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defiantbadgirl -> homeowners associations (7/12/2011 9:40:03 AM)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Neighbor-vs-neighbor-as-apf-2524543580.html?x=0 I understand them wanting to keep properties looking nice, but what right do they have to control non-violent behavior? I couldn't imagine living in a neighborhood where I could be fined for kissing in my own driveway.

Hillwilliam -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 9:46:17 AM)
Many years of selling real estate has shown me that a LOT of homeowner associations are populated by people who have spent their entire lives totally powerless. When they were in school, they got beat up because they were obnoxious geeks. During their work lives, they were the office backstabbers who always blamed others for their lack of advancement. Now, they're IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING GODDAMIT AND YOU ARE GONNA KNOW ABOUT IT. Such a bunch of passive agressive assholes, you could never hope to meet.

slvemike4u -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 9:49:29 AM)
That post says it a he'll of a lot better than I could have......little people with a touch of authority....such a dangerous combination.

windchymes -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 9:57:22 AM)
That's funny, and so true! lol Not only homeowner's associations, but I'd say much lower- to mid-level corporate-type management, as well as quite a bit of upper-level. *this thread brought to you by those of us who are resentful because they're in charge and we can't do anything about it unless someone dies and vacates the position [:D]

defiantbadgirl -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 10:00:20 AM)
I can see religious cults (Islam extremists, Westboro Baptist Church, etc) moving to places like this "shudders"

Kaliko -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 10:03:46 AM)
FR I am the president of my homeowners association. I am giddy with power.

Lucylastic -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 10:03:55 AM)
lots of little tribes growing up with "we are perfect, its the rest of the world thats crazY" paranoia aHUH AHUH

LillyBoPeep -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 10:04:52 AM)
i don't ever want to live in a place with a homeowners association. EVER.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 10:30:54 AM)
"More than 80 percent of newly constructed homes in the U.S are in association communities." Perhaps the title of the thread should've been beware of buying newly constructed homes. Thankfully, I live in an older neighborhood that doesn't have a homeowners' association. If I ever buy a newer home, no homeowner's association will be my #1 requirement. Even if the management members are personal friends, management can change. For me, it's not worth the risk. I can't help wondering how rich people who hate the idea of big government are handling their much more restrictive homeowners associations.

windchymes -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 10:53:45 AM)
Actually, mine isn't that bad. They pretty much leave us alone unless someone complains about something, and all us neighbors sort of got each others' backs, lol. Regardless of what their individual personality types are, they do keep the property values around you up by not letting people let their own properties get trashy and run-down. I suppose that's annoying if you're one of those, but the rest of us are glad they do. And I was surprised and relieved when on the 4th of July, they were shooting off what sounded like grenades and icbm missiles in the parking lot, and I figured that was going to go on all night long, no sleep, yada yada....it ceased completely at 11 p.m. sharp, not a pop anywhere. Apparently the noise law is well-enforced, lol. So.....they're not that bad, unless you want to do something that's against policy, and there really aren't any unsensible policies where I am.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:11:11 AM)
Sounds great, as long as your management never changes. According to the article, "Homeowners typically have no right to a hearing." If management does change, you may not have any rights.

Marini -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:11:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Neighbor-vs-neighbor-as-apf-2524543580.html?x=0 I understand them wanting to keep properties looking nice, but what right do they have to control non-violent behavior? I couldn't imagine living in a neighborhood where I could be fined for kissing in my own driveway. WOW Who says you can't learn interesting things around here? I had no idea homeowners associations could initiate foreclosure proceedings, especially with the homeowner is only 60 days late with their dues!

defiantbadgirl -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:13:16 AM)
And the homeowner has no right to a court hearing.

Marini -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:18:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl "More than 80 percent of newly constructed homes in the U.S are in association communities." BINGO! Makes me happy I am in this 90 year old house, in a very old neighborhood. If you are buying new construction you will have little recourse. Perhaps the title of the thread should've been beware of buying newly constructed homes. Thankfully, I live in an older neighborhood that doesn't have a homeowners' association. If I ever buy a newer home, no homeowner's association will be my #1 requirement. Even if the management members are personal friends, management can change. For me, it's not worth the risk. I can't help wondering how rich people who hate the idea of big government are handling their much more restrictive homeowners associations. That would have been a good title for this thread DBG!

LillyBoPeep -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:20:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl Perhaps the title of the thread should've been beware of buying newly constructed homes. Thankfully, I live in an older neighborhood that doesn't have a homeowners' association. If I ever buy a newer home, no homeowner's association will be my #1 requirement. Even if the management members are personal friends, management can change. For me, it's not worth the risk. I can't help wondering how rich people who hate the idea of big government are handling their much more restrictive homeowners associations. i have to say i agree with you. =p i prefer older homes in general; i'm not a fan of modern cookie-cutter houses, so i don't imagine i'll ever come into contact with a homeowners association. management can and does change. and if you count on being "friends" with the people at the top for them to be reasonable to you, then what about the people who aren't friends with them? i stayed temporarily with a friend who lived in a neighborhood like that -- the panic over keeping the lawn mowed and watered CONSTANTLY so that it fit regulations -- i just don't understand that at all. and yes, it's ironic that some of the same people who put up with and espouse the virtues of homeowners associations are the same people who don't want government "interfering in their lives." =p sure, you can tell me how tall my grass is "allowed" to grow, but health care? STAY AWAY!!!!

Marini -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:29:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko FR I am the president of my homeowners association. I am giddy with power. Oh the humanity!!! ...........shudders................screams..........................shouts..................!!!!!! [sm=gaah.gif]

defiantbadgirl -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 11:39:44 AM)
Here's a question for those who hate "big government": How do you feel about private homeowners' associations fining people for outdoor kissing and hanging out in their garages? How do you feel about homeowners being ineligible for a hearing? Would you now agree that in some cases, privitization can lead to less, rather than more freedom?

DarkSteven -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 12:38:39 PM)
You forgot to mention one little thing. If you bring legal action against an HOA, they will defend themselves with association funds, and may raise everyone's dues to do it.

pogo4pres -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 1:02:51 PM)
FR Want to avoid "homeowners associations" go learn some basic construction trades and build your own home, on land you already own. It is that or learn to read the contracts including the fine print, to avoid these little Nazi outfits. Sarcastically, Some Knucklehead in NJ

Kaliko -> RE: homeowners associations (7/12/2011 1:39:19 PM)
I've been in three different homeowner associations. One was a large group of condos. Yes, the board was a bit corrupt, I think. I went to meetings regularly and was the secretary for awhile, but didn't get too involved otherwise. Then I moved to a neighborhood-type of association. We all lived around a lake. There were some rules, yes...but in general I never even saw or knew who the board was. Now I live in an old house that was converted into three condos. So, I am the president of three units. We all work together to keep our fees way down and we chip in with yardwork, etc. I have always had positive experiences...even the first one wasn't bad and if I had more balls at my younger age I would have spoken up about the small bits of nonsense. That being said - I have a big, beautiful yard that I would love to put a pool up in, but my neighbors won't have it. And so..THAT is the drawback.

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