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RE: Did i hear right -- suspending congress' pay - 7/28/2011 5:24:51 AM

MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Who announces they will kill anything that comes out of the house before they even see what it is?? Senate Democrats nobody is faultless.

Because they know enough about it when the house votes on it...to declare that it is DOA. (dead on arrival) Nothing new there. Now it is up to the house to come up with something else. They do not. Instead they go on TV and use other media to lie straight through their teeth only to take their football and go home.

That is not the real world and that real world as we know it may come to a halt...Aug.2.

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RE: Did i hear right -- suspending congress' pay - 7/28/2011 5:37:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Okay, mind you i just heard this on FOX and changed the channel but swore i heard that someone -- didn't catch the name -- has proposed that if they miss the deadline congress will not get paid until such time they come up with a bill due by August 2 and will not be able to recoup those losses after a decision/bill goes through.

Sorry if this is wrong but i swear i just heard this.

Thanks for any clarification.

angel

[whistles....and shakes head] Congress is a co-equal branch of our government. Why would you suspend their pay? Because they want deep cuts? Do you realize that no one has talked about cutting anything? Nothing. Not one fucking dime. No one. Not the republicans and not the democrats. Not one cut.

"IF" there was a plan that not one dime more would be spent than what was spent in 2011, the CBO would announce that the plan cut billions...perhaps even trillions...of dollars. Everything that is in the budget, without any expansion in government whatsoever, is in line to get funded with a 7% increase. Therefore, just spending the same would cause the nit wits in DC to say that they cut 7%. They didn't cut anything...they just didn't increase.

So...is anyone talking about cuts? No. And cuts ten years down the road is such a fallacy. Neither the congress nor the president can bind the future congress to adhere to those cuts. Cuts must be made. If you hear people talking about 1.5 trillion in cuts...there is no "cut" at all. If you start hearing things like "7 trillion in cuts and these are the programs that will be cut and these programs will be eliminated" (which you will not hear, by the way), THEN they will be dealing with "cuts". Don't hold your breath.

As for cuts...yes there are big cuts in Ryan's bill, a cut of some $4.2 trillion...in taxes and oh BTW...raises the debt limit every year until the last and thus his 'great' budget doesn't balance until 2050.

And we do know this much, when grandma must pay a whole lot more towards their medicare (Ryan's bill)...that is a cut in spending on Medicare.

Oh but to remove corporate tax advantages such as to Exxon and GE for two defining examples, oh we can't do that...that's a tax increase. So you begin to see the disingenuousness of the repubs bill.

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