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RE: Fireplay? - 5/19/2006 5:24:57 AM

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I remember various plastic children's toys being recalled because they caught fire rather easily.

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/19/2006 5:28:14 AM

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Here's to praying my daughter doesn't go loco on me as well, but her mother is at least vaguely stable, and I'm only slightly bent... *crossing fingers* Although if she EVER looks at me and asks me what bdsm is, I might just die of embarassment. LOL

When my girls were old enough to ask questions i answered them according to their ability to understand, same as i did with my brothers and sisters.

I remember one of the girls coming home on the bus asking” what is a blowjob", so i gave her the basic mechanics and got the" that's disgusting" reply i expected. A few years later same girl came back and asked" can they do that to me". I again gave her the mechanics. But this time she left with a grin.

Now this child remained a virgin until she was 19, so do not go assuming i let them get away with anything. But the open communication is what i believe made her wait; i know exactly when it happened because she came to me for advice when she decided she was ready to try sex. My point is be as embarrassed as you want, after you provide the information they need on the level they can accept.

When they were grown they asked all kinds of questions, i always answered honestly. I think everybody should, we all know “do as I say not as I do” only works to a certain point. Plus when they are old enough you will be their best source of information.

Is it hereditary? Well i have one kid who is as straight laced as they come, two of the girls are bi and one is a switch. I cannot say i influenced them into their sexuality; i did not let them date at all until they were 18. Out of 13 sisters and brothers, 2 brothers are doms, 1sister is domme, 2 brothers and 1 sister switch and 2 sisters are subbies, all the brothers are straight, 4 of the sisters are bi. So i think it may be heredity or we may just be hereditarily horny, or maybe we all just have open minds.

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/23/2006 3:02:05 AM

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OK. Once upon a time, I gave fireplay workshops and have managed to generate a whole lot of heat, setting people on fire. (that is a little light hearted wordplay, for the humor impaired) So I'd like to make a couple points I havn't seen made yet.

First, 70% alcohol people! It has enough water present that it's just shy of hard to keep burning. I did tests where I spilled it on indoor-outdoor carpet and it self extinguishes before the nap even chared. I have let it burn out on my own skin, and have yet to raise a significant blister, although I'm sure you could do severe damage if you where determined.
NEVER use 90 or 99%, it is not your friend, because it is almost impossible TO extinguish and can be very hard to see the flame if you get a spill/fire where you aren't paying strict attention.

Make sure the wand is constructed in a fashion that the wick has a solid attatchent to the rod. Imagine the look of surprise on my face when I discovered that superglue disolved if left in long term contact with alcohol, and during a scene, the end slipped off my torch like it was oiled.

With 70% I personally consider a towel a must have, but consider having it damp overkill. A good place to practice "recovery from unexpected combustion" is your kitchen counters. Most times, you can blow out any fire that isn't exactly what you want, where you want it. A dry towel will blot up any puddled alcohol and unless there is a whole bunch of it, the alcohol in the towel is dispersed enough it won't sustain combustion.

A fire extinguisher is a must for anybody who has ever dropped anything they didn't plan on. Not for the flamed, but in the event you manage to set your surroundings on fire. I've never seen it happen, but I'm sure that we all will the first time it happens and no extinguisher is present.

Burning hair at the small of the back is usually unseen, but will smell when burned and is good for a laugh when everybody catches the scent and you mention it's also a good way to get rid of hair in those areas prone to shaving rash.
Burning the hair off the head of your subject, is really, really bad form. My preference is braids, but swept forward of the shoulders works as well. When I get near the head, I keep one arm between the hair and the flame. I'd rather be a little overcautious here, than be remembered as the guy who sent a girl to the ICU.

Practice with your tools on a counter or other nonporus surface until you have a feel for where the flame goes in the different ways you are likely to apply it. You don't want to find out that your torch spills half an ounce of raw alcohol if held a certian way, when that first time is on a person.

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/23/2006 6:38:36 AM

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i spoke to a Dom here who was a physicist and explained fireplay very well; unfortunately i have CRS.....cannot even recall His nick. Personally, this is s'thing that holds no interest for me. i have a bit of a fire phobia in general <though i have a HUGE thingie for firemen, go figure>.

Btw, i watched a "60 Minutes" or similar show, demonstrating that liquid softener, put in the rinse cycle, removes fire-retardant from children's clothing, while dryer sheets do not. i don't imagine P/pl play with fire unless the subject is naked, but thought i'd pass that along.

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/24/2006 1:36:50 AM

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Thankyou to this thread, and all like it!
Last night, without a 3rd person present. (sound advice im sure, but im damned if im letting the poly folk keep this for just theirs!) we indulged in a little fire play.
Used the 70% and the mediswabs that you can buy.
For anyone thats kinda interested in this. You have to try it. Its wonderful. i was scared shitless. The fear thrill factor alone is wonderful. But looking out of flames and seeing His face is a wonderful place to be. Id highly recommend you try this at home viewers.
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RE: Fireplay? - 5/24/2006 3:21:31 AM

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I have been curious since I heard about fireplay, though I've had no opportunities, as yet, to learn, or watch any techniques. I hard heard mention of a fire whip through another forum. Wow. Not something I would be will to use on a submissive without experience under my belt.
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RE: Fireplay? - 5/24/2006 3:45:49 AM

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Brightest Blessings:

<<NEVER use 90 or 99%, it is not your friend, because it is almost impossible TO extinguish and can be very hard to see the flame if you get a spill/fire where you aren't paying strict attention.>>>

We use only 90% and have had absolutely no problem. We also never have a spotter, we have found a wet towel is good enough, but then again we run with scissors all the time *Chuckles*.

Just another look at the same thing.

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/24/2006 4:22:58 AM

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My only and very, very limited experience with this was with a small bit of flash cotton at a munch. The gentleman placed a bit of it on the back of my hand and lit it. While the fire zipped merrily and deliciously across my skin, it also was extremely light and I felt no danger from it at all. This is probably an extremely mild form of it, but I found it very enjoyable.

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/24/2006 7:44:50 AM

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<<NEVER use 90 or 99%, it is not your friend, because it is almost impossible TO extinguish and can be very hard to see the flame if you get a spill/fire where you aren't paying strict attention.>>>

Ah yes...the "NEVER" Police, that radical arm of the SSC-Army. "Never" play with 90% alcohol. "Never" play without a safeword. "Never" scene without negotiating limits. "NeverNeverNever" do *anything* out of the mainstream, the middle road, the things that read and sound like we're really not a bunch of twisted, perverted sadists or masochist.

Except...

Some (many?) of us *are* twisted, perverted sadists or masochists (or both).

Look, as has been implied earlier, you gotta use a helluva lot more 70% as opposed to 90% to get a flame going on someone. That means a lot more liquid to control, to risk pooling or running, to watch out for.

On the other hand, a gentle swipe with a damp cotton ball or Q-tip with 90% and you get some beautiful blue flame. And you *don't* need to use so much that pooling or running is an issue.

We use it exclusively, we play alone, and I haven't served BBQ slave to my guests ever. I've received worse burns from my damned oven than Gem's received from my fireplay with her.

Can accidents happen? Hell, yeah! But deep down inside, isn't that the kind of risk we like to take?

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RE: Fireplay? - 5/24/2006 8:17:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

When my girls were old enough to ask questions i answered them according to their ability to understand, same as i did with my brothers and sisters.

I remember one of the girls coming home on the bus asking” what is a blowjob", so i gave her the basic mechanics and got the" that's disgusting" reply i expected. A few years later same girl came back and asked" can they do that to me". I again gave her the mechanics. But this time she left with a grin.

Now this child remained a virgin until she was 19, so do not go assuming i let them get away with anything. But the open communication is what i believe made her wait; i know exactly when it happened because she came to me for advice when she decided she was ready to try sex. My point is be as embarrassed as you want, after you provide the information they need on the level they can accept.

When they were grown they asked all kinds of questions, i always answered honestly. I think everybody should, we all know “do as I say not as I do” only works to a certain point. Plus when they are old enough you will be their best source of information.

Is it hereditary? Well i have one kid who is as straight laced as they come, two of the girls are bi and one is a switch. I cannot say i influenced them into their sexuality; i did not let them date at all until they were 18. Out of 13 sisters and brothers, 2 brothers are doms, 1sister is domme, 2 brothers and 1 sister switch and 2 sisters are subbies, all the brothers are straight, 4 of the sisters are bi. So i think it may be heredity or we may just be hereditarily horny, or maybe we all just have open minds.

this is a really grand post. thank you twicehappy.

my little girl is going to be 6 in june, and already i had the "where do babies come from?" kinda questions. i have also been completely honest with her and told her in language relevent to her age.

my mum neva did this with me, and we neva spoke about anything. both my parents are strict catholics and anything like that is just considered "dirty". as a result, when i had my first period, i thought i woz being punished for touching myself, and thought i woz gonna bleed to death or something. it's only because one of my teachers at school noticed something that i woz sent to the school nurse, who sat me down and explained stuff to me.

talking about hereditary, i spose my mum is a bit submissive, coz we have a "traditional" house, where my dad's in charge, and me and mum look after the house and that, while he goes off to work. my brother is as normal as most people i spose, and he's married and got his own place, but no kidz yet.

i think i'm just the black sheep of the family, coz i had kel when i woz very young and well, i'm a member of collarme

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