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What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:19:46 AM   
kyang777


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Status: offline 		Dear Mistresses:

I once met a Mistress who said to me that ass worship (licking) or queening is the ultimate form of domination, but others said that 'nothing takes more out of male ego by giving strap on dildo penetration to a male submissive, in the long run, it will change the male sub missive's inner chemistry'.

What do you think? Also what action give you the maximum satisfaction of feeling of domination?

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:26:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Someone I am with won't have that kind of ego... saving me lots of time playing games... kinky games to entice him to do what he should be doing already.

I don't need him weaker so I can be a better dominant or prove my dominance. I want him to have a good ego. I don't want him to have a discipline problem that would be corrected by showing him how dominant I can be in a sexual act. I don't see that as dominance.

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:29:06 AM   
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Sex is not submission.

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:46:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Playing is not submission.

Sex is not submission.

Obedience, loyalty, dedication, are all ASPECTS of submission.


Thank you and lockit!
But still taking queening and taking strap on are not regular sex, they are plays that show submission, are they? In the beginning of the relationship, the male submissive may still want regular sex, by doing more and more of these, the submissive got trained and became more obedient and demand less for regular sex, or give up for good?

is it a typical experience?

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:52:57 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		Sex is just SEX, regardless of who is on top, front, back or sideways. Swear to Kinsey.

What do you consider "regular sex"? Are you referring to penis/vagina intercourse? If so, I am a tremendous fan of "regular sex", and certainly expect it. I also consider smothering to be great fun--heaven knows I am built for it! Strap ons are good too, though my sciatica prefers that I use something handheld.

If two people want to enhance their D/s relationship by various sex acts, great, and if someone FEELS more submissive when he can't breathe due to someone's smashing his face with her ass, great! I can tell you that men who have no idea what "submission" is like being fucked in the ass, and love having a pussy smashed in their face.

Many of us will tell you that if your submission is tied to your orgasms, it is not submission. We also have a wide range of sexual tastes. Why would I want someone to limit their sexual capability? If I want to use someone sexually, I want it ALL to be available to me!

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:56:22 AM   
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Also what action give you the maximum satisfaction of feeling of domination?
when the alarm goes off three hours after we went to sleep and heather switches it off and drags her cute little ass out of bed to get our day rolling while i yawn, stretch and go back to sleep. when i say "where's my green top" and she doesn't tell me, she drops whatever the fuck she's doing and goes and finds the green top. when we're out back and we come out of the river shivering she picks up a towel and holds it open for me before she gets her own. when i say "fuck its hot, i wish we had air conditioning" and she gets me a cold drink. when i put a smoke in my mouth and start looking around for my lighter, she gets up and goes and gets it for me. when she turns the tv off when i pick up my book. 

that's fucking domination! all the rest? well that's just fucking.


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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 9:59:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kyang777

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Playing is not submission.

Sex is not submission.

Obedience, loyalty, dedication, are all ASPECTS of submission.


Thank you and lockit!
But still taking queening and taking strap on are not regular sex, they are plays that show submission, are they? In the beginning of the relationship, the male submissive may still want regular sex, by doing more and more of these, the submissive got trained and became more obedient and demand less for regular sex, or give up for good?

is it a typical experience?




Some people have a preference for queening or strap on, so in that case you are serving them by feeding their preference of fetish, nothing wrong with anything that turns both on, but if I read "Oh I will feel so submissive if you queen me or use a strapon on me", I pass, it's a laundry list phrased differently.

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Also what action give you the maximum satisfaction of feeling of domination?


Each person will answer in a different way, unless reading about what turns somebody on gives you the horn it's pretty meaningless, the person you are engaging with in such actions will show you and possibly tell you. Think about food, you won't ask which food is the most popular with a broad audience if you take a special person out to dinner, you want to go to a place where the food appeals to that person...

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:01:14 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

quote:

Also what action give you the maximum satisfaction of feeling of domination?
when the alarm goes off three hours after we went to sleep and heather switches it off and drags her cute little ass out of bed to get our day rolling while i yawn, stretch and go back to sleep. when i say "where's my green top" and she doesn't tell me, she drops whatever the fuck she's doing and goes and finds the green top. when we're out back and we come out of the river shivering she picks up a towel and holds it open for me before she gets her own. when i say "fuck its hot, i wish we had air conditioning" and she gets me a cold drink. when i put a smoke in my mouth and start looking around for my lighter, she gets up and goes and gets it for me. when she turns the tv off when i pick up my book. 

that's fucking domination! all the rest? well that's just fucking.




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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:01:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I can tell you that men who have no idea what "submission" is like being fucked in the ass, and love having a pussy smashed in their face.


Really? That's quite a surprise. So, you've whopped your strap-on up a vanilla man's khyber and he's enjoyed it then, Lady Hib?

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:03:36 AM   
kyang777


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


Many of us will tell you that if your submission is tied to your orgasms, it is not submission.


That is your key answer, a sex-less submission.

But you could also do this to your boss, your supervisor etc.

Isn't that true that in every couple's relationship, sex is an important, or most important element?

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:05:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		kyang, if a dominant uses sex to make someone submissive, the submissive has trained her and he is dominant. If submission doesn't come from his head and heart, it is kinky bottom play and servicing the bottom.

That has always been my opinion and it will never change. Sure, those who cater to bottoms and kinky play to seemingly work them into some sort of submission, have lots of guys around, but that isn't dominance in my view of things. I value the man who is submissive to me because I am who I am, he can see who I am and wants to know me, learn me, trust me, respects me and then submits. If I can't have that, I sure don't want to play with his cock. I can tease and play with my man... but first... these other things must take place.

No cock is going to train me!


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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:08:37 AM   
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Some people have a preference for queening or strap on, so in that case you are serving them by feeding their preference of fetish, nothing wrong with anything that turns both on, but if I read "Oh I will feel so submissive if you queen me or use a strapon on me", I pass, it's a laundry list phrased differently.

quote:

Also what action give you the maximum satisfaction of feeling of domination?


Each person will answer in a different way, unless reading about what turns somebody on gives you the horn it's pretty meaningless, the person you are engaging with in such actions will show you and possibly tell you. Think about food, you won't ask which food is the most popular with a broad audience if you take a special person out to dinner, you want to go to a place where the food appeals to that person...


Dear lady:

I know I only listed 2 fetishes, there are a lot more, thank you!

My point is that those sexual elements are important in developing/defining dominant/submissive relationships, and certain acts are related to submissives, for example, taking hard spanking is certainly not an act for dominant partner.

Kai

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:15:59 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I can tell you that men who have no idea what "submission" is like being fucked in the ass, and love having a pussy smashed in their face.


Really? That's quite a surprise. So, you've whopped your strap-on up a vanilla man's khyber and he's enjoyed it then, Lady Hib?



Heh. It's a world of folks, Darling!

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:17:30 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		Lockit said it welll, Kyang---I do not submit to anyone's cock, and if my playing with his parts is what guides his submission to me, well who is in charge?

Of course there is sexual fun & games, but what happens if our parts stop working? Is the relationship over?

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:24:43 AM   
kyang777


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


Of course there is sexual fun & games, but what happens if our parts stop working? Is the relationship over?


Good point, by aging the parts will stop working soon or later, the relationship shouldn't over, and many couples don't.
But a big portion of sparks in the relationship is gone, the relationship should have to be maintained by care, passion and spiritual means.

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:25:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		The title question is "What type of submission [do you]enjoy the most?"

Answer: "Yes, Sir." which is a short version of:

quote:

ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather
when the alarm goes off three hours after we went to sleep and heather switches it off and drags her cute little ass out of bed to get our day rolling while i yawn, stretch and go back to sleep.

when i say "where's my green top" and she doesn't tell me, she drops whatever the fuck she's doing and goes and finds the green top.

when we're out back and we come out of the river shivering she picks up a towel and holds it open for me before she gets her own.

when i say "fuck its hot, i wish we had air conditioning" and she gets me a cold drink.

when i put a smoke in my mouth and start looking around for my lighter, she gets up and goes and gets it for me.

when i pick up my book, she turns the tv off. [fixed]

that's fucking domination! all the rest? well that's just fucking.


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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:39:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

The title question is "What type of submission [do you]enjoy the most?"

Answer: "Yes, Sir." which is a short version of:


Supposing it always gives you a stiffy to say 'Yes, Ma'am'. Does that mean you're only playing, it's not true submission, etc, etc?

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:48:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would be enchanted if someone got a stiffy every time he said "yes, ma'am" to me!

What I don't have any use for is the one who loses his interest in saying "yes, ma'am" as soon as he ~ahem~.

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:52:03 AM   
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Supposing it always gives you a stiffy to say 'Yes, Ma'am'. Does that mean you're only playing, it's not true submission, etc, etc?
No, of course not! We all do this because it gets our kink on, because its what gets us off. I think the point that Lance and Hanners, and others are trying to make is that it isn't the sexual acts of the submission that give them the most satisfaction.

The Op suggested that queening or buggering a guy was the "ultimate" in submission, that these gave the Top the greatest satisfaction, and to the Dominants who have answered it was all the things done outside of the sex that were the most satisfying.

I've made no pretense that I get turned on by those sorts of activities, Hanners doesn't even need to be around for me to get wet doing things for her. If getting turned on by that outside-of-sex aspect of submission makes one a fake submissive, then just call me Crappy Sub. <Sorry Michael>

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RE: What type of submission that you will enjoy the most? - 7/11/2011 10:54:36 AM   
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