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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/9/2011 5:48:45 AM

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The Defense made it's case and the Prosecutor failed to make theirs "beyond a reasonable doubt" ~shrugs~

Actually, the case didn't make its case, as shown by the restrictions that the judge gave them on their closing argument. They did a great job of muddying the waters, and in my professional opinion as someone who was in the legal field for 20 years, I think the prosecution had the opportunity to do a better job of shooting their claims down. The defense, through the drowning claim created room for reasonable doubt.

There is also the fact that the prosecution did not do its job of addressing why those things didn't matter. They did have "lesser" charges listed, but if I remember they added "aggravated" to all of them (something Florida prosecutors tend to do a lot.

Focusing on primarily 1st degree, they missed the mark. They included the lesser offenses but spent no time explaining how they could be warrented. Instead they set their sites on the death penalty, which is a difficult thing to prove in all but very specialized cases.

Casey's ability to go out and enjoy herself was a big problem. Even if Caylee did drown by complete accident, making up stories for 30 days I think they could have made a strong case for the lesser offenses which did not carry the death penalty and therefore, Casey would have found herself not being released quite so soon.

I agree 100% especially about the death penalty. I think they would have had a better shot at a conviction if the death penalty weren't on the table. People are reluctant to sentence someone to death, moreso when the prosecutor does such a lousy job proving their case.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/9/2011 6:46:22 AM

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Who's this Casey Anthony?

My exact thought... plus... and why do I care?

While I know who that is, I have no personal stake in the jury's verdict. I wasn't there when the child died, I wasn't in the courtroom or the jury box during the trial. I think that our justice system works amazingly well, even considering how the media likes to convict people & stir the public up emotionally.

This.

Fact is, kids are abused every day. Kids are neglected every day. Kids die every fucking day. Just not all of them are cute little white girls that have stories the media decided to turn into a three ring circus.

A horrific case just came to light but I predict we won't be seeing a weepy Grace demanding justice for little Jadon
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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/9/2011 4:15:43 PM

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For one, the child that was killed wasn't a pretty little white girl....

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/17/2011 2:01:57 PM

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I thought if she were to disappear into the bowels of some dark, dank dungeon to never be heard from again, she would not be missed and her suffering would not be unwarranted.

The Jusice system has proven once again that it is broken. The innocent can be locked away as easily as the guilty can be set free. It's an imperfect system, noble in concept but flawed in execution.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/17/2011 4:05:50 PM

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Completely baffled. Petition for "Caylee's law" at www.change.org

I'm against Caylee's law. Responsible people don't need and it just gives the state another avenue to put people in jail. It's also contradictory. Caylee's law says that a missing child has to be reported as missing within 24 hours. But when does the clock start? If I sent my kids to school and they never made, the school would think they were simply absent, nobody would realize they'd gone missing until after the school day ended. So does the clock start when I send them to school or does it start at the end of the school day? Regardless, most law enforcement won't even look for or take a police report about a missing child until that child has been missing for at least 24 hours. Why don't we change that policy and work out the other stuff without stupid laws.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/17/2011 4:53:15 PM

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Regardless, most law enforcement won't even look for or take a police report about a missing child until that child has been missing for at least 24 hours.

That has changed drastically in recent years..... Kids under a certain age go on Amber Alerts here in California, as in immediately.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/18/2011 10:03:42 AM

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My first thought was "either she didn't do it, or some prosecutor needs to lose his job."

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/18/2011 10:35:10 AM

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This was a very fucked up case.

I was very interested in her parent's responses all throughout the trial. It was clear to me they did nothing except try to cover up for their daughter. First there's her mother saying she did the net searches for chloroform, then her father stating Caylee drowned and he made the death like a murder to cover it up.

Who does that crap?

This was their granddaughter for Christ's sake. Yet they did not have any security around their pool though they knew Calyee could get out (she was almost three).

Their behavior throughout the trial was so suspicious their attorneys withdrew from the case. (As did Casey's at least once.)

Yeah, Casey Anthony is a pretty limited excuse for a human being. But let's face it, her parents are not much better.

Then there was the police totally dropping the ball. "On August 11, 12, and 13, 2008, tips of a suspicious object found in a forested area near the Anthony residence were called in to police by a meter reader, Roy Kronk. However, a search was not conducted at that time. On December 11, 2008, Kronk again reported the sighting and police found human skeletal remains in a plastic bag.[link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony#cite_note-28][/link]" (text from wiki.)

This was the same plastic bag that was determined to hold Caylee's remains. By December, 4 months later, the body was far too deteriorated to get much evidence.

Fucked up case and fucked up people. We don't need a Caylee's law, we need law enforcement willing to take missing children more seriously.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/18/2011 11:50:42 AM

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My first thought was "either she didn't do it, or some prosecutor needs to lose his job."

That is just it: the defense did not win this, the prosecution lost it. They presented bad evidence and with some witnesses, no evidence, just conjecture.

If law enforcement had done their job then things might have been different, but the prosecution was betting that because it was the death of a child they might be able to use the jurors' emotions and it would not matter that they didn't have actual solid evidence.
They bet wrong.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/18/2011 12:46:26 PM

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That is just it: the defense did not win this, the prosecution lost it. They presented bad evidence and with some witnesses, no evidence, just conjecture.

If law enforcement had done their job then things might have been different, but the prosecution was betting that because it was the death of a child they might be able to use the jurors' emotions and it would not matter that they didn't have actual solid evidence.
They bet wrong.

I so agree.

Personally, I think Casey is guilty as hell. But the prosecution did not prove their case.

Considering the emotions involved in the death and possible murder of a small child, and all the media coverage, the jury handled themselves admirably.

Yes, they could have come to a decision based one motion and circumstantial evidence. But there was just as much evidence to suspect Casey's father as Casey.

I think it's interesting that after the verdict, Casey's father went into a mental hospital and Casey herself refused a visit from her mother.

It would not surprise me in the least if we hear more details at some point, as Casey strikes me as the type willing to capitalize on pretty much anything.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/18/2011 9:40:49 PM

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Like it or not that's our system.
Some of the jurors said the state didn't *prove* their case, that they did a lousey job prosecuting the case.
Some of the News people said that the prosecutors didn't even come close to proving their case.
If I were on a jury and there was *any* doubt I wouldn't vote to convict. How'd you like to vote "guilty" on someone and then five years later they were proved innocent by dna or whatever? How could you live with yourself?
My only reaction was "good, now I don't have to see it on the fuckin' news anymore!"
This should have never become a national story.

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RE: What was your reaction when you heard... - 7/19/2011 3:09:02 AM

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A sillier law is hard to think of. What responsible parent needs a law to tell them to report a missing child?

The same idiots that need disclaimers on washing machines and tumble dryers to not put their kids and pets in them for a wash and dry...

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