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benjamin34 -> Question (10/13/2004 6:21:37 PM)

I have a question. Where are all the real subs? Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything and that really doesnt make a sub. anyone care to get in on this one?




sub4hire -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 6:25:17 PM)

Is your definition of real "monogamous?"
Is it one Dominant per submissive?
24/7?

What is it?




LadyBeckett -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 6:25:26 PM)

quote:

Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything


What "here" are you talking about?




shylittleheart -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 6:36:44 PM)

It all takes time to find the right one. Yes there are real ones out there, but not everyone is made for each other. Desires, and interest much match or the relationship may be doomed from the beginning. Some seek real time, others just seek a part time relationship perhaps due to other issues we are unaware of. Personally if Master wanted 10 subs or 10 slaves, id be happy for i knew He was happy.


shy




DiamondDiva -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 7:09:09 PM)

Yes, please define "REAL"





INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 8:07:41 PM)

It's the Baskin Robbins theory, with 31 flavors, there has to be one that everyone will like, I don't even like ice cream!




LadyBeckett -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 8:14:02 PM)

Speaking of ice cream....[;)]




perverseangelic -> RE: Question (10/13/2004 9:00:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: benjamin34

I have a question. Where are all the real subs? Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything and that really doesnt make a sub. anyone care to get in on this one?



Wowch. That's got a lot of assumptions in it.

Who are you to say someone who want's a second dominant partner, or second submissive partner or second couple or whatever isn't "real"?

Why is someone who wants only weekends less "real"?

How is having limits that are different than yours less "real"?

These people just want something you don't, please oh please don't place a value judgment on it simply because it isn't what -you- seek.




ChrisGreen -> RE: Question (10/14/2004 1:34:29 PM)

Well now, if you can define what kind of dominant you are, then you might be able to define what kind of submissive you are looking for.

Then there is the singlemost important 'code' word in BDSM - RESPECT.

You have to respect the people or persons you want to relate to, and they have to have respect for you.

You don't get respect simply because you have decided to be dominant, I think you need to team up with an established dominant and go through a semester or two of tutillage - believe they call it mentoring in America.

Alternatively, and a lot of dominants go this route, is to go through the process of being trained as a submissive, in order then to learn how to be a dominant.

Another thing you should think about is that many dominants are not only dominant in scene, but also in real life, and many find their partners in real life, and then go into the scene.

It is true that there are some who are not dominant in real life, or hold down jobs that mean they have to hide their real selves; and, who are then dominant in scene only.

I think that you have mad a decision, on the spot, so to speak, whizzed around to see if someone is going to run around obeying you, and now a few days later, I hear your foot tapping on the ground and you impatiently say, "Where are the real subs?"

We are all here, "Where is the real Dom?"



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DaddyDomnCOLO -> RE: Question (10/14/2004 5:10:05 PM)

My own thoughts... such as they are. Who are we to judge when someone requests another sub to join her with her Master. I have found two occasions where my sub wanted another to become part of our relationship. It isn't alwasy a "horny' guy wanting a 3some. All parties in a true relationship create the input on what the group dynamics will become. As for weekends only... I cannot judge there life, maybe they have a job or home situation that precludes living the life they turly want 24/7/365. I believe someone already pointed out that in so many words, its a numbers game. Talk to enough subs and you will find one that you can respect and that also can respect you. Thats all you need worry about.
quote:

ORIGINAL: benjamin34

I have a question. Where are all the real subs? Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything and that really doesnt make a sub. anyone care to get in on this one?





stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: Question (10/15/2004 4:48:01 PM)

Greetings,

<Taking a very deep breath before typing>


Not everyone is looking for a 3rd or 4th.

In the case of this house, Master's wife is looking for someone who will be HERS.

He will be part of the family, but the sub/boy will have his own relationshjp with her
and be friends/family with Master and this girl.

be well,
stormi
property of Master Bear




IservBlkKingPaPa -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 12:23:28 PM)

Hmmm....just because ones situation calls for something different for them, than your situation, does not mean they are not real. this girl's Master is poly, that does not make Him "not real". Diversity is what alternative lifestyles are based on. An alternate path from the boring vanilla hum drum. Nobody has the right to pass judgement on the way another lives that alternative lifestyle. this girl has learned that lesson also. [:)] Just this girl's humble opinion.



@}slave}viktorya}--
Every Rose has her Thorns...




stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 2:31:14 PM)

quote:

Hmmm....just because ones situation calls for something different for them, than your situation, does not mean they are not real. this girl's Master is poly, that does not make Him "not real". Diversity is what alternative lifestyles are based on. An alternate path from the boring vanilla hum drum. Nobody has the right to pass judgement on the way another lives that alternative lifestyle. this girl has learned that lesson also. Just this girl's humble opinion.



It shows that your response was in response to stormi's post. So since this girl is stormi she will respond.
Not sure what you read in stormi's post. But the point that was trying to be made was that everyone seems to
think that being poly is all about swinging or orgies/harems. When infact that is not true.

Sometimes........ as is the case in this home, it is about being in service to one Master (or Dominant) and having a extended family unit.

The orignal question to which stormi was replying was the statement below:

quote:

Where are all the real subs? Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything and that really doesnt make a sub.


Personally, if you take the time to read this girl's post, stormi repeatedly has stated that everyone is entitled and yes deserves to live the life they choose. By the same token, the implication that one involved in a poly is basically less than
anything other than an extension of a very giving relationship absolutely is nothing short of judgemental.

While the question where are the real sub at??? The same could be asked of Dominants. Who's to say that the poster of this
question is real or not??? Not stormi.... but by the same token please understand the implication of "harem" was not in this girl's opinion anything short of insulting.

be well,
stormi
property of Master Bear




IservBlkKingPaPa -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 6:50:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: benjamin34

quote:

I have a question. Where are all the real subs? Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything and that really doesnt make a sub. anyone care to get in on this one?



quote:

ORIGINAL: IservBlkKingPapa

quote:

Hmmm....just because ones situation calls for something different for them, than your situation, does not mean they are not real. this girl's Master is poly, that does not make Him "not real". Diversity is what alternative lifestyles are based on. An alternate path from the boring vanilla hum drum. Nobody has the right to pass judgement on the way another lives that alternative lifestyle. this girl has learned that lesson also. Just this girl's humble opinion.



quote:

ORIGINAL: stormiKnightBEAR


quote:

Not everyone is looking for a 3rd or 4th.

In the case of this house, Master's wife is looking for someone who will be HERS.

He will be part of the family, but the sub/boy will have his own relationshjp with her
and be friends/family with Master and this girl.


Obviously this girl was replying to the ORIGINAL post. posted by benjamin34 as to the "realness" of the subs online and the implication that someone who may desire a 2nd, 3rd or 4th sub was not "real"

@}slave}viktorya}--
Every Rose has her Thorns...




IservBlkKingPaPa -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 7:00:20 PM)

slave viktorya will now refer to herself as such so as not to confuse anybody else



@}slave}viktorya}--
Every Rose has her Thorns...




Thanatosian -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 8:36:31 PM)

Stormi - not everyone on the boards is out to get you - honest.

Unless you click on the 'reply' link in the posting of the person you wish to reply to, the system automatically assigns your post as "in reply to" the last poster. So if you click on either the 'post reply' button or the 'fast reply' button, it will show you as replying to the last poster ( as in this post of mine being marked 'in reply to IservBlkKingPaPa'.

I have found it best to ignore the 'in reply to' and go from the content and context of the post to determine who it is actually in reply to, if it is not specifically pointed out, rather than assume that a post is in reply to mine.





gypsy1110 -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 8:46:53 PM)

Stormi - I think you misread Iserve's posting. The both of you posted comments in the Third Person which seem to add to the confusion. Your response to her posting came off a bit combative.




kiki blue -> RE: Question (10/16/2004 11:26:17 PM)

There are some of us who are looking for a monogamy here. I've made the decision to only seek local people for a potential partner, so I'm fishing from a very small pool. But there's no point whining about it.




ShadowHwk -> RE: Question (10/17/2004 1:54:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: benjamin34

I have a question. Where are all the real subs? Everyone here is either looking for a 2nd or 3rd or 4th for a harem or they want to do it "just on weekends" or they are unwilling to do anything and that really doesnt make a sub. anyone care to get in on this one?


So do you want some cheese with that whine?

Seriously, you call into question everyone's motives just because you cannot find what you seek? Think about it - even in vanilla life, with a much larger possible pool of potential mates, many spend a lifetime looking for a match. Do you think that a few weeks or months online will produce a quicker/better result?

Peace and Light
Terry




sweetpleaser -> RE: Question (10/18/2004 10:01:28 AM)

I found this to be a good prior thread on this subject

Poly

(Sorry to step on your turf Proud[:)])

Benjamin I think you are meeting and corresponding with subs who do not match you is all. Keep looking and you will find someone who does.
Good luck.




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