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Musicmystery -> RE: Raising the age for Social Security? More Class Warfare against poor! (7/27/2011 6:10:06 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Well thats alright "professor" because I never wrote that we need to push granny off of a cliff as you want to pretend in that simplistic little head of yours And I never said you did. You're making up stuff again. You don't have enough to argue otherwise.
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Our spending levels are clearly outrageous and there is a lot of fat that can be cut, that needs to be cut before we can ever consider tax increases. Washington politicians only spend tax increases, they never put them towards the budget deficits, thats how it always works Show us the numbers. Discretionary spending is $520 billion. No amount of fat is going to make those cuts total $1.27 trillion. As for spending, that's the point of a budget--when you consistently leave the unfunded spending in...yes, it gets spent. Taking it out and paying for the rest is how budgets are balanced. It's called mathematics.
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Social Security was never supposed to use tax dollars, Not true...I think you mean income tax/other tax dollars
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its supposed to have a seperate trust fund. For you and O'Bummer to try to use SS to scare folks into ever higher debt ceiling increases is about as low as leftists can go What bullshit. First, I'm doing no such thing. Second, both parties use scare tactics continually. Third, I'd rather scare you into facing fiscal reality instead of pretending it will all go away.
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But since politicians whose appetite for spending is like Michael Moores appetite for cheeseburgers, and have spent that trust fund... something will have to be done. Finally a true statement.
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Like eliminate a few thousand bird counters, and the Department of Education More silly symbolic gestures. Even cutting ALL discretionary spending won't come close to covering the deficit.
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And, and, and
Because our spending levels are unsustainable, and are ever increasing. Obama argued that as Senator, Hillary has recently warned that our levels of debt are a threat to national security So are Republicans. Don't you agree? Or do you think continually adding to an already sky high national debt is fine? I thought you were a conservative.
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Personal responsibility and less government is the answer, its the guiding light. Its the proper philosophy... It is, though, at least at the moment, empty words. Saying that, but following budget policies that allow a trillion to be added to the deficit is completely contradictory. If you're a conservative--wake up!
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Government spending is just like an addictive drug, both for the politicians who use it to buy votes and those who have grown dependent on these bloated budgets of ours And for the voters who buy the "tax cuts will magically pay for this" bull--it hasn't and isn't and isn't going to. It's time to end the fiscal fantasy--and a few token cuts are not going to do it. Mathematics.
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Time for the junkies to go to rehab and for the pushers supplies to be dried up
Agreed. Write your political leaders and tell them to get fiscally responsible.
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Problem is, I didn't say that...I said it's going to take both cuts and tax increases, including cuts/adjustments to the big three.
You're the only who feels "personal responsibility" is a problem-solving policy.
Republicans. It all just happens by magic party.
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