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Asherscorp1 -> Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 6:16:52 PM)
Admittedly I have very little experience in seeing other subs in pain, about half-a-dozen in person and a few videos, Something I've noticed in every one though is their reactions to pain are all similar. They seem (to me) to be pretty stoic. If Master whips, beats, bites me it doesn't take long before I am in tears, squirming, sometimes screaming. I can go on like that for hours and enjoy it but I wonder, how do stoic subs do it? Is it a matter of "zoning out" or are they just freaking tough as nails?

TheShrew -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 6:25:18 PM)
Of course, everyone is different. but my vote would go to zoning out/tuning in/focusing/subspace .. call it what you will.

littlewonder -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 6:53:07 PM)
some zone out, some are tough broads, others squirm and scream. I'm not a painslut, not a masochist but Master is a sadist. I'm usually trying my best not to scream and biting down and gritting my teeth as hard as I possibly can. Sometimes I can zone out and take quite a bit more but that's only after Master has bound me for awhile since that's how I seem to be able to get to there. Once there though I've been known to be quite "stoic" I guess you call it.

juliaoceania -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 9:23:10 PM)
It depends... I get really quiet, but I would not call it stoicism...I am not enduring something that is a hardship for me, I am just experiencing it. I am stoic when it comes to being in intense and unpleasant pain, also, for example, I did not yell out a lot when I was in labor. I was too busy focusing on how to get through each contraction to make much noise....

AcademyForSlaves -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 9:43:06 PM)
Hello, When I have punished subs I have noticed each one has a different pain threshold. Some can actually take alot of pain and the reasons varies. Thicker skin, less sensitive nerves, numbness, enjoying the pain, fear or lack of, accustomed to pain, etc. I like a sub who reacts to pain even if I have tapped lightly. I will beat harder until I get a reaction.

DarkSteven -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 10:06:59 PM)
I always feel cheated if I do things to a sub or bottom, and she just takes it without any reaction. Dammit, I've earned a reaction!

myotherself -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/1/2011 10:45:06 PM)
with previous partners, me simply being able to take the pain they've given has been enough. My Master is different - he loves the whole crying, squirming, begging thing. So he finds ways to prevent me from being able to stay quiet/stoic throughout play. It's so much more fun for me too [:D]

sunshinemiss -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 3:43:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven I always feel cheated if I do things to a sub or bottom, and she just takes it without any reaction. Dammit, I've earned a reaction! Did you start yet? (How's that for a reaction hot stuff?) [;)]

kalikshama -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 6:34:44 AM)
I like to scream. /Note to self: add thick walls to requirements list while apt hunting/

txurinal -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 8:09:52 AM)
i tend to be one of those "stoic" subs. The DOMINANT i often see seems to prefer me quiet

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 8:26:43 AM)
I'm all about the reaction, on both sides of the kneel. A sub who did not react to my touch (harsh or gentle) is useless to me. And any dominant who can't have me squealing, screaming, and oozing in under five minutes needs to take a good anatomy class. Just saying.

leadership527 -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 9:25:48 AM)
~shrugs~ Well, I'm not a sub, bottom, or masochist, but I am a male who's good handling pain. For me, it just becomes acceptance. I accept that it hurts but I don't attach a negative connotation to that and it doesn't generate a visceral avoidance response. When I've swapped over into that mode, then pain just becomes a data stream -- something to be monitored periodically to ensure there isn't an important "we need to go to the hospital right now" message buried in it somewhere. I'd make a really, really, really boring bottom :) I'm actually going to have to learn how to "properly" experience pain if Carol gets into sadism.

errantgeek -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 9:27:14 AM)
I have a fairly high pain threshold, and am decidedly not a (physical) masochist...what gets me in the servile mindset is mental stuff. So, anything more than flogging tends to draw out a fairly rebellious response, and given particulars in D/s and corporal punishment play, that takes the the form of stoicism. Whether the Dominant likes it or not is subjective, but at least in my experience most don't.

FelineFae -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 9:47:29 AM)
When i feel the pain, there is this odd compulsion to take it with as much grace as can be afforded. To crumble, to scream, that would be a failure. i don't like failure. Then i enter a state where i don't feel it as "pain". Its a sensation to be sure, but not pain . What i don't understand is why it's expected of s-types to act negatively to situations we enjoy ? i cry when i'm sad. i cry when the pain from Endo is raging and nothing can fix it. i'm not made of stone. There is no need for me to cry when engaged in activities with a Dom/me, for those i trust in that positition, i trust to keep control over everything.

erieangel -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 11:35:52 AM)
i have a very low pain threshold. that said, it doesn't make me adverse to pain, in some ways it makes me crave it. feeling pain makes me know i'm alive and well.

Kalista07 -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 4:59:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: leadership527 ~shrugs~ Well, I'm not a sub, bottom, or masochist, but I am a male who's good handling pain. For me, it just becomes acceptance. I accept that it hurts but I don't attach a negative connotation to that and it doesn't generate a visceral avoidance response. When I've swapped over into that mode, then pain just becomes a data stream -- something to be monitored periodically to ensure there isn't an important "we need to go to the hospital right now" message buried in it somewhere. I'd make a really, really, really boring bottom :) I'm actually going to have to learn how to "properly" experience pain if Carol gets into sadism. Jeff, Is this a REAL possibility.... Because if so I'd like dibs on some video footage, live streaming, whatever.. I'm easy.[:D] Kali

Kalista07 -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 6:16:12 PM)
I think this is something that is personal to every person.... I will admit that my natural tendency is just to internalize and analyze it. Partially because that's what works for me, and partially because that is what I've always done. Although truth be known there is a certain amount of insanity in that. I do remember having reached a point with my former partner where it occurred to me that despite all of his former preferences his new slave apparently was his preferred vehicle of use because she was very boisterous. So, to jack with him I wouldn't utter a sound when he was trying to hurt me.... Kali

SlaveKelly4life -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/2/2011 7:17:34 PM)
It's difficult to say just how each sub may handle pain. I too think that some may just reach such a "zone", that they are off in their own little world...A.K.A, subspace. I'm a pretty tough "cookie", and feel I can take a good amt. of pain but I'm sure I would eventually reach that point where I'd be crying and squirming as well.

DesFIP -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/3/2011 8:38:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FelineFae When i feel the pain, there is this odd compulsion to take it with as much grace as can be afforded. To crumble, to scream, that would be a failure. i don't like failure. The Man would be disappointed if he didn't get a reaction. He wants to hear purrs and yelps and whimpers. That's partially how he judges how much more I can take. I'm curious as to what you would do if you were with a man who wanted every little reaction, who found you 'taking it gracefully' to not be what he wants.

FelineFae -> RE: Stoic Subs (7/3/2011 10:18:28 AM)
In fact, i have disappointed a D-type with my lack of reaction to pain. At first, i was rather confused and saddened. e2a quote: There is no need for me to cry when engaged in activities with a Dom/me, for those i trust in that positition, i trust to keep control over everything. i forgot to add the word " out ". It should have read " There is no need to cry out when / ".

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