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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:22:14 AM   
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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:24:01 AM   
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Paying for schools to indoctrinate rather than educate is repugnant.

You are Anders Behrin Breivik, and i claim my five pounds.


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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:28:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		yeh lifes a bitch and the law is the law and thats the way those nasty chips fell.  Likewise with the Rothschild plant Hamilton talking out of both sides of his ass at the same time in the federalist papers.

Well we have today precisely what the "ANTIfederalists predicted.

In substance a monarch with a twist.  well 51 of them.


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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:34:33 AM   
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Paying for schools to indoctrinate rather than educate is repugnant.

You are Anders Behrin Breivik, and i claim my five pounds.



whats the matter does that give your tea a bad flavor?

The nice thing about history from the law standpoint is there leaves little room for bullshit red herrings and fanciful painting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0n8uP4qZIs



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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:45:39 AM   
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Today, we have American people (and the politicians that pander to them) who say the country does not have to pay it's debts, that defaulting on the country's debts is a good thing and not a bad thing, that the country does not need any revenue (the government has scads of cash magically hidden away somewhere and it will appear when the country needs it) and that any and all taxes that do not provide a service to them personally (even though that service provides for their fellow citizens) are an un-fair attack on the sanctity of their wallets.

For example, on a micro level, I live in a Massachusetts town that is considered to have some of the best public schools in our state - and, consequently, high school taxes. There is a segment of the people who live here who either do not have children or do not have children in the public schools and argue that they should not have to pay school taxes because the schools do not personally benefit them.

This type of "me first, screw everybody else" thinking is what is destroying our country.



Lol, Directo, that's not saying much, ***ANY*** public school in New Hampshire is better than any in Massachusetts.
Everyone knows that we need tax revenues to run our government, that's not the point.
The point is that the govt. always wants more and more and more for dubious "programs" that The People don't want. And they want an ever bigger, more *intrusive* government!
And look at the fucked up governor in Massachusetts, Duval Patrick! HE wants "in state tuition rates for illegal aliens!"
So you've got retired people with no kids in public schools but Duval wants them to pay for people who aren't even supposed to be physically present in our country? The people of Massachusetts re-elected this stupid SOB so let them go bankrupt because of him.
Boy, the liberals always have a blind spot when it comes to enforcing our laws especially our immigration laws.
Since when did enforcing our laws become "optional?"

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:45:55 AM   
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(and the politicians that pander to them) who say the country does not have to pay it's debts, that defaulting on the country's debts is a good thing and not a bad thing, that the country does not need any revenue


Name one.


LOLOLOLOL Good one, Willbe.  What an intellectually dishonest thread.  That is what I call the "fraud of liberalism".  No one says we should not pay our debts.  But our country as grown fat with entitlement spending, education spending, spending on all programs for that matter, military adventurism and the time has come for things to change.  If things will ONLY change because of a default....well.....so be it.  These will be difficult times but we are in a death spiral ANYWAY!  So if the change we need does not come then default could be the thing that eventually produces it.

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 9:58:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I told you the exact fact. You're not even disputing it. You just think you're tuned into Washington's thoughts.

He wasn't a delegate at the convention. So he didn't sign it. It works that way.

His assignment as leader of the army was a cover for planning the 9/11 attacks.

Under orders of the King.



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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:04:06 AM   
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LOLOLOLOL Good one, Willbe.  What an intellectually dishonest thread.  That is what I call the "fraud of liberalism".  No one says we should not pay our debts.  But our country as grown fat with entitlement spending, education spending, spending on all programs for that matter, military adventurism and the time has come for things to change.  If things will ONLY change because of a default....well.....so be it.  These will be difficult times but we are in a death spiral ANYWAY!  So if the change we need does not come then default could be the thing that eventually produces it.




Hey entitlements are what is given by the king to the subjects, or in the case of the US by the states or feds to the citizens.  no different.

Bottom line they (da guv) sold these entitlements to get their fucking programs through and now other people are pissed because the people that listened to the guv and invested now have a vested interest in collecting those entitlements.

The party to blame is not the party who was sold snake oil but the party who sold the snake oil.

The system can default and the only thing we will feel is a depression.  Its happened as I said 3 times and no one has been able to tell me when and how.  (probly because its at the highest levels and there is no one to explain it to anyone, it requires a personal cognitive mental exercise that is a lost art now days)


The whole taxing scheme is a fucking pyramid scam!  Everyone knows or should know that.




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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:05:57 AM   
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I live in a Massachusetts town that is considered to have some of the best public schools in our state - and, consequently, high school taxes. There is a segment of the people who live here who either do not have children or do not have children in the public schools and argue that they should not have to pay school taxes because the schools do not personally benefit them.


They would be wrong. Having lived and worked in Massachusetts, where public high schools rank # 2 in the nation, and Florida, I can say the lack of quality public education is apparent in both the workplace and the marketplace.

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:08:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with you that entitlements were created to buy votes.  And now they must end or at least be severely curtailed.

"Novus Ordo Seclorum"  That too is some scary shit, my friend, and part of the problem.

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:11:41 AM   
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I told you the exact fact. You're not even disputing it. You just think you're tuned into Washington's thoughts.

He wasn't a delegate at the convention. So he didn't sign it. It works that way.

His assignment as leader of the army was a cover for planning the 9/11 attacks.

Under orders of the King.






Not only did I dispute it but I destroyed your position entirely as you have no reasonable argument to defend your position and bringing in the sun and moon and every other imaginable argument only proves you know that you went down in flames, but enjoy your delusions anyway.


Oh and btw, any attorney worth a shit can indict a ham sandwich with "facts".

People today are smart enough to realize there is a HUGE difference between a fact and truth.

He was not a member of the delegation made him ineligible to be prez.


So keep spewing facts and I will continue correcting them with truth.

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:14:28 AM   
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No wishy-washy answers now.


Which programs?

How much from each?

Who will those "curtailments" affect?


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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:15:05 AM   
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Not only did I dispute it but I destroyed your position entirely


Really. Where was that.

I pointed out he wasn't a delegate at the convention.

Where did you show he was?

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 10:19:23 AM   
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Not only did I dispute it but I destroyed your position entirely


Really. Where was that.

I pointed out he wasn't a delegate at the convention.

Where did you show he was?


then he was not eligible for office, and that circumvents and does an impass around the fact they had no authority to do ANYTHING beyond amend the articles of confederation in the first place.

Hence the whole CONstitution is bullshit on its face.

the CONstitution took away states power and the 14th took away the peoples power.

In each case it was an UNAUTHORIZED change in government that the "People" took upon themselves to usurp the rights of the "people".

I went over that in the Patrick Henry thread.





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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 12:12:05 PM   
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then he was not eligible for office, and that circumvents and does an impass around the fact they had no authority to do ANYTHING beyond amend the articles of confederation in the first place.

Hence the whole CONstitution is bullshit on its face.

Well, I have read the arguments that you are referencing, and the drafting of the current Constitution was somewhat questionable, as to it's legality. 

Unfortunately for your conclusion, that really doesn't matter, as the ratification by the States made it legal, regardless.

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the CONstitution took away states power and the 14th took away the peoples power.

No to both.  It was the 17th amendment which pretty much destroyed the political balance between the States and the Federal Government, and has been the greatest cause of the loss of the peoples' power and rights in the US.

Firm


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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 12:15:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		then he was not eligible for office, and that circumvents and does an impass around the fact they had no authority to do ANYTHING beyond amend the articles of confederation in the first place.

Nothing could be further from the truth, nothing could be further from the fact, nothing could be further from reality than you are.. 

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 12:20:09 PM   
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I'll assume that you are talking to R0 and not me.

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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 12:24:57 PM   
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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 12:31:46 PM   
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RE: What Commie-Pinko-Socialist-Liberal American Politi... - 7/24/2011 12:31:58 PM   
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no citations?

you are the weakest link, goodbye


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