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RqrCompanionS -> Much younger man (7/22/2011 1:10:20 PM)

This is not so much of a question as a "Feel free to put your two cents in". Last night, I had an online conversation with a young man. We've been in contact many times. I do wonder about him and miss him when he's gone, but, we have not talked a great deal, just by way of being friendly; it's mostly been strictly related to service and BDSM, and, a little about work and school.

The thing is, during that conversation, he made it clear he wants to serve me. thinks I'm sexy, likes me as a person, likes that we can get along. Basically, he, also said he'd live non-sexually, even though he is turned on by me, and, suggested that I slap him if I start to feel turned on, which would only make him happier (and, also, more turned on).

Now, understand, regardless of what you think, I am dealing with this from the perspective of a person who does not believe in having sex outside of marriage, who does not believe in marrying unless it is for love, and, who thinks that purposely leading people into lustful situations counts as sex. And, I believe he understands this, as well. Certainly, we have discussed it, more than once. Though, I am not sure he fully understands it, as, most people do not - not even the vanilla ones, not even the ones who claim to be Christian and attend religious meetings regularly, mostly.

Anyway, during the conversation, it was brought up that, of course, the logical alternative to him not serving me, because we are attracted to each other, is that we get to know each other better, see how that works out, and, if it works out well, get married and then he could serve me as my slave boy, including sexually, if that's something I wanted.

I have two things that keep bugging me. One is that this is not a mild age discrepancy. It's, what? 17 years, give or take. Which would make not so much difference now, as he is intelligent and mature for his age, and, we do get along; but, it might make a serious difference in 15 or 20 years. Or, you know, it may not. A lot of people think my parents, and other older relatives, are a good 20 or 30 years younger than they are, and, on my good days, I still get harassed by the police for going near the liquor store.

Don't rush to look at my photos on here, and, eye them in disbelief. lol I said on the good days!

The other thing is that, I fell madly in love with someone, once, and, I never fell out of love with them. This young man reminds me of the other slightly less young man. So, I worry that somewhere in my subconsciousness, I am simply trying to make a substitution. I mean, I know I like him as a person, but, maybe all the feelings that go beyond that are really still for someone else. And, I worry that this other person may some day come back into my life, and, if they do, what will happen then.

Mind you, I worry about it, because, it has happened before, but, I don't think it is going to happen again, because, he is attempting to do the honorable thing and avoid making me suffer alongside him as he dies from his illness. But, it has happened before, that I met someone, I began to enjoy their company to the point of thinking that maybe this would be alright and maybe I was over him, and, then, he showed back up and, with one little sentence, really just by his existence, upset the whole balance of my life, all over again. Not in a bad way, except, it is bad to wait and want, where there is a great unlikelihood of there being a furthering of the relationship.

So, this is not about a rational choice, wherein I can say that Subject A is right for me because and Subject B should only be a friend because. This is about dealing with the fact that, about a decade ago, I met someone where this was this immediate connection, that never went away. There is no such thing, even if he is not physically in my life, as him ever not being a part of my life, as his existence colours mine.

To be with someone, I have to know that this is a person where I could sit in the same room with the man I fell in love with before them, and, be glad that they are my lover and he is my friend. For their sake, as much as mine.

Only, I don't know how to know that, without doing it, and, I do not know how to do it, if he is off being noble and out of touch.

These are the thoughts swirling around in my head.




Giermo -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 4:15:05 PM)

I do not have the life experience to provide any feedback. In any case, I can say I hope that everything is settled for the best.




RqrCompanionS -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 7:36:49 PM)

He thinks or knows you're sexy?
Why not try a younger man, if you don't think the world will last long? Have fun while you can and send me pictures so I can have fun too

xx

hey! whoops! haha I thought it would log me in, not leave you. Sorry!

How do I get logged in, then?





tattooedinAK -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 7:42:47 PM)

Second try! Sorry girl. Thought I'd sneak onto your computer and give you a little surprise, now that you talked me into joining. lol Guess you're surprised now! Sybil!




RqrCompanionS -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 8:05:21 PM)

Thank you, Giermo!

You, tattoo boy: Don't do that, again!

But, hello!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Giermo

I do not have the life experience to provide any feedback. In any case, I can say I hope that everything is settled for the best.





Tantriqu -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 8:29:19 PM)

Disclaimer: I can't imagine an adult relationship without determining whether you're sexually compatible before marriage, unless you just mean 'no sex' means 'no vanilla penetrative sex'.

That being said: In praise of younger men:
I've never successfully dated anyone under 40.
Younger men can be lovely! The good ones I know are naturally far less sexist/racist/sizist, having been brought up in a less misogynistic world since they've grown up in a world with female doctors, lawyers, cops. They also tend to have excellent libidos and to be more open to trying new things sexually, to have healthier lifestyles, and frankly have less baggage, i.e., fewer ex-wives and kids. They also tend to be well-trained in wearing condoms/getting tested; older men, especially those with vasectomies, can be contagious sluts.

The only downside with much younger men is the flip side of the coin of their not knowing about how the world was run 50 years ago is that they may not get your pop-references.
It's also excellent to go out in public with younger men: women are jealous, and men are frankly curious about what YOU'VE got to deserve your toyfriend.
Your previous experiences and boyfriends will always colour your appreciation of other men; just don't let your regrets from yesteryear prevent you from enjoying today and tomorrow.
Good luck.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 10:19:49 PM)

ok, welll first off, you have some really fucked up ideas about sex and shit, but that's neither here nor there to the question, in fact i don't even see why you bothered to mention it.

as to the age difference? fuck it. who the fuck cares? love is fucking blind, don't you know? and if you are both committed to finding a way to make it work, you'll find a way.

and worrying about your feelings being real or not? again fuck it. who the fuck cares? if you love, then love as deep and wild and free as you can. pull a fucking nike - just do it!




MistressDarkArt -> RE: Much younger man (7/22/2011 10:39:13 PM)

My dear, I respectfully suggest you are thinking too much. There are no guarantees in life; nothing is permanent. You have today and someone is offering to love you. Safeguard your health/physical safety, be completely honest with all in your world, and honor your life by enjoying it. Should something go awry down the road, you'll be strong enough to deal with it if and when it happens. Live and love the hell out of your younger man.




Tantriqu -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 12:20:33 AM)

ARGH! Important typo!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

Disclaimer: I can't imagine an adult relationship without determining whether you're sexually compatible before marriage, unless you just mean 'no sex' means 'no vanilla penetrative sex'.

That being said: In praise of younger men:
I've never successfully dated anyone OVER 40.
Younger men can be lovely! The good ones I know are naturally far less sexist/racist/sizist, having been brought up in a less misogynistic world since they've grown up in a world with female doctors, lawyers, cops. They also tend to have excellent libidos and to be more open to trying new things sexually, to have healthier lifestyles, and frankly have less baggage, i.e., fewer ex-wives and kids. They also tend to be well-trained in wearing condoms/getting tested; older men, especially those with vasectomies, can be contagious sluts.





SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 12:26:45 AM)

I guess get to know each other, and let the chips fall where they may. He seems to be agreeable to your "don't need sex, and definitely not before marriage." What could possibly be the problem, as long as he is an adult, and you seek similar things: For example, I don't know your age, but I am a little hesitant about major age differences, only because I know, for me, age isn't just a number, and I have family/other factors affecting my choice.

If you both seek a similar relationship, and he is willing, and enthusiastic about you, and your possible future together, why not try? Clearly, you don't worry about how the sex might be, if you're willing to marry someone without having had any. I used to be of your position, but than, I had to consider what would look worse; 10 partners, find out if it will work, or 10 marriages, and than find out if it works.




siamsa24 -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 2:41:33 AM)

My Husband is a solid 13 years older then me.  It can get a little frustrating at times because we don't always understand where the other is coming from, but we have been together over 8 years so we must be doing something right!




YSG -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 7:30:39 AM)

OP, if you feel that the two of you are compatible and able to make this work, I say go for it!

My Lady and I have a significant age difference, but it works because we have a mutual love, trust, and respect for each other. That is the basis of a truely good relationship. We do have some common interests, but there needs to be more than that to really make it work.

As for the sex thing, stick to your beleifs. If he's worth it, he'll know you're worth waiting for.




RqrCompanionS -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 3:24:47 PM)

quote:

As for the sex thing, stick to your beleifs. If he's worth it, he'll know you're worth waiting for.


Thank you, YSG! It's a nice thing to say, and, it reminds me of advice I'd have gotten from someone else, if he was around. His name is Geoff, too, come to think of it. lol

And, for future reference to all, as there seems to be some misunderstanding(s): I didn't say I don't need sex. I DO need it. I just don't want it without marriage and love and all that. He's the one who said he could live without it, if that's what it took to be with me.

And, I mentioned it, because, obviously, if I had no issues with having sex, without making a full legal, religious, etc. commitment, I'd just take him into my home, have my way with him - no conflicts, no questions.

And, I think anyone who has to ask if I mean vanilla penetrative sex has a f .. messed up view of sex. If it involves lust and/or trying for orgasms, or, direct genital stimulation or stimulation of the erogenous zones, on purpose, for pleasure that could lead to cumming or orgasms, it is sex.

I don't have sex with people I am not married to. Nor do I judge their worth as marriage partners by how good they are at sex. Marriage is not about sex. Hopefully, it involves a lot of it, but, for better or for worse, in sickness and in health does not fit with "Unless you fail to make me cum often enough." If you have love, respect, and all that good stuff, the sex will either be good or it will be worked on until it is, unless one or both are terribly incapable of having it due to some health issue.

Regardless, I am not asking for your opinion on whether you think I am right or wrong to have sex with him, or, your permission to believe that sex is what I consider sex to be.

If you really can't understand my viewpoint, you're probably not the best person to give advice or sympathy. Though, I did like the rest of the answer of the person who told me how f'd up I am, despite the cussing, and, it is helpful in some way, so, I guess they can't be the worst person to do it, either. lol

Thank you all for your input.




Tantriqu -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 4:34:24 PM)

Eyebrow raise: you'd asked for advice from Dommes, hence the thread title of 'Ask a Mistress'; I gave it along with volunteering my time and experience to you, in support of younger men [despite my earlier typo]. Ya gotta be ready for answers if you ask a question. Don't construe MY experience as an attack, which is why I began my statement as I did with an 'your mileage may vary'. I've seen several marriages fall apart within months because no, not everyone has compatible libidos or can be taught how to please, or there were undeclared kinks the other partner had no interest in.
If you just wanted sympathy, predicate your future requests with that; we can give that, too.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 7:16:09 PM)

All I can say ... is that is what dating is for ... in real life!

Yikes! This is not a dilemma .. it is an opportunity! [:D]

If it does not work, so be it!

But You will always know, You tried! And that my friend, is the real answer! [:)]

Nothing ventured ... nothing gained.





seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 7:18:57 PM)

Heck ... don't Older men go after younger Women, too! ROFL


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Twoshoes -> RE: Much younger man (7/23/2011 8:30:50 PM)

I've been attracted to women who sometimes happen to be older and I have friends who have been in relationships with older women. We have similar personalities and what we find appealing is: confidence, emotional maturity, social power and/or a woman who knows exactly what they're doing (with their life).

So, I'm having trouble believing this story. Perhaps, he's an 'online' person that has no intentions on actually doing much more besides messaging you, and therefore doesn't find it difficult to accept just about everything to keep conversing with you. (Unless, I misread your post.)

E:typo




SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Much younger man (7/24/2011 11:32:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seekingOwnertoo
Heck ... don't Older men go after younger Women, too! ROFL


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Yeah, but that's normal. *Where's the eye roll thingie?*

Kiddding, seekingOwner.

The age difference (younger man/older woman) is a little less common, but I think it should be equally acceptable, and to me, it is. I've grown in my love for younger men, but it is still has to be someone mature, and with similar outlooks and goals as myself. M




LadyPact -> RE: Much younger man (7/25/2011 2:38:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Twoshoes
So, I'm having trouble believing this story. Perhaps, he's an 'online' person that has no intentions on actually doing much more besides messaging you, and therefore doesn't find it difficult to accept just about everything to keep conversing with you. (Unless, I misread your post.)

E:typo

This is pretty much My thinking on the matter, too.  I really don't invest a lot of validity of what is just said online.  I'm more the type to believe that folks are going to do what they say when they are actually doing it, rather than just handing over some talk.





Madame4a -> RE: Much younger man (7/25/2011 5:57:30 AM)

How could anyone understand your view point? On the basis of a couple of posts? Not likely.. particularly because it seems like you have a lot of issues...

I'd suggest you turn off your computer and find someone offline if you want an offline relationship... if its online.. then who cares?




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