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lockedaway -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 10:47:07 PM)
quote: .I have a constant and steady supply of vicodin by my side at all times Party at SlaveMike's house. I will bring the vodka and Red Bull!! RBV'S baby!!!!!!

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 10:50:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster BTW, you asked a question the other day, and I answered it. Do you remember what you asked? I totally don't, I'm sorry XD Refresh my memory? Post 12

imperatrixx -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 10:51:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway quote: The shit cunt rich fucks hurt a whole lot more people, though. Dude??? Put doooown the pipe. Well he has a point. Even if some guy is smoking his entire welfare check, that's not going to be more than $20k a year. Someone like Bernie Madoff had the capability to hurt thousands of people. On the flip side, the rich have much more power to help people as well. But when they go bad...it's bad.

lockedaway -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 10:58:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway quote: The shit cunt rich fucks hurt a whole lot more people, though. Dude??? Put doooown the pipe. Well he has a point. Even if some guy is smoking his entire welfare check, that's not going to be more than $20k a year. Someone like Bernie Madoff had the capability to hurt thousands of people. On the flip side, the rich have much more power to help people as well. But when they go bad...it's bad. Was that his point though? Sure, Madoff destroyed people. He was ruthless and he came into people's lives as the trusted adviser, the brilliant and avuncular investing genius and then he was revealed as a Judas.

imperatrixx -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 11:02:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster BTW, you asked a question the other day, and I answered it. Do you remember what you asked? I totally don't, I'm sorry XD Refresh my memory? Post 12 omg yes, I loved that :) "Just making stuff up" summarizes it pretty well. Really, American politics is so disturbing these days, it hurts if I think about it too much...it's like I'm feeling the pain of America as it gets stabbed, raped and spat on. I know a lot of conservatives would say my ideals are spitting on America, but that's not what worries me. If Washington were to have an honest debate about, say, the merits of national healthcare, I'd be so fucking proud. A debate that called in experts to project the results of the system, that was based on figures, that worked to find solutions...instead of getting this fucking mockery of "Obama wants death panels to determine who can live or die" and then going around and talking about cutting medicare...what, so the market can determine who can live or die? It's so incredibly depressing. I can't imagine the future of the US as anything good. And I normally have a very good imagination.

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 11:06:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway quote: The shit cunt rich fucks hurt a whole lot more people, though. Dude??? Put doooown the pipe. Well he has a point. Even if some guy is smoking his entire welfare check, that's not going to be more than $20k a year. Someone like Bernie Madoff had the capability to hurt thousands of people. On the flip side, the rich have much more power to help people as well. But when they go bad...it's bad. Bernie Madoff hurt rich people (you know, those powerful rich fucks ya all dont like). To invest with him a person had to be an accredited investor and have a good sized net worth and/or a big income. About half of Madoff's investors were "net winners," earning more than their investment.

imperatrixx -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 11:41:48 PM)
Since when do I hate rich people? Especially considering the post you just quoted says "On the flip side, the rich have much more power to help people as well."

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 11:47:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx Since when do I hate rich people? Especially considering the post you just quoted says "On the flip side, the rich have much more power to help people as well." you said the dude had a point, meaning you agree with his point re the "shit cunt rich". I also didnt say you hated them, just that ya all dont like them, it was a general comment about the many posts bitching about how horrible they are.

imperatrixx -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 12:04:54 AM)
I said he had a point, and that point was that a bad person with money and power has the capability to hurt more people than a bad poor person. Then I said that conversely, a good person with money and power has the capability to help more people than a good poor person. And you couldn't be more wrong. I don't dislike anyone for having money, nor do I think that having money is horrible. Money is neutral. How you get it and what you do with it is what matters.

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 12:19:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx I said he had a point, and that point was that a bad person with money and power has the capability to hurt more people than a bad poor person. Then I said that conversely, a good person with money and power has the capability to help more people than a good poor person. And you couldn't be more wrong. I don't dislike anyone for having money, nor do I think that having money is horrible. Money is neutral. How you get it and what you do with it is what matters. why would you care if someone rich hurts someone else rich? the expectation by the govt is that rich people are astute and can take care of themselves. I dont necessarily think someone with money and power & with the capability to help people is a good person. Gates has money, he even has some charities, i dont personally see him as a particularly good person tho.

Musicmystery -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 6:13:56 AM)
quote: he even has some charities ...if you count the largest charity in the world as "some...."

imperatrixx -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 6:20:56 AM)
You're right, "good person" is an oversimplification. I should have said that they have more capability to do good works.

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 6:55:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: he even has some charities ...if you count the largest charity in the world as "some...." i dont keep track of his charities or how large they are, or any of the thousands of other charities. What he does with his money & how much is up to him. I guess the larger his charity is, the gooder a person he is??? [8\|] [sm=bowdown.gif]

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 7:09:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx You're right, "good person" is an oversimplification. I should have said that they have more capability to do good works. but it doesnt mean that they will do good works. Someone coming up with a great idea can do a lot more, imo, like the concept of Habitat for Humanity, and micro-loans. Except for a few that do give in a serious way, imo, most very rich people are tightwads and very stingy. I know The Donald gives to a few charities but the guy it a total tightwad nonetheless. When you look at the pitance he gives, he doesnt do that unless he gets several times over in free pr and other benefits back. He is one of the tightest tightwads out there but pretends to be generous cuz its just not good PR to appear to be a rich, uncharitable tightwad real estate developer. [8\|]

Musicmystery -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 7:33:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: he even has some charities ...if you count the largest charity in the world as "some...." i dont keep track of his charities or how large they are, or any of the thousands of other charities. What he does with his money & how much is up to him. I guess the larger his charity is, the gooder a person he is??? [8\|] [sm=bowdown.gif] I see you've joined the "make up what people say instead of responding to what they actually said" club. But you know, who the fuck cares? It's a great charity, and it does a lot of good. Whether Bill is good personally is his own problem. That he and Melinda founded a large charitable foundation--I'm grateful, and appreciate it.

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 8:32:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: he even has some charities ...if you count the largest charity in the world as "some...." i dont keep track of his charities or how large they are, or any of the thousands of other charities. What he does with his money & how much is up to him. I guess the larger his charity is, the gooder a person he is??? [8\|] [sm=bowdown.gif] I see you've joined the "make up what people say instead of responding to what they actually said" club. But you know, who the fuck cares? It's a great charity, and it does a lot of good. Whether Bill is good personally is his own problem. That he and Melinda founded a large charitable foundation--I'm grateful, and appreciate it. you are the one that brought up the size of his charity as some sort of scorecard. And i never said the charity didnt do good, but then lots of other charities do good as well.

Musicmystery -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 8:41:12 AM)
quote: you are the one that brought up the size of his charity as some sort of scorecard. Another invented reading. I said no such thing. YOU went after charity as scorecard. I corrected "some charities" to "the world's largest charity," without further comment. The rest is all you. Including choosing to get your fur up over it. I just passed along the observation.

tj444 -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 8:56:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: you are the one that brought up the size of his charity as some sort of scorecard. Another invented reading. I said no such thing. YOU went after charity as scorecard. I corrected "some charities" to "the world's largest charity," without further comment. The rest is all you. Including choosing to get your fur up over it. I just passed along the observation. no, just because it may be the worlds largest still makes it some charities. CM apparently needs you to "correct" such things, huh? lol

Musicmystery -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 9:03:02 AM)
What is your problem? No, it doesn't "need" me to correct such things. Such corrections are common, however, on a public discussion board, as points of information. People generally don't get their knickers so twisted over such minor matters.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Financial Reality (7/27/2011 1:47:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway But they practice law and they contribute to society. nyuck, nyuck, nyuck Funny guy. Ok...what do attorneys and sperm have in common? Both have only a one in 20,000 chance of ever becoming a human being. There now, let's all laugh at the lawyer joke. They say that 1 out of every 10 in Washington DC are lawyers. You know what the other nine are? Human beings. Isn't that a contradiction of terms? [8D] You have to admit that A: you set up an easy one for me and B: it was pretty good.

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