subject of another lawsuit filed by other doctors who perform abortions in Kansas.

Kansas has three abortion providers, including Planned Parenthood, and all in the Kansas City area.

http://www.wibw.com/localnews/headlines/Planned_Parenthood_denied_Kan_abortion_license_124808259.html

two weeks to comply with a new law that requires potential structural changes in a building? All the clinics have standing.

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 6:40:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

DUDE!   How many abortions does one need in a lifetime?


Get real.



Care to explain what the hell you are talking about?


To the OP.     To panic over this is... abit much.



What would you know about it?

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 6:59:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

DUDE!   How many abortions does one need in a lifetime?


Get real.



Care to explain what the hell you are talking about?


To the OP.     To panic over this is... abit much.



PA,
This is about manufacturing a law that at this point eliminates a woman's right to choose within that state.
It will be overturned (most likely) but that isn't the point.

And I am going to try to say this as gently as possible:
You post plenty of 'emergency posts' that you get plenty wound up about.

You of all people should understand impassioned feelings.

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RE: FUCK YOU KANSAS! ( DIY D&C Instructions, anyone??? ) - 6/30/2011 7:05:14 PM   
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