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About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 1:57:34 PM   
juliaoceania


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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has informed Democratic Congressional leaders that President Obama and Speaker John A. Boehner were starting to close in on a major budget deal that would enact substantial spending cuts and seek future revenues through a tax overhaul, Congressional officials said Thursday.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 2:14:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I cannot believe Obama is caving on this. The minimum he should get is an immediate end to the Bush top marginal tax rate cut.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 2:16:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I doubt Boener can deliver on anything he promises with his teabagging crew.

I think Obama is too ready to believe that they have the nations interest at heart. 

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 3:25:20 PM   
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I cannot believe Obama is caving on this. The minimum he should get is an immediate end to the Bush top marginal tax rate cut.



We do not know what the deal would entail...

If they are trying to keep it under wraps this would hint that it is not a complete cave in on everything...

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 3:26:51 PM   
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I cannot believe Obama is caving on this. The minimum he should get is an immediate end to the Bush top marginal tax rate cut.



We do not know what the deal would entail...

If they are trying to keep it under wraps this would hint that it is not a complete cave in on everything...

True, my comment is based on the claims that the revenue increases wuld come from a tax restructuring to be done next year (which obviously won't happen or won't be progressive).

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 4:51:00 PM   
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We do not know what the deal would entail...



Then wouldn't this suggest that there is nothing to talk about?

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 4:53:41 PM   
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We do not know what the deal would entail...



Then wouldn't this suggest that there is nothing to talk about?



If the reports are true, then we do know that a default is off the table.

Kinda bothers me that people are already suggesting that Obama and/or Boehner caved, when we don't know if either one gave away the farm or they arrived at some place that nobody will like.


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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 4:56:16 PM   
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We do not know what the deal would entail...



Then wouldn't this suggest that there is nothing to talk about?



If the reports are true, then we do know that a default is off the table.

Kinda bothers me that people are already suggesting that Obama and/or Boehner caved, when we don't know if either one gave away the farm or they arrived at some place that nobody will like.



There have been leaks all day, and they all say there are virtually no revenue changes, currently or in the future. I tend to buy that, because I dont think any bill with revenues has a chance of hell of passing the House.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 5:13:59 PM   
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Where's the beef?

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 5:59:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		What a disappointment. I hoped Obama would raise the debt ceiling without congress and refuse to allow any deals that would hurt the poor and middle class. The majority of Americans disapprove of making cuts to the big 3. Taking a strong stand against that would get him re-elected. Also, I don't look for things to go well for republicans in congress next election with the 71% disapproval rating. Why won't Obama wait until democrats re-gain control of the house to make any long term changes? The way it's looking right now, the senate is the only hope for poor and middle class Americans.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 6:10:38 PM   
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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 6:13:46 PM   
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Odd that anyone could possibly believe that the Democrats plan, which essentially means bankrupting the nation and finishing of whatever remaining employers we have left could possibly help the poor or the middle class. Buying votes through giving handouts to the able bodied doesnt help anything anyway, in fact it creates dependency which fosters far more problems than it was ever meant to solve.





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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 6:14:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually a deal that no one likes probably means they met somewhere in the middle.....and that just might be a good thing.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 6:37:27 PM   
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Odd that anyone could possibly believe that the Democrats plan, which essentially means bankrupting the nation and finishing of whatever remaining employers we have left could possibly help the poor or the middle class. Buying votes through giving handouts to the able bodied doesnt help anything anyway, in fact it creates dependency which fosters far more problems than it was ever meant to solve.



Republicans are the ones who don't want job growth. They ran their election campaign on jobs jobs jobs, then voted no on jobs bills. The majority of jobs created by the rich are overseas. Many of them are hoarding their record profits and not creating jobs anywhere. Rich republican business owners promise to create jobs, then refuse to create jobs except overseas and say nobody is "entitled" to a job. I don't think the lying traitors should be "entitled" to live in the US.


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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 6:44:56 PM   
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The only reason for jobs to go overseas is if government chases them there, and thats exactly what is happening. Its a sad day when Communist China has a friendlier business environment than the USA

We are headed towards becoming what Communist China once was in fact, and they are assuming the mantle we once held

All due to a lessening of government control over there and a tightening of governmental control over here


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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 6:48:23 PM   
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Actually a deal that no one likes probably means they met somewhere in the middle.....and that just might be a good thing.


That's too difficult a concept for some posting above you to understand.


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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 7:02:10 PM   
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We`re just not going to work for nothing.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 7:14:19 PM   
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Actually a deal that no one likes probably means they met somewhere in the middle.....and that just might be a good thing.


That's too difficult a concept for some posting above you to understand.

And that is the fucking problem in a nutshell,inSANE partisans like him who see nothing other than total partisan victory...or humiliating defeat at the hands of ones ideological enemies.
Whatever happened to looking for something down the middle of the road?I for one do not need to see the Republican party torn and tattered nursing the wounds of their most recent defeat.....I would much rather see two healthy and vibrant political parties that recognize that they both have the same goals...though they might disagree on how to get there.

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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 7:49:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		You mean actually work together and meet in the middle where most of this country exist rather than trying to drag us off a cliff with the extremes of the right or left?

How dare you suggest such a thing.




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RE: About Fucking Time... Really!!!!! - 7/21/2011 8:06:25 PM   
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