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flcouple2009 -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 6:26:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
If someone needs pot to get through their day, every day........I don't want them in my life.


Mostly I agree with that.  Everything in moderation.

I do know a few people who smoke daily, as in off an on during the day.  A couple of hits and they are fine normal functioning folk.  Without it you would think they should just be shot.

Basically they are self medicating.  If they went to the shrink they would have a prescription for something.  A couple of them it was a choice to smoke pot rather than deal with the side effects from the prescription drugs they were given.

Funny you mention the graphic artist and associated people smoking.  When I was working at the TV station they put a drug testing policy in place.  When deciding whether it was just for new hires or everyone the News Director wanted to test the entire station.  In the meeting my boss, the production manager told her point blank, if you drug test the crew in the morning you won't have enough people left in the production department to put on the evening news. 

This quickly ended the drug testing of current employees,  [:D].



Syrox -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 6:35:13 PM)

Good point flcouple. I too did this instead of putting chemicals into myself when i was prescribed pills for anxiety and depression a good few years bck.. i tried the pills, yeah, they did work but the side effects were wholly undesirable.. i took myself off them and replaced it with a couple of joints a day for a few months then one every once in a while when i just felt the world was getting on top a bit (nothing earth shatteringly drastic, just worse than usual days) and it all went fine... now i seem to be over the depression and only smoke socially.

At no point during that was i ever what I or anyone else would consider a stoner, been one of those too in my younger days where i would be smoking all day every day, like i said... got real boring after a year.

As for the addiction argument, pot isn't addictive, and for those who you claim ARE addicted to it. think about this. If the pot wasn't there, what are the odds that they would become addicted to something else instead? it is the personality that is addictive not the pot,



CreepyStalker -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 6:37:15 PM)

I'd assume it meant free of drug dependency. Occasional and moderate (and sensible) usage of anything would count in my books as long as it's not causing a problem. Likewise with disease free (which I assume refers to infections in the STD sense), you wouldn't expect someone to renounce their D&D-free status whenever they caught a bit of thrush, just in the case of serious nasties that would cause you problems, innit.



LadyPact -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 6:52:44 PM)

Fast reply.

No matter what arguments that folks can come up with about it's not really a drug because it's not manufactured, claiming to be D&D free is, more or less, false advertising.  If a person has to add disclaimers, such as smoking pot doesn't count, it's not a truthful statement.  It would be just as easy to write on the profile that the person is disease free and doesn't take narcotics.  I'd be more put off that the person who wrote the profile wasn't being as honest with potential partners as they could be, rather than worrying if they got a buzz going every now and again.



flcouple2009 -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 6:55:16 PM)

Since my eyes seem intent on heading to glaucoma I hope Florida has medicinal pot by then.  If not I may have to move.  Hopefully I have the kind that responds to pot.  My close friends wife has to use the drops and that little bottle is a fortune.



EmilyRocks -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 8:14:37 PM)

I agree. I wouldn't say I don't use drugs if I do.



SternSkipper -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 8:28:49 PM)

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It sure counts as a drug in my book . It causes intoxication , impaired function, and is not alcohol . Oh - and by the way - last time I checked , it's illegal .


Anything that alters the mental state is deemed a drug. Alcohol folks are simply in denial.
That said, I think it's odd the person of interest had filled out their profile... maybe they were so stoned they think "d&d free" protects them from Dungeons and Dragons enthusiasts.
As far as legal... well probably not for long in your state... but cause they're doing the medical M route, yoyu'll just wake up and one day everybody in your state will be complaining of Lombago[:D]



SternSkipper -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 8:31:20 PM)

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Since my eyes seem intent on heading to glaucoma I hope Florida has medicinal pot by then. If not I may have to move. Hopefully I have the kind that responds to pot. My close friends wife has to use the drops and that little bottle is a fortune.


Dude... in loving memory of the three stooges, I urge you to claim "LOMBAGO" as your medical condition
Don't do it for you, or me, DO IT FOR CURLEY! nyuk nyuk




Termyn8or -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 8:35:59 PM)

"Anything that alters the mental state is deemed a drug. Alcohol folks are simply in denial. "

In your fucking world. Stay straight all you want, I have NO PROBLEM with that.

T^T



LafayetteLady -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 8:40:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EmilyRocks

I agree. I wouldn't say I don't use drugs if I do.


So if they are prescribed narcotics, what's the correct answer? They aren't doing illegal drugs, but they are taking drugs.



EmilyRocks -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 8:55:03 PM)

I wouldn't put D&D free on a profile under those circumstances.



LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 9:13:21 PM)

I think that putting "d&d free" on a profile means just that: no communicable STI's & you don't do drugs of any kind. I know that there are people who don't think of alcohol as a drug, but it certainly is. I've used a number of drugs, including alcohol in my time & I was stoopid in my 20's & drove no matter what, because I was convinced that it didn't really impair my driving ability. And then I grew up.

To the comment, wouldn't you rather walk where the streets are full of people impaired on weed over those impaired on alcohol?? Oh HELL no!! There really isn't any difference in the way the drugs impair one's judgment & reflexes. I smoke occasionally, tried it for pain & for my Crohn's, but I would never want to even leave my home after smoking, let alone get behind the wheel of a car. So that's not really a no-brainer to me at all.

People react differently to different drugs. Some become belligerent on pot but are meek & mild on alcohol, so generalizations about this works about as well as generalizations about anything. I'm not allowed to drive after ingesting ativan, but all that does to me is make me feel normal when I'm having an anxiety attack. I don't feel high in the slightest.

And the argument that pot's a natural substance that god put here so it must be better for one, so are toxic mushrooms & deadly nightshade, along with many many more such substances. Therefore that argument is completely flawed.

I also think that sometimes the sheeple just put shit on their profiles because they see it on others' & think it's the right thing to do.



provfivetine -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 9:20:54 PM)

Of course THC is a drug; just like alcohol, caffeine, and acetaminophen.

When I see someone label themselves as "d/d free," I get the impression that they are free of STD's and hard drugs (cocaine, heroin, meth, etc).



SternSkipper -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 9:32:08 PM)

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In your fucking world. Stay straight all you want, I have NO PROBLEM with that.


Drunk again, ey termy?





juliaoceania -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 9:51:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I read the profile of a young lady on Fet.  In it, she stated that she was d&d free.

Her profile contained three pictures of her smoking a pot pipe.

Doesn't d&d free imply weed-free?



It depends on why you are smoking it. If the person smokes for medical reasons, I do not consider them to be on drugs anymore than I consider someone who takes pain medication for pain to be a druggie.

I am trying to talk my mom into getting a medical marijuana card so she can switch from her current nighttime pain medication (which is narcotic) to pot because I think it would help her energy levels and it would be better for her than taking an opiate.

Since we have medical marijuana here it is a legitimate reason to be smoking



juliaoceania -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 9:54:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Syrox

To my mind, pot grows along the side of the road with litte or no aid from anything other than the sun and the forces of nature, beer, harder drugs etc need mans intervention. therefore Pot is not a drug.

and would rather somethig go into my system that god made the way it is, than for some man made narcotic.



Fruit ferments in nature, and animals will actually eat it off the ground to get drunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5E5TjkDvU0



LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 10:01:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I read the profile of a young lady on Fet.  In it, she stated that she was d&d free.

Her profile contained three pictures of her smoking a pot pipe.

Doesn't d&d free imply weed-free?



It depends on why you are smoking it. If the person smokes for medical reasons, I do not consider them to be on drugs anymore than I consider someone who takes pain medication for pain to be a druggie.

I am trying to talk my mom into getting a medical marijuana card so she can switch from her current nighttime pain medication (which is narcotic) to pot because I think it would help her energy levels and it would be better for her than taking an opiate.

Since we have medical marijuana here it is a legitimate reason to be smoking



I hope that it works for your mom, Julia. It didn't work for me & synthetic narcotics do work. My energy level is better on the pain pills also than when I was trying to use the pot. In fact, I wouldn't use the pot if I had anything that had to be done, so I mostly waited til evening to smoke. And because pot seems to enhance whatever I'm feeling, it didn't really work very well as a painkiller for me.

There are some anti-depressants that also work for pain, particularly at night. I take them & I sleep through the night with no perceptible pain.

It seems that there are wide interpretations of what d&d-free means. This is one reason I've never put it on a profile. Some would consider the antidepressants that I take to be drugs & therefore it would be a lie to them.



juliaoceania -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 10:06:15 PM)

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I hope that it works for your mom, Julia. It didn't work for me & synthetic narcotics do work. My energy level is better on the pain pills also than when I was trying to use the pot. In fact, I wouldn't use the pot if I had anything that had to be done, so I mostly waited til evening to smoke. And because pot seems to enhance whatever I'm feeling, it didn't really work very well as a painkiller for me.


She would wait until right before bed to smoke it... not for daytime pain relief. She is on two different narcotics, one for daytime use, and the other for night... she has Spondylosis



Termyn8or -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 10:06:58 PM)

"but someone that smokes daily or every weekend is an addict,"

Hello God. Now that it is clear that you make the decision for all of us I got something to say.

But I won't.

T^T



Termyn8or -> RE: Doesn't marijuana count? (7/1/2011 10:09:39 PM)

" don't do it anymore because I feel that it would be hypocritical to be smoking while telling the kids they should wait till they are older to make those kinds of choices."

That is commendable and really, if I had kids I would probably not get high or anything at all, for them. That is what a Man does.

T^T



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