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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/29/2011 3:33:40 PM

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In the animal kingdom those unable to fend for themselves die and don't become a burden to the larger society.

There are very few "societies" in the animal kingdom.

Conceivable, you may include other primates, but even that is a stretch.

Firm

chimps have an extremely hierarchical societies.

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/29/2011 3:38:03 PM

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No it's not. In the animal kingdom those unable to fend for themselves die and don't become a burden to the larger society. This planet is over-crowded right now because we allow the weakest, sickest and most unhealthy among us to drag the rest of us down. If I were to become sick, incapacitated and/or unable to care for myself I would not want to burden anyone else or to siphon off resources so that I may continue to live a bleak existence. I'd much rather be allowed to die so that resources could be used to fix or help those who afterwards could continue to contribute to society. Quality of life is much more important than quantity.

And I can see your point about education, although in recent times our educational system is failing so while I support education we need to take a good long hard look at how we educate our kids.

Let's switch places and then see how you feel.

There aren't many good things about my codition but it is wonderful for showing the hypocrisy of scum like this "person."

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/29/2011 3:38:39 PM

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Both the Democrats and Republicans, while being two parties, they both have a distinct singular purpose: To transform America from a soverign nation where freedom, both economic and personal, are no longer the modus operandi, to a facist police state. This is the destination, only difference is the path taken to get there.

on this I am in total agreement with you.

Is not only fascist however it is a whole host of "isms" what ever gives more power to them and less to us.

The sovereignty of the people was lost with the creation of the states and the sovereignty of the states was lost with the creation of the fed.

I often asked the question what is better? a 2 party dictatorship or a 1 party dictatorship?

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/29/2011 10:43:02 PM

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In the animal kingdom those unable to fend for themselves die and don't become a burden to the larger society.

There are very few "societies" in the animal kingdom.

Conceivable, you may include other primates, but even that is a stretch.

Ive got to half go with gbs on this one unless its merely a definitional difference. Insects, while not necessarily sentient, certainly organize into societies, and non-contributers are abandoned. OTOH even non-primates show empathy and willingness to sacrifice for their young or injured. That too is a societal structure, but one where gbs' premise that those unable to fend are left to die is incorrect.

Many insects are hives, and not necessarily societies. Bee hives are genetic extensions of one individual, pretty much. I think termite hives are based on a single male/female pairing.

Perhaps the distinction would be better made by saying "human culture" versus "animal groupings".

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/29/2011 10:46:11 PM

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humans are animals too

I do not see the distinction between fundamental instinct and developed or contrived culture as a disqualifying it the use of the term society

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/30/2011 11:33:37 AM

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If I were to become sick, incapacitated and/or unable to care for myself I would not want to burden anyone else or to siphon off resources so that I may continue to live a bleak existence. I'd much rather be allowed to die so that resources could be used to fix or help those who afterwards could continue to contribute to society.

talk is cheap when you are fit and healthy, get ill and I bet your tune changes

Actually I already have DNR in my will and I have let all my friends and family know, through written instructions, that in case of life threatening emergency to not treat or resuscitate. For those of you who don't know, medically speaking, DNR stands for Do Not Resuscitate.

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/30/2011 11:48:59 AM

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gaybottomslave/gbs, you seem to believe that we can/could operate in a fairly strict Capitalistic society, with very limited government intervention?

We all realize how kind, altruistic and thoughtful most corporations are, right?
I bet you don't like unions either?

Here is my short version:

MOST corporations in this country, are owned and run by, people who are selfish, greedy, soulless, evil bastards.

Take a look at all the jobs that have been outsourced, take a look at the greedy insurance companies, take a look at how unions have fought for decent and safe working conditions, lunch breaks, decent wages, etc.

gbs, if corporate America could do so, they would have people working for $2 a day as they do in 3rd world countries, with probably no leave, benefits or healthcare.

Have you really thought of the evil world/ society you desire?
If it ever came to what you want, and pure socialism, I would pick 100% socialism.

You claim not to be on the Right, but you are so far Right, you would need a good GPS system, to find the Middle or the Left.

``If they would rather die,'' said Scrooge, ``they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.

I will not sIt back and let people make the elderly eat dog/cat food, or push grandma off the cliff!

Shame on you gbs! back into the crate!

1. I would say most people are selfish, evil, greedy bastards already--whether they run a corporation or not.

2. There is already more than enough evil/greed/hate/pain (the bad non-BDSM kind) in this world.

3. If you really think I'm "far-right" then you seriously need to go back and re-read my original post in this thread. I hate both parties because neither one has your, mine, or any of us common folk best interests at heart.

4. And I'm not talking about pushing people off a cliff, forcing the elderly to eat cat food. Where in the hell did you get that from?

When dogs, cats, horses and other animals are in pain and can't be saved so that they lead normal healthy lives we, out of compassion, put them down. Humans should be afforded the same option. But no, people are forced to live on in agony.

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/30/2011 11:55:03 AM

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No it's not. In the animal kingdom those unable to fend for themselves die and don't become a burden to the larger society. This planet is over-crowded right now because we allow the weakest, sickest and most unhealthy among us to drag the rest of us down. If I were to become sick, incapacitated and/or unable to care for myself I would not want to burden anyone else or to siphon off resources so that I may continue to live a bleak existence. I'd much rather be allowed to die so that resources could be used to fix or help those who afterwards could continue to contribute to society. Quality of life is much more important than quantity.

And I can see your point about education, although in recent times our educational system is failing so while I support education we need to take a good long hard look at how we educate our kids.

Let's switch places and then see how you feel.

There aren't many good things about my codition but it is wonderful for showing the hypocrisy of scum like this "person."

I will not, nor would I ever, willingly give up my good health. But if something were to happen to me, terminal illness like cancer (or some other fatal disease) the only type of "treatment" I would ask for would be pallative care. That is to manage the symptoms to ease the discomfort and pain but still let the disease take its course.

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RE: Two Parties, Single Purpose - 7/30/2011 12:04:50 PM

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