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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 3:20:30 PM

LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think that last bit was kind of rough, LadyC.

It was, but sorry, this steady "oh it is so unfair" gets on my tits, I mean complaining definitely doesn't make a guy more attractive, if anything steady whinging about that there are pro dommes is such a turn off, if it bugs him, he can ignore them, but complaining here about it, they aren't forcing him to session with him or pay with them. A simple "I pass on that" is fine or block and delete but the "Oh I expect that they cater to me for free" - it's not going to fly and it's getting damned old, it's not offering anything else than a complete and utter turn off.

That's like a financial domme complaining that she didn't get her new car, I would have the same reaction and shrug my shoulders and say "That's life - what have you done to earn it?"

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 3:21:21 PM

DarkSteven

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The bad news is you gotta pay the women. The good news is that it's not solely in coin. Making sure they enjoy time with you works too.

If you can hold a conversation with a woman, you'll be surprised at how many women will be attracted to you. Add s sense of humor and some manners, and you're golden.

Women like attention and conversation.

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 3:38:17 PM

LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

The bad news is you gotta pay the women. The good news is that it's not solely in coin. Making sure they enjoy time with you works too.

If you can hold a conversation with a woman, you'll be surprised at how many women will be attracted to you. Add s sense of humor and some manners, and you're golden.

Women like attention and conversation.

I don't think you got to pay, but it doesn't harm if you show that you are willing to pay for a coffee, it's just good manners, I usually let a guy get the first coffee and then buy the 2nd.

As for holding a conversation and treating us like actual human beings and not people who should provide a service without charge, yes, that will go a very long way, a damned longer way than "Oh some charge, they are all horrible so I now charge them because they should pay me or else it's unfair and I have a hissy fit!"

With a guy I used to play a lot with, I also used to go for drinks a lot, when he was temporarily unemployed, I made sure I paid for most of the drinks, brought tobacco back from abroad and made sure that when we rented the venue were we usually played I was there first and could settle the rent. Just because he was a nice guy, if he would have had that big "Oh women are evil because some charge for professional services" - I wouldn't even have bothered playing with him.

When he moved to a part of the country where I seldom get to (he found a job there) I asked a friend who knew people there, contacted a domme there and asked if she could take him under her wing. We liked each other as people as well, he didn't reduce women to fetish providers ad possibly will never do.

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 4:09:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

As for holding a conversation and treating us like actual human beings and not people who should provide a service without charge, yes, that will go a very long way, a damned longer way than "Oh some charge, they are all horrible so I now charge them because they should pay me or else it's unfair and I have a hissy fit!"

You just gave Me a "nn" flashback. LOL.

(If there's a Dominant woman out there who doesn't get the "nn" reference, consider yourself lucky.)

Hey, if somebody out there thinks they can make some change as a male pro sub, give it a shot. Just keep in mind that not every client is going to be those beautiful women that you're hoping they will be. The majority of the time, they are going to be the folks who are paying because nobody wants to let them top them.

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 4:18:32 PM

VaguelyCurious

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FR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4an3rpucSos

There you go.

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 5:06:56 PM

Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I have decided that any Domme requesting my services needs to offer tribute.

Just c-mail for my Paypal account and we can have a great time online.

But only online because I'm still a virgin.

I don't know.....I thought it was kind of funny. I chuckled.

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 6:25:29 PM

shorty21

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just looked up male subs to Female Domme or even Domme heavy Switches.... Maybe 70/30 for male subs and non pro Dommes..... That help???

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 6:37:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I have decided that any Domme requesting my services needs to offer tribute.

Just c-mail for my Paypal account and we can have a great time online.

But only online because I'm still a virgin.

*sigh* Such a dicey subject. Better judgment tells me not to weigh in but CHOMPING AT THE BIT urges me onward. OK...here goes.

Every profile of a Domme that asks for a tribute immediately gets hidden. That means that when i open up collarme, i see maybe 4 or 5 Dommes on in the past 2 hours or so. Slim pickens, that's for sure. Dommes and men should ask themselves the same thing...why do a "session" with a Domme for $200.00 when you can have some 20 year old, hot-as-burning-magnesium go-go girl come to your house for all out sex? Ok...the go-go girl isn't dominating you, that's true, but what is the value of domination without intimacy? Isn't it the love that you have for your Domme that impels you to submit to her?

We are all adults. We all know that there can be sex for sex sake with no intimacy whatsoever. It satisfies an urge and then you go out drinking with the boys..................or the girls as the case may be. But does the same hold true for dominance? Can you really submit to someone who doesn't give a shit about you in any fashion except your cash?

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 6:39:02 PM

LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: shorty21

just looked up male subs to Female Domme or even Domme heavy Switches.... Maybe 70/30 for male subs and non pro Dommes..... That help???

When I do the research on this one, I actually don't include switches. The reason being is that it just gets too complicated. Did you add male switches into your figures, too, or just female switches? If you're not, you're assuming that all switches are only interested in dominating and none would prefer to sub. Did you add male slaves or keep them out of the numbers?

For every time that I've attempted to collect data on numbers here, I randomly pick a day to see how many folks have joined the site in a twenty-four hour period. Each time, there are at least 100 male submissives who join the site on any particular day. For the same period, there are usually about ten Dommes who also sign up. (Numbers based on those in the USA.) That's a pretty big gap. It also doesn't cover how many of those ten Dommes are pro, lifestyle, or both. It doesn't even cover the common complaints (it's really a guy, the person is a scammer, etc.) because I don't read the profiles of the ten.

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 6:46:07 PM

shorty21

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i did a quick search for male to female but i did add up male slaves and subs and even seperately the Women are outnumbered atleast 9 to1 IF they are all REAL non pro Dommes... Thats only a quickie search in my area so numbers arent a hundred percent.... Just trying to kind of bring up a point about the outnumbering...

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 6:52:00 PM

LadyPact

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Rough out there, isn't it?

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RE: Tribute - 7/27/2011 9:33:06 PM

LadyHibiscus

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I did NOT need a NN flashback, kthx!

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RE: Tribute - 7/28/2011 5:03:10 AM

LaTigresse

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Ya.

I get that submissive men are frustrated......but yanno, I don't think it's any different than meeting people in person. You will have a select few guys that have figured it out or by their very nature, are more appealing to the ladies. Then you have a larger number of guys that just haven't figured it out AT ALL. They end up pissing and whining and talking trash about the only women interested in them......all while secretly still trying to score with them.

Personally, I think that SOME kinky men wrongly assume (especially a lot of the men that take to the net) that because they are kinky, the kinky porn turns them on, and because they are online, which SOME people view as being for losers that cannot get a partner the old fashioned way, the women that must be desperate, are going to jump all over them in a way that the women, at the bars or whatever, they meet, don't.

Then, because it isn't as simple as they imagined and because the women on here are not desperate or hard up (especially the HAWT chicks they tend to email) they end up pissing and whining that their selected market actually wants something more than their kinky little fantasies.

Too fucking bad.

What it comes down to, just like anywhere else, is focus on making yourself exceptional.....and you will not have any problem.

Exceptional does not have to have ANYTHING to do with money. There is a young man on here off and on, that IF I had any interest in a male submissive, I would take the time to get to know A LOT better. From what I do know, financially he is certainly no catch, but it is his personality and desire to be pleasing that has always made him shine.

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RE: Tribute - 7/28/2011 6:00:05 AM

LadyHibiscus

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Sharesies, LaT!

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RE: Tribute - 7/28/2011 8:56:52 AM

DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

But does the same hold true for dominance? Can you really submit to someone who doesn't give a shit about you in any fashion except your cash?

I wouldn't call it submission and dominance but topping and bottoming. If you have an itch which is driving you crazy, and the only way you can get it satisfied is to pay for it, then you will.

For some people, the unsatisfied urge for kink is just that strong. People pay to top others when for whatever reason they cannot find a relationship in which they can do this. And they pay to bottom when they cannot find someone who wants to do that to them inside of a relationship, or they aren't available to look for it inside of a relationship.

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RE: Tribute - 7/28/2011 12:42:33 PM

DavidLee44UK

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clicked on this site this am

what greeted me on home page was a domme profile

her pic was funny face was 2 small for body and face was a diff skin colour not drastically but noticable

some dommes on these sites are males wanting a quick round

and the number of 18 yr old blonde dommes from manchester who every shot has a model pose is outstanding

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RE: Tribute - 7/29/2011 2:13:19 AM

MineMineMine

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But you're already taken, my little pigeon pie.

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RE: Tribute - 7/29/2011 3:20:00 AM

CynthiaWVirginia

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I have decided that any Domme requesting my services needs to offer tribute.

Just c-mail for my Paypal account and we can have a great time online.

But only online because I'm still a virgin.

Very funny. You're just blowing off steam cuz of all your mail from money Dommes. (Smart ass.)

quote:

If you can hold a conversation with a woman, you'll be surprised at how many women will be attracted to you. Add s sense of humor and some manners, and you're golden.

(I took that quote from this thread and forgot who said it. Sorry about that.)

Tis true, I found someone who has a sense of humor and some manners and will likely...start vanilla dating him shortly. Yes, he is from CM, and yes, he was one of those pesky thousands of newbie male subs. If he IS the one I have been looking for...then I shall have waited over seven years for him to "discover" that he was into D/s.

Male subs aren't the only ones who have to be patient to get what they want...yes, waiting sucks...searching can be a royal b*tch. Mkay, I will also admit that the odds for male subs look pretty bad online, but that is because we have only one category for male subs...

*Puts on her evil hat, lol*
If only we could separate out most of the "married but cheating" male subs as easily as male subs can eliminate Dommes who have the word tribute posted in their profiles...

Take both of those groups away and I bet the differences in numbers between male subs and Dommes aren't as vast as they seem.

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RE: Tribute - 7/29/2011 11:18:50 AM

DavidLee44UK

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ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I have decided that any Domme requesting my services needs to offer tribute.

Just c-mail for my Paypal account and we can have a great time online.

But only online because I'm still a virgin.

Very funny. You're just blowing off steam cuz of all your mail from money Dommes. (Smart ass.)

quote:

If you can hold a conversation with a woman, you'll be surprised at how many women will be attracted to you. Add s sense of humor and some manners, and you're golden.

(I took that quote from this thread and forgot who said it. Sorry about that.)

Tis true, I found someone who has a sense of humor and some manners and will likely...start vanilla dating him shortly. Yes, he is from CM, and yes, he was one of those pesky thousands of newbie male subs. If he IS the one I have been looking for...then I shall have waited over seven years for him to "discover" that he was into D/s.

Male subs aren't the only ones who have to be patient to get what they want...yes, waiting sucks...searching can be a royal b*tch. Mkay, I will also admit that the odds for male subs look pretty bad online, but that is because we have only one category for male subs...

*Puts on her evil hat, lol*
If only we could separate out most of the "married but cheating" male subs as easily as male subs can eliminate Dommes who have the word tribute posted in their profiles...

Take both of those groups away and I bet the differences in numbers between male subs and Dommes aren't as vast as they seem.

Virgina everyone is no better and no worse than anyother

for me while it is true trolls are not perfect none of us are including egotystical know it alls

and lots the troll threads seem to bait these types

so a great idea is for all the egotystical no it alls to admit to being less than perfect this would cut down on the amount of people trolling

and we can all enjoy this forum with all the false pretense

in fact acdcording to alexa women have been getting less and less on collarme

yet men are coming here more and more

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RE: Tribute - 7/29/2011 11:41:21 AM

LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

*Puts on her evil hat, lol*
If only we could separate out most of the "married but cheating" male subs as easily as male subs can eliminate Dommes who have the word tribute posted in their profiles...

And how about all those guys who want to perform on cam and we should all be delighted to watch them stick things up their behinds, but I guess we should be delighted about those guys, because they say they'll do it for "our pleasure"...

Seriously watching a guy on cam is just not fun, and I'm not sure you could pay me enough to watch, still those "offers" keep coming, I guess instead of block and delete I should just charge something like $100 for 10 minutes and watch them running away screaming how unfair it is, when they wanted to do it for "my pleasure".

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